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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by phattsao View Post
    I'd rate that about as likely as Hillary Clinton becoming president. The odds of even getting 30 people to 60 in a week are low, let alone getting them all attuned, geared, and farming the fire resist gear. Not to mention even getting the aqual quintessences to summon Ragnaros, assuming they haven't taken that out.

    EDIT - I just checked, you need to complete a quest chain that includes killing trash in MC, killing 4 bosses in MC, and getting honored with the faction before you can even summon Majordomo and Rag. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this guy didn't do any research, he thinks he can just walk into the instance and fight Ragnaros.
    It is theoretically possible. Good luck with the practicalities of it though.

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  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by chronia View Post
    Week one rag is a big goal and will be hard to accomplish, week 2 Rag kills will be a given though.

    I can't remember though, how do the Quintesse's work again, Do you need 8 ppl with the honored rep and the quests done. Or do you only need 1 person and just summon him 8 times. I know the quintesse is unique, but i can't remember if there's a cooldown on obtaining one or not.
    One person is theoreticaly enough, however the thing has a 1 hour cooldown so... get at least 4 peeps farming it.

  4. #244
    No it wont happend. THE fastest Speed leveling speed was 4 days 20 hours, THAT just in game time. That is NOT considering First, The fastest levelers will Not get to much empacted by people after the first Flod gate, BUT, people can be delayed with hours just at release, If your unlucky with drop, and you get hit by the wave of "other" speed levelers, it will set you back HOURS.
    But the biggest problem and why this conversation is a fucking joke. that 4 days 20 hours was in game time. So lets just say the ones going REALLY HARD only gets 4 hours of sleep each night, that still 20 hours(as that 4 days 20 hours is borderline 5 days so i am just rounding up)
    ( And for christ sake, that was a hunter, the fastest leveler, Consider how slow a rogue is compared to this, Unless people do dungeons together the ENTIRE way then many of the slower classes wont have a chance to even do it in less then 6 days)

    We are now at 5 days and 16hours. That leaves people A day and a half to gear up enough To Do molten core.. Actually less, As The raid itself takes times.
    And at this point They wont be geared enough to survive this. And few to no people will even have the proffesions to supply thise people with potions releated to do it. good luck doing ragnarog without a fire protection potion.

    It pointless hype, and anyone who think they can do it, within the first week is an idiot falling to over hyped peacocks Singing their own praise

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Expectation. I don't think they'll even get close to Ragnaros within week 1 but we will see.
    There is no expectation of what can be done. We know you can easily hit 60 comfortably in 4-5days played on pservers and we also know after the closed classic beta its more generous with xp than most of the bigger pservers, specially in dungeons which are easier to do in classic than pservers. Skarm is coming in with a guild of players who are all pserver "neckbeards" so to speak, who have been doing this for a long time. I have no doubts they will have a raid of 58-60s within 5 to 6 days of release with quit a few getting there a bit faster.

    Im not saying a clear week one is a for sure thing but thats the challenge for those players for how they want to play the game.
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  6. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Meh. Just setup healer rotations where some heal and others just rest mana. This method was done back in the day.
    this won't work in full non-optimized green gear.

  7. #247

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsara View Post
    There is no expectation of what can be done. We know you can easily hit 60 comfortably in 4-5days played on pservers and we also know after the closed classic beta its more generous with xp than most of the bigger pservers, specially in dungeons which are easier to do in classic than pservers. Skarm is coming in with a guild of players who are all pserver "neckbeards" so to speak, who have been doing this for a long time. I have no doubts they will have a raid of 58-60s within 5 to 6 days of release with quit a few getting there a bit faster.

    Im not saying a clear week one is a for sure thing but thats the challenge for those players for how they want to play the game.

    Fastest time is 4 days 20 hours played. I'd say 5 days 10 hours is safe as a "average fast" time. You really think he will pull off 19 hours a day for a week with enough people, then get attuned, then clear a raid in gear with no farming time? What world do you live in xD?

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by wargone View Post
    No it wont happend. THE fastest Speed leveling speed was 4 days 20 hours, THAT just in game time. That is NOT considering First, The fastest levelers will Not get to much empacted by people after the first Flod gate, BUT, people can be delayed with hours just at release, If your unlucky with drop, and you get hit by the wave of "other" speed levelers, it will set you back HOURS.
    But the biggest problem and why this conversation is a fucking joke. that 4 days 20 hours was in game time. So lets just say the ones going REALLY HARD only gets 4 hours of sleep each night, that still 20 hours(as that 4 days 20 hours is borderline 5 days so i am just rounding up)
    ( And for christ sake, that was a hunter, the fastest leveler, Consider how slow a rogue is compared to this, Unless people do dungeons together the ENTIRE way then many of the slower classes wont have a chance to even do it in less then 6 days)

    We are now at 5 days and 16hours. That leaves people A day and a half to gear up enough To Do molten core.. Actually less, As The raid itself takes times.
    And at this point They wont be geared enough to survive this. And few to no people will even have the proffesions to supply thise people with potions releated to do it. good luck doing ragnarog without a fire protection potion.

