fox news now part of resistence?

[Ghostpanther]

The only shows on Fox that are Trump Shills are Fox and Friends and Hannity. Laura Ingram is also pretty biased but I think she’s fired.

Shep Smith
Chris Wallace
Neil Cavuto
Tucker Carlson
Shannon Breem
Martha Mcallan

Have all taken anti trump positions

No she is not. Where the hell did you get that information?

[Felya]

No she is not. Where the hell did you get that information?

It’s a fair assumption, due to the reaction she got for attacking a Parkland survivor:

Advertisers – including TripAdvisor, Nestle, Wayfair and Hulu – are dumping Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/29/trip...-activist.html

[Dontrike]

Tucker Carlson

Have all taken anti trump positions

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In what dumbass reality do you think this is true?

[breslin]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In what dumbass reality do you think this is true?

I watch Tucker all the time, you probably dont

[mvaliz]

so i have a question, is it really that everyone is too far left except trump? or has the overton window gotten so far right that someone who is conservative like neil cavuto, or BBCs andrew niel are now considered "SJWs" for having basic principles?

I've said this numerous times since 2016 - the current state of politics is not "Left vs Right" or "Conservative vs Liberal" or "Democrats vs Republicans"

It's "Liberals, Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives, independents and non-voters vs the Alt-Right". Dumbass Dump (and FOX news) has created an angry violent mob that views anybody who doesn't worship the word of the God/King Dump as a "Liberal lefty" and part of some fictional "Liberal media agenda".

Having said that, if FOX news is being dragged down by the very Frankenstein monsters they created - than at least one tiny bit of justice against them is being served.

[Wyrt]

I watch Tucker all the time, you probably dont

This explains everything.

[Yetanothernewbie]

I watch Tucker all the time, you probably dont

That is not a point in your favour.

[Kokolums]

on a side note, it seems like neoconservatives are probably the best people i see taking on trump, harder than actual democrats most of the time

Neocons (and most on the left) despise Trump because Trump refuses to fight wars. There's an antiwar faction on the left but it is small.

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To be fair, it does to Trump.

No it doesn't. That is just Trump's negotiating tactic. Whether it is with individuals in the press, people in his own administration, or foreign nations, he takes it to 9000 as part of his negotiating. He believes in asking for way too much and then scaling back from that as part of a "compromise".

We see this in video games all the time. Blizzard does it. They overtune new content, then slowly nerf it. They do that to control the mindset of the playerbase. The players feel like they are getting something, when in reality Blizzard is just retuning the content to where they wanted it from the start. If they started out properly tuned, players would still demand nerfs but that would result in an undertune. The fix is to overtune and then slowly bring it to normal tuning.

Trump fully knows he is asking for too much at the start. He plans on scaling back to control the mindset of people he is negotiating with. Scaling back puts them in a friendlier posture. His opponents think they are getting something when Trump is just getting everything he wanted.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Neocons (and most on the left) despise Trump because Trump refuses to fight wars. There's an antiwar faction on the left but it is small.

You seem to have forgotten all of the times Trump wanted to "nuke them all" or all the leaks that came out of the white house where mattis and kelly talked Trump out of sending aggressive forces into other countries. Trump's administration isn't anti-war because Trump himself is, Trump's administration hasn't gone to war because every single person around him knows what a giant pile of garbage Trump's ideas were, and talked him out of them.

[Dontrike]

[video=youtube;3cvbKdij6vE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cvbKdij6vE[/vieo]

I watch Tucker all the time, you probably dont

Oh so he's anti-Trump because the one time he said a "what if" about Trump purposefully being stupid, therefore still supporting Trump and only adding to the whole "47D Chess" bullshit that Trumpsters like to pull.

Yeah, you're going to need something better, like Cucker there actually saying Trump is an idiot or something like that.

Also, no, I don't watch Cucker nor any of their opinion mouthpieces that is 75% of that "news" channel.

[ringpriest]

No it doesn't. That is just Trump's negotiating tactic. Whether it is with individuals in the press, people in his own administration, or foreign nations, he takes it to 9000 as part of his negotiating. He believes in asking for way too much and then scaling back from that as part of a "compromise".

We see this in video games all the time. Blizzard does it. They overtune new content, then slowly nerf it. They do that to control the mindset of the playerbase. The players feel like they are getting something, when in reality Blizzard is just retuning the content to where they wanted it from the start. If they started out properly tuned, players would still demand nerfs but that would result in an undertune. The fix is to overtune and then slowly bring it to normal tuning.

Trump fully knows he is asking for too much at the start. He plans on scaling back to control the mindset of people he is negotiating with. Scaling back puts them in a friendlier posture. His opponents think they are getting something when Trump is just getting everything he wanted.

This is the way a child negotiates while playing Monopoly - it's not how business (diplomatic or financial) is actually conducted in the real world (outside of some testosterone-poisoned cliques involving parts of America's grossly nepotistic ruling class and its (often even worse) foreign equivalents (<cough> the Saudi dictatorship, for one example)), and it doesn't work; if you want examples, look at Trump's history to date as a negotiator, which has produced nothing of positive note for the United States.

