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    Quote Originally Posted by DotEleven View Post
    I'm implying that Lorthemar should've known why the other ones were banished and that if he allowed them to be banished for that reason he had no reason to allow Alleria near it. It's a complete contradiction. Either he had known why the had been exiled and as such shouldn't have allowed Alleria near the Sunwell OR they shouldn't have been exiled in the first place because they had no reason to exile them.
    not relly contradiction, was dumb move, but not contradictory, again, they were doing Research, she was just passing by, he though it would be ok since she would not try anything, you are complaining about his "foolishness" to think it would not cause trouble, even being told it was dangerous by Romanth.

    there is no contradiction just poor writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohwell View Post
    Except it wouldn't be any different for them than NPCs talking about how the PC killed XXX if they don't raid so no it has nothing to do with that. The game is a raiding game. It assumes you raid and that's that.
    When was the last time you played? Because that's not been true for a while now. And it's never been true for expansion transitions.

  3. #923
    On the official forums someone found this:


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ED90LGrXYAANyw_.png - the original link

    Probably the artist himself giving it a model preview appearance since reverse image search pops up nothing on the official sources or on the big dataminers.
    Last edited by Super Dickmann; 2019-09-09 at 06:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    On the official forums someone found this:


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ED90LGrXYAANyw_.png - the original link

    Probably the artist himself giving it a model preview appearance since reverse image search pops up nothing on the official sources or on the big dataminers.
    Texture edit and a scene setup with noggit

  5. #925
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellspawn View Post
    Texture edit and a scene setup with noggit
    Yup, it's my bet as well, but worth sharing for the commitment involved by the poster.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellspawn View Post
    Texture edit and a scene setup with noggit
    So would this mean it's a fan-made thing or official?

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    This image was found by dataminers and was brought to my attention by Stea on Discord.



    https://wow.tools/mv/?buildconfig=d7...2&type=wmo

    Looks like the Cinematic screenshot could well be real. Which means Baine talking to Nathanos and Sylvanas is real. Discuss.

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    The only thing I see are coordinate axes. Other models look fine.

  9. #929
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Also = SoO ended with Alliance getting HWL armor

    We need Horde attacking Stormwind to get Grand Marshal Armor, and potentially a Lion mount. Quote that.
    OK? It was weapons, not armor. And a limited selection, at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeula View Post
    This image was found by dataminers and was brought to my attention by Stea on Discord..
    Is it by dataminers? I see people claiming such, but this is just a freefloating screenshot and the boat doesn't render in the model viewer link provided.

    Update: It's fake. @Hellspawn @Aeula
    https://twitter.com/GFXbySage/status...65070509215745
    Last edited by Super Dickmann; 2019-09-09 at 09:28 AM.
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  11. #931
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeula View Post
    Bolvar eventually appears and starts killing Horde leaders – first to go is Lor'themar. Bolvar will then side with Taelia and the Alliance. Sylvanas will shoot Genn in response, prompting the intermission.
    >During the intermission, all of the Horde leaders will rejoin Sylvanas. Genn dies, and Anduin and Jaina declare war on the Horde. The final fight begins.
    To me this sequence just does not make sense at all. Just too much derp for a single scene.
    What are Bolvar's motives? Why would Alliance accept Bolvar's help? Why would Horde rejoin Sylvanas over Bolvar killing Lor'themar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    not relly contradiction, was dumb move, but not contradictory, again, they were doing Research, she was just passing by, he though it would be ok since she would not try anything, you are complaining about his "foolishness" to think it would not cause trouble, even being told it was dangerous by Romanth.

    there is no contradiction just poor writing.
    It is contradictory.

    They were just doing research. Nowhere near the Sunwell and were banished because "the void is a threat to the Sunwell" she's literally immersed in it and "Nope, no problem". It absolutely is a contradiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gleepot View Post
    What at all about it is "cringey" and awful? What about ANY of BFA is that?
    Sylvanus being the Mastermind evil cartoon villain that can outmanoeuvre both horde and alliance, and magically attack the hugest human kingdom out of thin air without having any presence nearby whatsoever? You are seriously asking me what in BFA look like that? Teldrassil / Undercity shit show rings a bell?

    This crap post is really up to pair with the lore of BFA so far, so it doesn't surprise me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerbill Society View Post
    Sylvanus being the Mastermind evil cartoon that can outmanoeuvre both horde and alliance, and magically attack the hugest human kingdom out of thin air without having any presence nearby whatsoever? You are seriously asking me what I'm BFA look like that? Teldrassil / Undercity shit show rings a bell?
    Pretty much.

    Sylvanas: Lost her entire fleet in 8.1.5-8.2.

    Also Sylvanas: Can somehow invade Stormwind by sea (Stormwind being on the other side of the ocean).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebra View Post
    Pretty much.

    Sylvanas: Lost her entire fleet in 8.1.5-8.2.

    Also Sylvanas: Can somehow invade Stormwind by sea (Stormwind being on the other side of the ocean).
    Exactly, and Alliance have the hugest fleet of kultiras, literally in the middle of her path, and nobody saw it coming.

    Teldrassil 2.0 where she basically made a decoy with azerite in Silithus... And torched nelfs because "everybody" was too busy at Silithus lol.

    If this is truth, just give up on the writers they are clueless.


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  16. #936
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebra View Post
    Pretty much.

    Sylvanas: Lost her entire fleet in 8.1.5-8.2.

    Also Sylvanas: Can somehow invade Stormwind by sea (Stormwind being on the other side of the ocean).
    Having an inferior fleet at the start of BfA didn't stop the Alliance from invading Lordaeron by sea. Even though by Saurfang's own estimate the Horde's superior fleet still wasn't large enough to transport an army large enough for a siege, which means the same should have applied even harder to the Alliance one. And using the fleet as an argument against this leak makes even less sense because as the picture shows the leak is explicitly about Sylvanas getting a new fleet, likely from Helya given the ship models.
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  17. #937
    Quote Originally Posted by Beerbill Society View Post
    Exactly, and Alliance have the hugest fleet of kultiras, literally in the middle of her path, and nobody saw it coming.

    Teldrassil 2.0 where she basically made a decoy with azerite in Silithus... And torched nelfs because "everybody" was too busy at Silithus lol.

    If this is truth, just give up on the writers they are clueless.
    It's not true though, don't worry. N'Zoth is very clearly set up as the endgame of BfA, not the Shadowlands.

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    Heh. Came here because someone sent me a screenshot of that ship in the model viewer. That sure got tracked down and extinguished fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    Having an inferior fleet at the start of BfA didn't stop the Alliance from invading Lordaeron by sea. Even though by Saurfang's own estimate the Horde's superior fleet still wasn't large enough to transport an army large enough for a siege, which means the same should have applied even harder to the Alliance one. And using the fleet as an argument against this leak makes even less sense because as the picture shows the leak is explicitly about Sylvanas getting a new fleet, likely from Helya given the ship models.
    Lol wut? The horde's fleet is on the other side of the world in Org the Alliances is in Stormwind not hard to see how they would get there first. In no way whatsoever would it apply harder to the alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    Is it by dataminers? I see people claiming such, but this is just a freefloating screenshot and the boat doesn't render in the model viewer link provided.

    Update: It's fake. @Hellspawn @Aeula
    https://twitter.com/GFXbySage/status...65070509215745
    Bah, I'll remove it from the OP then.

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