    It pointless hype, and anyone who think they can do it, within the first week is an idiot falling to over hyped peacocks Singing their own praise
    Wrong.

    4 days 20 hours was in actual vanilla. People have spent 15 years optimizing routes and becoming immensely better. Watching Joana's original level record videos is hilarious - clicking abilities etc.

    Also, dungeon grinding is now extremely viable and possibly faster than solo questing. You will see THOUSANDS of players hit 60 in under 4 days played, and very possibly might see an under 3 day played. SOLO levelers are looking at times in the 3 day range. The fastest SOLO time ever on a private server - which is HARDER than live Classic - is under 3 days played.

    Stop using 15 year old data to support the reality of the current time.

    Everyone will have fire pots. They'll have the consumes they need. Week one Rag is happening mate, sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkimpact View Post
    Fastest time is 4 days 20 hours played. I'd say 5 days 10 hours is safe as a "average fast" time. You really think he will pull off 19 hours a day for a week with enough people, then get attuned, then clear a raid in gear with no farming time? What world do you live in xD?
    Wrong. Why does everyone keep quoting the original vanilla record? It's been 15 years. That record is DEAD. Private servers are HARDER so don't use the "lol but private" argument either. Mobs are way harder to kill and people have managed to solo to 60 in under 3 days played, and most good players are just a bit over 3 days. And that isn't counting the fact that dungeon grinding is so good now that it might actually be the new fastest way to level, allowing warriors/rogues/all the typically slow levelers to level extremely fast.

    Ugh why am I even talking to people that literally have no idea what is going on

  9. #249
    omg they are going to kill a 15 year old raid boss the first week shocking.

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by wargone View Post
    No it wont happend. THE fastest Speed leveling speed was 4 days 20 hours, THAT just in game time. That is NOT considering First, The fastest levelers will Not get to much empacted by people after the first Flod gate, BUT, people can be delayed with hours just at release, If your unlucky with drop, and you get hit by the wave of "other" speed levelers, it will set you back HOURS.
    But the biggest problem and why this conversation is a fucking joke. that 4 days 20 hours was in game time. So lets just say the ones going REALLY HARD only gets 4 hours of sleep each night, that still 20 hours(as that 4 days 20 hours is borderline 5 days so i am just rounding up)
    ( And for christ sake, that was a hunter, the fastest leveler, Consider how slow a rogue is compared to this, Unless people do dungeons together the ENTIRE way then many of the slower classes wont have a chance to even do it in less then 6 days)

    We are now at 5 days and 16hours. That leaves people A day and a half to gear up enough To Do molten core.. Actually less, As The raid itself takes times.
    And at this point They wont be geared enough to survive this. And few to no people will even have the proffesions to supply thise people with potions releated to do it. good luck doing ragnarog without a fire protection potion.

    It pointless hype, and anyone who think they can do it, within the first week is an idiot falling to over hyped peacocks Singing their own praise
    That record will be broken. 40 hardcores can clear MC in quest greens. It's totally possible, but they essentially have to play 20 hours a day.

  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxsz View Post
    Wrong.

    4 days 20 hours was in actual vanilla. People have spent 15 years optimizing routes and becoming immensely better. Watching Joana's original level record videos is hilarious - clicking abilities etc.

    Also, dungeon grinding is now extremely viable and possibly faster than solo questing. You will see THOUSANDS of players hit 60 in under 4 days played, and very possibly might see an under 3 day played. SOLO levelers are looking at times in the 3 day range. The fastest SOLO time ever on a private server - which is HARDER than live Classic - is under 3 days played.

    Stop using 15 year old data to support the reality of the current time.

    Everyone will have fire pots. They'll have the consumes they need. Week one Rag is happening mate, sorry
    It funny how you can be so full of yourself, and yet so "it 15 year old data" your right, but that is because Vanila wow is fucking15 year old data.
    So I been watching a few here and there, and even this video in this Thread Kargoz says " we have thise impresive melee cleave teams, and it will take them about 6 days to get to max" Take a look in the video Time 17.39.
    get your head out of your lower parts. I am not sure where you are getting this " IT will only take people 6 hours to get to max level" if you can find any souruce of this less then 3 days, and many under 4 days. All i can say is. He said this team is impresively fast, and he said on the 6th day.. But hey, it great the kids can be excited and blind by the flashy new things coming And i am sure if you told me, you are one of those that will do it in 3 days, i will totaly belive you. You go kid

  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by brbshower View Post
    not gonna happen.edu
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  13. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkimpact View Post
    Fastest time is 4 days 20 hours played. I'd say 5 days 10 hours is safe as a "average fast" time. You really think he will pull off 19 hours a day for a week with enough people, then get attuned, then clear a raid in gear with no farming time? What world do you live in xD?
    The very large portion of the people that are in speed running guilds will do 24 hrs+ day of release and average 18 a day till they are 60 easily. Its actually a normal thing those people do when a new server was opened in the pserver community. Even Joanna said his old record will be smashed when classic opens and his 1-40 time was way faster on the beta than from his old guide. The 4d 20h thing isnt even a talking point anymore.

