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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    The actions described on the paragraph above start when the "adventurer", i.e. the PC, arrives in Argus, which would be literally 1 or 2 years ago. Unless those 1 or 2 Azerothian years equal >= 10k Argus years, I don't see the connection.
    She used the Void to help save herself and Turalyon from certain death. That happened 500 years ago, which I got confused for some reason with 1000 years ago. I thought the previous paragraph talked about that but I didn't realize I was looking at the Locus-Walker page and not the Alleria page.

    Still, not a newbie. Someone who has known a thing or two about the Void for the last 500 years or so is not a newbie. I made two stupid mistakes which don't change my original point. It is rather unfair to call Alleria an amateur, don't you think? She is literally the first mortal to successfully defy the shadows' whispers.
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    I would suggest a trial in Pandaria.

    The Pandaren have suffered more than anyone from Azshara's misdeeds!

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    I would suggest a trial in Pandaria.

    The Pandaren have suffered more than anyone from Azshara's misdeeds!
    You mean The Place Which Shall Not Be Named Because We Can't Afford to Piss Off Our Chinese Market?


    And personally, please no. The fortune cookie level bullshit got old REALLY fast.
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    Azshara isn't going to get a "punishment" or even stand trial.


    She's been a villain ever since WC3. This isn't a re-do of Garrosh or even potentially Sylvanas with the idea of "standing trial for crimes" against Azeroth.


    She knew exactly what she was doing. As of 8.2 both factions know what she was doing and trying to do.


    Now if you mean potentially being punished by N'Zoth for failing, perhaps something à la Varimathras being tortured in Antorus.


    But Azshara was supposed to be beaten by us. That was N'Zoth's plan.
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    Punishment? She is the rightful ruler of all elfkind. If anything they should be punished for betraying her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fetus Rex View Post
    Punishment? She is the rightful ruler of all elfkind. If anything they should be punished for betraying her.
    Right and wrong are determined by the winners. And poor fishqueen isn't bound to win. Maybe her husband/master/boss... And that's stretching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fetus Rex View Post
    Punishment? She is the rightful ruler of all elfkind. If anything they should be punished for betraying her.
    It is interesting that she was willing to readopt the elves under her wing as long as they were servile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozz View Post
    It is interesting that she was willing to readopt the elves under her wing as long as they were servile.
    I'm certain it's less about them being elves and more about her just wanting to rule over everything. That's how "Queen" Azshara has been described since the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaceYourself View Post
    I'm certain it's less about them being elves and more about her just wanting to rule over everything. That's how "Queen" Azshara has been described since the beginning.
    But she does have her biases. It would've been interesting if some actually took her up on her offer. Seeing some of the survivors give into the despair of the zone would fit thematically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Right and wrong are determined by the winners. And poor fishqueen isn't bound to win. Maybe her husband/master/boss... And that's stretching.
    Winners merely can present it so. But we players know what's up.
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    It is interesting that she was willing to readopt the elves under her wing as long as they were servile.
    Queen Mother to her lost flock. That's why Azshara is great. Azshara is the best and should lead Elves again or at least her own Allied Race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaceYourself View Post
    I'm certain it's less about them being elves and more about her just wanting to rule over everything. That's how "Queen" Azshara has been described since the beginning.
    Well she does also call non-elf player characters "Her subjects", telling them to "bow to your Queen"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    Torment in N'zoth's BDSM tentacle dungeon, which so far looks to be exactly what's happening.
    Pff, as if she wouldn't enjoy tentacle action with her husbando.

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    Trial in Pandaria. Worked out well last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Well she does also call non-elf player characters "Her subjects", telling them to "bow to your Queen"
    During her fight she said that she is the rightful ruler of entire Azeroth.

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    Pff, as if she wouldn't enjoy tentacle action with her husbando.
    Do you remember her face when he hugged her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fetus Rex View Post
    Queen Mother to her lost flock. That's why Azshara is great. Azshara is the best and should lead Elves again or at least her own Allied Race.
    I think the Highborne should unite under the Horde banner. Azshara can lead the naga but not as a slave to warchief but as A QUEEN, like Talanji.
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    If you are suggesting to take my Night Elfs Shadowmeld away, then please find some pike to run yourself through, tyvm.

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    Also, I don't want any punishments. Either have her and N'Zoth be power couple or have Azshara lead night elves/returned highborne/nightborne since Tyrande (well, writers, actually) is doing a poor job.

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    During her fight she said that she is the rightful ruler of entire Azeroth.

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    Do you remember her face when he hugged her?

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    I think the Highborne should unite under the Horde banner. Azshara can lead the naga but not as a slave to warchief but as A QUEEN, like Talanji.
    To me it just liked like somebody in shock when being revived. Also, I don't see any reason why N'Zoth should be angry at her. She did her job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    This gal's caused a lot of trouble, what do youthink would be the best or most fitting punishment for her?


    I think death would be far too lenient, .. what has Azshara lived for?
    Let her join the Horde, nothing worse then being with those savages, way worse then death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lupinemancer View Post
    Let her join the Horde, nothing worse then being with those savages, way worse then death.
    Yes, you seem sensible when you join but some time later you are husk of your former self and start plotting against you rightful warchief.
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    If you are suggesting to take my Night Elfs Shadowmeld away, then please find some pike to run yourself through, tyvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    This gal's caused a lot of trouble, what do youthink would be the best or most fitting punishment for her?


    I think death would be far too lenient, .. what has Azshara lived for?
    She freaked out pretty badly when Thalyssra and Jaina worked together claiming that they were weaving a spell to prevent her from leaving that room during our battle. I'd figure trapping her in a small room, without any servants to worship her or being able to exert any influence on the world, would be a good punishment. What better for a power mad lunatic who craves attention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulcatcher3 View Post
    Also, I don't want any punishments. Either have her and N'Zoth be power couple or have Azshara lead night elves/returned highborne/nightborne since Tyrande (well, writers, actually) is doing a poor job.
    I want her as Horde naga leader.

    To me it just liked like somebody in shock when being revived. Also, I don't see any reason why N'Zoth should be angry at her. She did her job.
    I was joking about their more private relationship.
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    Make her do the leveling experience of Zuldazar over and over

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