[Dontrike]

This is the way a child negotiates while playing Monopoly - it's not how business (diplomatic or financial) is actually conducted in the real world (outside of some testosterone-poisoned cliques involving parts of America's grossly nepotistic ruling class and its (often even worse) foreign equivalents (<cough> the Saudi dictatorship, for one example)), and it doesn't work; if you want examples, look at Trump's history to date as a negotiator, which has produced nothing of positive note for the United States.

Are you saying that one piece of paper he signed with North Korea that didn't do anything wasn't a historic moment? It's the first time two leaders of nations signed a piece of used toilet paper!

[breslin]

Oh so he's anti-Trump because the one time he said a "what if" about Trump purposefully being stupid, therefore still supporting Trump and only adding to the whole "47D Chess" bullshit that Trumpsters like to pull.

Yeah, you're going to need something better, like Cucker there actually saying Trump is an idiot or something like that.

Also, no, I don't watch Cucker nor any of their opinion mouthpieces that is 75% of that "news" channel.

If you don't watch him, you can't really have an informed opinion

[Machismo]

Fox is still a shill for Trump. This is just a game to pretend to be "fair and balanced" when they have been in the bag for Trump and the GOP from the beginning.

That's literally why the network exists.

[Dontrike]

If you don't watch him, you can't really have an informed opinion

You're right, I don't have a slew of history seeing him make a complete fool of himself as he tries sucking orange cock.

[Draco-Onis]

To be fair, it does to Trump.

Luckily for them Trump has the memory of a goldfish all he cares about is the latest praise.

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Neocons (and most on the left) despise Trump because Trump refuses to fight wars. There's an antiwar faction on the left but it is small

Do John Bolton and Mike Pompeo not exist? Trump's cabinet is full of warhawks and the left being pro war? this a joke?

[Mihalik]

Fox's gradual turn on Trump is rooted in the fact that the economy is going down the shitter. The writing is on the wall and big businesses are really starting to bleed money. Which to me is ironic as fuck, while big business might have not wanted a trade war, all the other shit that is contributing to the coming recession, like the explosive deficit, the propping up of dead industries, the attacks on emerging industries etc they were all okay with that shit.

It's also somewhat of a lame attempt to wash their hands of the 2016-2020 period and when shit hits the fan they can replay some these clips and go - Look we were critical of him.

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Neocons (and most on the left) despise Trump because Trump refuses to fight wars. There's an antiwar faction on the left but it is small.

Dude. You lie so much that if lies would have mass your lies would have already collapsed onto themselves to form a singularity, creating a black hole.

The only opposition that ever comes to war is from the left.

It wasn't Republicans protesting the Iraq War. It isn't Republicans trying to salvage in the Iran deal to avoid war.

It's never the left who waves flags whenever we bomb some country that we can't point at on a map.

You lie so much it's amazing.

Anti war democrats in the running right now include people like Sanders, Gabbard and Warren.

Republicans never vote against any wars ever. The usual right wing complaints about war is not that we are having them, but that we aren't being violent and forceful enough.

The only Republicans who vote against wars with any consistency are libertarians, specifically Rand and Ron Paul back in his day.

Jesus fuck man. How can you lie so much?

[Breccia]

Fox's gradual turn on Trump is rooted in the fact that the economy is going down the shitter.

There may be some truth to that. It's already accepted that the Koch brothers loved them some FOX News. And they definitely loved some corporate oil money. And they had been turning from Trump for a while. FOX News was around before Trump when they were doing things like citing Obama's death panels. They probably want to be around after Trump, too.

[Felya]

Jesus fuck man. How can you lie so much?

It’s not lying, but the effect of Trump removing Obama’s reporting regulations on drone strikes. He might not know that Trump has increased drone warfare, because Trump made that more difficult to know:

Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama’s numbers
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/20...bama-s-numbers

As of January of this year, U.S. drone strikes fighting ISIS in Iraq and Syria have killed at least 1,257 civilians, according to the Pentagon, and a monitoring group, Airwars, estimates the number to be as great as 7,500.

That you might not be aware of what should be a startling and deeply troubling escalation in unaccountable remote-control warfare by the U.S. is both by design and default.

For one, the Obama administration paved the way for popularizing and normalizing drone wars, which also included the extrajudicial killing of U.S. citizens, first by hiding it, then by begrudgingly acknowledging it, and then by pretending to meaningfully constrain it.

Obama eventually put in place arcane requirements to issue public reports on civilian death tolls (but just in certain military theaters), to limit targets to high-level militants (again, in certain battlefields), and require interagency approval (also only for certain targets).

Trump has peeled back all of those requirements because, well, he can. We now know more than we did about U.S. drone wars when Obama first took office, but less than when he left.

This means @Kokolums isn’t lying, but expressing a perspective that results from removing even “arcane” oversight and reporting. In comparison to Obama, as an example, drone strikes from Trump have drastically increased, but military reporting on it, has decreased. Causing both, an increased volume of victims of drone strikes, while also decreasing public awareness there of... as in, the post that seems like lying.

[Mormolyce]

I mean it's basically a cult, mild criticism = excommunication.