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    Anyone play Dancer?

    Is it fun class? Is it easy to play? I heard that it's play style in terms of rotation was wack-a-mole and just hit the procs that come up. I don't know it looks cool was just looking for people who play it their opinions on Dancer.

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    It's definately fun to play, specially in dungeons and outdoor (FATES). It's also pretty mobile (3x dash at level 80). Rotation is wack-a-mole & hope for procs, without procs it feels slow, but once RNGesus is on your side with Fan Dance procs & gaining Esprit it feels pretty good. A lot of people say Dancer DPS is on the lower end but unless you're into Savage Raiding this should not really bother you.

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    I do its great, feels very similar to a WoW ret paladin with more ranged. You got your basic damage attacks but they can proc other attacks while building a resource to spend on others with the ability to do party buffs, a shield and low level healing. Just imagine a ret paladin with the movement of a monk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OBM View Post
    Is it fun class? Is it easy to play? I heard that it's play style in terms of rotation was wack-a-mole and just hit the procs that come up. I don't know it looks cool was just looking for people who play it their opinions on Dancer.
    It was my first class to 80 and I really enjoyed the play style, it's incredibly RNG dependent, but with a flat 50% proc rate on all of their abilities, it's not THAT bad.

    It's very active and because of the RNG dependence it's always different, there's no rotation.

    It's damage output is pretty low though, but unless you're pushing Savage content, that shouldn't be a big deal. As long as you're having fun, that's what matters.

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    Yes, the damage is lower, but on the other hand you can buff another DPS with permanent 5% dmg increase, and the whole party 20 seconds every 120 seconds for 5%, apart from raid utility. So even in savage dancer has its uses

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    It's a great class and so much fun to play. It combines the best sides of both Enhancement Shaman and Windwalker Monk from WoW so that the class is as spammy as Enhancement but still has a certain "method" how it should be played like a Windwalker Monk (Combo Strikes style). You have couple of Dances which act as a sub-rotation and must be done in correct order. It also has cooldowns which can be stacked or used every 1 or 2 minutes. 3 charge dash is also a nice utility as are the Raid Defensive CD and self heal.

    The only downside of Dancer is that it has completely replaced the "utility" role which Bard used to have, so that Bard is rather useless now (at least from the group buffing point of view).

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    To add to my previous point:

    It's an absolute blast to play, it has really cool animations. Just be aware of player bias, especially if you want to set foot into savage Pugs. Like in WoW, people tend to got by some superficial meta, where ranged phys dps don't have a place. So if you play alone, be aware that you have 1. relatively long queues for queued content 2. sometimes you will be denied a spot in savage just because of class.

    And to be honest, dancer currently has the lowest dps, even if you factor in all the party buffs (though, of course, a 5% dmg buff at the right time can make the difference between a kill and a wipe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    To add to my previous point:

    It's an absolute blast to play, it has really cool animations. Just be aware of player bias, especially if you want to set foot into savage Pugs. Like in WoW, people tend to got by some superficial meta, where ranged phys dps don't have a place. So if you play alone, be aware that you have 1. relatively long queues for queued content 2. sometimes you will be denied a spot in savage just because of class.

    And to be honest, dancer currently has the lowest dps, even if you factor in all the party buffs (though, of course, a 5% dmg buff at the right time can make the difference between a kill and a wipe)
    Personally i've seen DNC get a lot more demand that some other dps purely because of its buffs, if its a fight where the party is stacking something else to burn past a phase or something that technical step dance buff along with a dance partner buff can be pretty significant. I think i read somewhere it can lead to up 15% faster kills on raid bosses which naturally people want.

    But it also relies on the Dancer knowing when to line up there buffs, not only for the party but combining it with Devilment and that move that activates all your procs at once can be pretty ridiculous if used at the right time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    Personally i've seen DNC get a lot more demand that some other dps purely because of its buffs, if its a fight where the party is stacking something else to burn past a phase or something that technical step dance buff along with a dance partner buff can be pretty significant. I think i read somewhere it can lead to up 15% faster kills on raid bosses which naturally people want.

    But it also relies on the Dancer knowing when to line up there buffs, not only for the party but combining it with Devilment and that move that activates all your procs at once can be pretty ridiculous if used at the right time.
    It's not going to be anywhere near 15% faster. Besides, 15% faster than what? Than an empty raid slot?

    Even with raid buffs DNC ends up at the bottom of the pile in terms of overall DPS done and contributed.

    Numbers aside, it's a pretty fun class. As others have stated, the big issue comes when you get a dry spell of procs and are just stuck mashing 121212 for a while and are doing less damage than your chocobo. (Not really. But it feels like it.)

    You'll get a little spoiled by the mobility and miss it when playing other classes. The step mini-game seems neat at first but gets a little old after a while, although smacking things with a 1500 potency dance is kinda funny. They get the standard raid wide 10% damage mitigation buff which can come in handy. Curing Waltz sounds like a really good bit of utility, but it's so weak and on such a long cooldown that you end up feeling like it might as well not be there most of the time. It more or less seems like it got tacked on because of the DNC abilities in other FF games, but since XIV is so extremely resistant to any form of utility that isn't just damage buffs, it ends up lackluster.

    Speaking of dances, beware of their range. It's bigger than it looks. I've ended up hitting stuff that I really didn't want to.
    Last edited by Bovinity Divinity; 2019-09-05 at 03:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    Personally i've seen DNC get a lot more demand that some other dps purely because of its buffs, if its a fight where the party is stacking something else to burn past a phase or something that technical step dance buff along with a dance partner buff can be pretty significant. I think i read somewhere it can lead to up 15% faster kills on raid bosses which naturally people want.

    But it also relies on the Dancer knowing when to line up there buffs, not only for the party but combining it with Devilment and that move that activates all your procs at once can be pretty ridiculous if used at the right time.
    You stack up your buffs with other buffs, it's not really up to the dancer knowing it.
    Dancer buffs yield about 1500-2000 raid-dps,

    A normal Job with buffs (DRG/MNK/BARD/RDM adds about 500-800 raid-dps depending on raid setup
    A dancer's personal DPS is about 2,5-3,5k DPS behind the stronger jobs at the moment

    Dancers are in a horrible situation right now. It's especially bad whenever their dance partner is not doing well. (mechanics/fail etc.)
    Last edited by KrayZ33; 2019-09-05 at 09:30 PM.

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