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  1. #461
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    It's all gear, numbers and class, there's no real skill involved in random BGs.
    The only argument i have against you is that (at least for mage) there seems to be some skill involved when watching professional players play.

    Examples from Xaryu:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWHzb_WhJI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8678CssUkdA&t=0s

    Incredible videos, seeing skill involved.

    Ofcourse this could only be the case for mages...i have no idea how it is for other classes.

  2. #462
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    What's fun about it?
    I think that you already had answers to this question a few thousand times in this forum. If you don't find any of the reasons given fun, maybe it's just, you know, that you have different tastes ?

  3. #463
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estravolt View Post
    It will take a deep dive in a month or so, due to lack of endgame outside raids
    Omg, that is what is so good with classic, u don't have to do everything all the time. You can help friends, level a alt and get other professions no them, grind money in different ways, go dungeons for fun, pvp out in the wild, do professions on main, explore the hidden areas in the world by walljumping and be social.

    I am so glad there is no titanforging, multiple levels of same dungeon, multiple mode on raids, no artifact leveling.

    Gotta love Classic Wow.

  4. #464
    Quote Originally Posted by Akka View Post
    I think that you already had answers to this question a few thousand times in this forum. If you don't find any of the reasons given fun, maybe it's just, you know, that you have different tastes ?
    I've had one answer, and that was they find it fun to be in a social heriachy. Which is confusingly at odds with the last thousand years of our history but hay hi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    The only argument i have against you is that (at least for mage) there seems to be some skill involved when watching professional players play.

    Examples from Xaryu:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWHzb_WhJI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8678CssUkdA&t=0s

    Incredible videos, seeing skill involved.

    Ofcourse this could only be the case for mages...i have no idea how it is for other classes.
    That's not incredible skill... He just ran away drinking, waited till the priests went oom on his frost shield and then beat them.

    Also most of them were lower level than him.

    I'll give him points for the click bait title though.

  5. #465
    Quote Originally Posted by Magicon View Post
    Omg, that is what is so good with classic, u don't have to do everything all the time. You can help friends, level a alt and get other professions no them, grind money in different ways, go dungeons for fun, pvp out in the wild, do professions on main, explore the hidden areas in the world by walljumping and be social.

    I am so glad there is no titanforging, multiple levels of same dungeon, multiple mode on raids, no artifact leveling.

    Gotta love Classic Wow.
    So nothing you cant do in retail

  6. #466
    Quote Originally Posted by Estravolt View Post
    It will take a deep dive in a month or so, due to lack of endgame outside raids
    It highly depends on when BGs and the honor system is added, I think it’s time for it already on my realm.
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  7. #467
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingbear_grimbatol View Post
    It highly depends on when BGs and the honor system is added, I think it’s time for it already on my realm.
    Honor is coming in a few months Id wager, but im scared bgs are coming next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingbear_grimbatol View Post
    It highly depends on when BGs and the honor system is added, I think it’s time for it already on my realm.
    Honor system is phase 2, (two out of three) battlegrounds are phase 3... which is going to be pretty weird, as honor system on its' own will be rather difficult to rank in. Not to mention it doesn't offer any new gameplay, until WSG/AV finally appear months later (or however long it's going to take). It's possible that some people will adapt the "play the patch" mentality from retail, unless the part they really care about is coming in the specific phase.

  9. #469
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    And how many people is that appealing to? Especially when the number of people that are "nostalgic for killing zhevras in the barrens" is not an increasing number?
    Why would you appeal to the same audience that retail/BFA is appealing to? Just because people want diet coke doesn't mean you change the formula for coca cola, right? You want multiple products for multiple audiences. I also don't think every new kid on the block fancies how the current games are.

  10. #470
    Quote Originally Posted by Magicon View Post
    Omg, that is what is so good with classic, u don't have to do everything all the time. You can help friends, level a alt and get other professions no them, grind money in different ways, go dungeons for fun, pvp out in the wild, do professions on main, explore the hidden areas in the world by walljumping and be social.

    I am so glad there is no titanforging, multiple levels of same dungeon, multiple mode on raids, no artifact leveling.

