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  1. #161
    That screenshot lowkey gave me PTSD from all the VoA and Baradin Hold ninjaing. And it started this thing how MS > OS wasn't supported by the GMs, yet it was all the community would do. Eventually led to mandatory personal loot.

    That said, weekly world bosses still exist, and they were still loot pinatas like VoA and BH (except for the last BH boss added). Nice to not have to deal with ninajing and just kill it out in the world.

  2. #162
    I'm having a good time now because like most late-expansion periods there's a casual-friendly catch-up mechanism that means I can log in every day or two and achieve a significant iLevel increase every time, reaching levels of power that seemed utterly unattainable at expansion release. Whether or not this is actually meaningful is irrelevant as long as it FEELS like you're finally getting relatively powerful. I hate the modern mobs-scale-up-faster-than-you-do leveling experience, and next time maybe I'll just wait until a year into the expansion before buying it lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philomene View Post
    WoW is a kind of an amusement park and that’s fine.
    Wow is the ultimate theme-park MMOG experience because at some point Blizzard realized they're in the same business as Disney's park designers and started copying many aspects of that design (I'm sure many days of research at Disney parks were required). In fact, Northrend is a direct copy of the Anaheim Disneyland park layout (though with two main street entryways at the corners rather than one in the middle) and during development had the internal code name "Blizneyland".

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    I could almost like this expansion if it wasn't for the terrible story. As it is I'm having to learn to ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Indeed.

    They never caught up, they left. What's left are those who were a permanent fixture anyway, with ever rising expectations of each other to stay ahead of the curve. And ever more disappointment with those who do not.
    Pretty much why i left the game entirely.

    The game itself I found enjoyable, the community however was growing ever more toxic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    1. You think armor penetration were interesting? No, not really. It just made a mess out of balancing and it didn't make sense to "ignore" your oponent armor. You were wat, stripping your oponent out of armor? "Pretending" it didn't exist?
    2. Reforging was "fun" lol no. There is no useless gear, there was just a mess with stat weights.
    3. Another form of customization that might as well be added as another talent tier.
    4. And you think with talent trees somehow that 3% would be higher? No, people would be just: "ah fuck it, CBA to figure this out lets just copy icy-veins"
    5. That is some serious delusion here, RPG is not about having a bunch of useless spells, its about character progression and playing a ROLE in some story.
    6. That is just your opinion. There is not much RPG games that offer even a 1/3 of what options you have in WoW.
    7. I am not parroting anything, I am actively ignoring anything I don't like. Since pretty much beginning, with the exception of legion where i was forced to do shit to get legendaries.
    8. Stop with your delusion, RPGs are not about enchanting every piece of equipment with one and only enchant you got. The only choice you had was weapon enchants, other were just plain old stat sticks useless, boring and annoying.
    You're only further proving my point. I don't think you know what RPGs are, or you just don't like them.

    Customization and control has been repeatedly removed expansion after expansion. You're only further proving my points so thanks.

    1. Having different stats that do different things allows for different gearing options and much different builds. You can't argue this point other than to try and dismantle ONE stat I used as a fucking example. Pathetic.

    2. There is no useless gear? HAHAHAHA then why are people still keeping gear on that is 20 iLevels below new drops they get? Oh that's right because Blizzard are god awful at designing their own fucking game. Ion the cuck tried to say during BfA beta that they wanted you to equip anything that was an ilevel upgrade. They failed there didn't they? So give me my fucking reforging back and allow me to fix the +20 iLevel upgrade I just got. Oh no we can't because this game isn't a god damn RPG anymore.

    3. Yeah give me another talent tier. Oh wait we can't have character progression because this game isn't an RPG. 40 Levels with no new abilities. 40 levels with 3 talent points. Thanks for proving my point again.

    4. Yeah you can be disingenuous all you want. Even in fucking Classic there is multiple viable builds and weird and wacky ones. Just because they aren't optimal in one fucking setting(raids) doesn't make them not fun or unique in a ROLE PLAYING GAME.

    5. Once again. Flavorful spells like Eyes of the Beast are what makes a Hunter a Hunter is a ROLE PLAYING GAME. Totems on Shamans are what MAKES THEM A SHAMAN. But thanks for agreeing with me again by bringing up character progression - something that BfA has NOTHING of.

    6. Pathetic. Try again.


    Seriously. Half the times you reply you are just agreeing with me and you don't even realize it. Sad really.
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  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by scarecrowz View Post
    You're only further proving my point. I don't think you know what RPGs are, or you just don't like them.
    No, you just have your vision of RPG and it happens I have a different vision. RPG is JUST that:

    A role-playing game (sometimes spelled roleplaying game;[1][2] abbreviated RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting, or through a process of structured decision-making regarding character development.[3] Actions taken within many games succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines.[4]

    All of these elements are in WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    No, you just have your vision of RPG and it happens I have a different vision. RPG is JUST that:

    A role-playing game (sometimes spelled roleplaying game;[1][2] abbreviated RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting, or through a process of structured decision-making regarding character development.[3] Actions taken within many games succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines.[4]

    All of these elements are in WoW.
    Literally everything I listed adds another layer of "structured decision" making. All of which has been gutted and removed over the years.

    Character development - also gone.

    No new abilities for 40 levels. No new talent points for 20 levels.

    Great game design.
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  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by scarecrowz View Post
    Literally everything I listed adds another layer of "structured decision" making. All of which has been gutted and removed over the years.

    Character development - also gone.

    No new abilities for 40 levels. No new talent points for 20 levels.

    Great game design.
    It still exists, as it always existed. You don't need talent tree from PoE to call game RPG. Deal with it. Sometimes less is more.

  9. #169
    I love WoW for what it was, but the handling of the game has what killed my enjoyment of it... namely how Blizzard had gone all out to expand player retention by making everything an arduous task to increase the playtime of players, and using THAT [MUA] as a means of measuring the game's success. They've basically used F2P methods in a P2P game...

    I honestly enjoyed WoD more than Legion, had no enjoyment of Legion, and I stopped a month into Legion 2.0 [BfA]. And to stop myself getting back into WoW I deleted my main that I had since TBC that had 24k achievement points on it, along with alts, and spent my gold capping out on Tokens and B.net balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    It still exists, as it always existed. You don't need talent tree from PoE to call game RPG. Deal with it. Sometimes less is more.
    Since you seem to like quoting definitions:


    more
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    a greater or additional amount or degree.



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    Typing "deal with it" is the definition of losing an argument. Bye dude.
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  11. #171
    most stuff is good.
    But it annoys me to no end that blizzard have structured the game so that its SUPERBIG to do somethign once and then near worthless to do it twiice or more.
    Instead of farming towards a goal you just sit an wait for the goal to come to you in the form of weekly rewards that takes near no effort to get...
    "My brother thinks I'm crazy to play the same game for years. He doesn't understand. I plan to play it for the rest of my life."

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