  14. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by Gsara View Post
    The very large portion of the people that are in speed running guilds will do 24 hrs+ day of release and average 18 a day till they are 60 easily. Its actually a normal thing those people do when a new server was opened in the pserver community. Even Joanna said his old record will be smashed when classic opens and his 1-40 time was way faster on the beta than from his old guide. The 4d 20h thing isnt even a talking point anymore.
    if blizz made leveling quicker then its not real classic and should just be cancelled now.

  15. #255
    Quote Originally Posted by Hinastorm View Post
    That record will be broken. 40 hardcores can clear MC in quest greens. It's totally possible, but they essentially have to play 20 hours a day.
    I admite your positivity and your Strong faith in Blind hype
    Hey want to be real here, I think it could be cool if it was the case.
    But We are talking For MOSt and the fastest people it will take 6 days or so(with sleep ofc) So that leaves 1 day to clear the entire raid. BUT in that time, there will also be a need to Get proffesions up to get Potions. And people will need to spend time to farm firewater, and That rep water to summon rag.
    I totaly belive it will be doable in the first 10 days. but 7 days is to little when it takes 6 just to hit max level.

  16. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by Gsara View Post
    The very large portion of the people that are in speed running guilds will do 24 hrs+ day of release and average 18 a day till they are 60 easily. Its actually a normal thing those people do when a new server was opened in the pserver community. Even Joanna said his old record will be smashed when classic opens and his 1-40 time was way faster on the beta than from his old guide. The 4d 20h thing isnt even a talking point anymore.
    THIS EXACTLY. My guild is an established Pserver guild only shooting for semi hardcore, we are looking at end of week 2, week 3 rag for our goal. We still have 15+ people taking off a week, but not alot of us will be pulling 24h shifts. And some of us only have 3-4 days secured off. All the people making these claims of week one rag are well known in the pserver community and there is little doubt in them.

  17. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by wargone View Post
    It funny how you can be so full of yourself, and yet so "it 15 year old data" your right, but that is because Vanila wow is fucking15 year old data.
    So I been watching a few here and there, and even this video in this Thread Kargoz says " we have thise impresive melee cleave teams, and it will take them about 6 days to get to max" Take a look in the video Time 17.39.
    get your head out of your lower parts. I am not sure where you are getting this " IT will only take people 6 hours to get to max level" if you can find any souruce of this less then 3 days, and many under 4 days. All i can say is. He said this team is impresively fast, and he said on the 6th day.. But hey, it great the kids can be excited and blind by the flashy new things coming And i am sure if you told me, you are one of those that will do it in 3 days, i will totaly belive you. You go kid
    5-6 days real life time, yes. Probably plenty that go faster, still.

    And this all starts on Monday - they have essentially 8 days to get it done. It'll be done. I'll be back here to meme on you endlessly afterwards, but you probably won't reply.

  18. #258
    Ragnaros is going to die from probably several guilds within the first couple of weeks. This isn't exactly a groundbreaking headline here.

  19. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxsz View Post
    5-6 days real life time, yes. Probably plenty that go faster, still.

    And this all starts on Monday - they have essentially 8 days to get it done. It'll be done. I'll be back here to meme on you endlessly afterwards, but you probably won't reply.
    haha, sure man I truly admire your positivity towards this
    I still dont know how, When he says Some of Their fastest 5 mans Teams can do it in 6 days, you pull the number out of your ass " 5-6 days but plenty will do it faster" WHERE do you get thise numbers " plenty will do it faster" because i just told you, some of their fastest teams are 6 days..
    But, I hope i am wrong, it would be pretty F-ing cool to do it that fast

  20. #260
    Quote Originally Posted by wargone View Post
    I admite your positivity and your Strong faith in Blind hype
    Hey want to be real here, I think it could be cool if it was the case.
    But We are talking For MOSt and the fastest people it will take 6 days or so(with sleep ofc) So that leaves 1 day to clear the entire raid. BUT in that time, there will also be a need to Get proffesions up to get Potions. And people will need to spend time to farm firewater, and That rep water to summon rag.
    I totaly belive it will be doable in the first 10 days. but 7 days is to little when it takes 6 just to hit max level.
    But we're not talking about most people, we're talking about Skarm and those around him planning to do this.

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