    Gotta love Classic Wow.
    so exackly the same s..t which you can do in retail

    omg classic is real deal -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estravolt View Post
    Honor is coming in a few months Id wager, but im scared bgs are coming next year
    well duh. ofc p2 wont come sooner then january / february - because november will be 8.2.5 release and they want people there. Then april / may 8.3 and luly p3 which they will rideo n till october/novemeber release 9.0

    here you go constant "content" and no whining about nothing to do in WoW

  11. #471
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    That's not incredible skill... He just ran away drinking, waited till the priests went oom on his frost shield and then beat them.

    Also most of them were lower level than him.

    I'll give him points for the click bait title though.
    Thats the second video, yeah, i admit i turned off the video at that point. Was just resets.
    But you see several demonstrations of skill on those videos.

    Arcane explosion to push back casts.
    Wanding to push back the frost bolt prevented xaryu from shattering combo.
    He tells his thought process on entire video and it shows "some" if not "a lot" of skill.

  12. #472
    Yes. I've just finished Duskwood, and can feel my interest in the game waning. There's a big lack of interesting zones outside the opening half. Duskwood is fairly unique in that it's memorable, and has a coherent story and conclusion. From here there's only Hemet and his hunting quests to look forward to.

    It's the quests that really mar Classic. The gameplay isn't that much different (only that you can't just pull whatever you want), but the quests are pure grinding guidelines.

  13. #473
    Most people who predicted that Classic would have a huge decline put that time at around November. (including me)

    We are barely even at the 1 month mark now. Why do we even have this thread? People are still leveling, ofc they are still invested.
    The lack of any form of end-game haven't yet hit the majority of players.

  14. #474
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmist View Post
    Yes. I've just finished Duskwood, and can feel my interest in the game waning. There's a big lack of interesting zones outside the opening half. Duskwood is fairly unique in that it's memorable, and has a coherent story and conclusion. From here there's only Hemet and his hunting quests to look forward to.

    It's the quests that really mar Classic. The gameplay isn't that much different (only that you can't just pull whatever you want), but the quests are pure grinding guidelines.
    Yes, the freshness of leveling faded away already for me. Same here.

    Specially since leveling in the world is only possible at off hours.
    So basically, i quest at off hours...and spam dungeons on rush hour.

    Im loving the game though and ill push till the end

  15. #475
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Thats the second video, yeah, i admit i turned off the video at that point. Was just resets.
    But you see several demonstrations of skill on those videos.

    Arcane explosion to push back casts.
    Wanding to push back the frost bolt prevented xaryu from shattering combo.
    He tells his thought process on entire video and it shows "some" if not "a lot" of skill.
    He's making it up to sound like it was more in depth thought than it was, I do exactly the same when I take wickets at cricket or my outside odds horse comes in, you bullshit to make it sound like you're 1000 iq'ing something when in reality any one in the know knows it was a few happy coincidences. And the general knowledge that priests have shitty mana.

    For a kick start Wanding to push a cast outside shatter has to be coincidence as its incredibly un reliable with latency and classics wonky ass spell batching.

    He ran away, spammed frost bolt and drank whilst the priests went oom, sums up both vids.

  16. #476
    Already noticing less people online. People who came back for classic, on my friendlist, have left again.

  17. #477
    once people realised how shit the grind is to 60, they leave.

    Not rocket science.
    Oceanic spriest, thanks blizz for giving us aus servers. 9/9 mythic.

  18. #478
    Quote Originally Posted by brt2pp View Post
    yes, i start loosing intrest and i haven't even reached lvl 60, i know many people does to, most people i was in guild are now offline, only 2 others remained, i doubt many people that started playing 2 weeks ago are still playing
    I joined one of the first guilds created after the servers went live. We regularly have over 100 people online, maybe you should find a new guild

  19. #479
    Quote Originally Posted by Nite92 View Post
    It will take some time until you can 25man Rag except maybe some top end guilds.
    From what I can tell after our first kill, the healing requirement should not be a lot less with 25man - you have less inc. dmg but also less healers. So if people did maintain a proper spread during a 40man pull, it should be quite similar to a 25man pull. But at a 25man pull, each death counts way more and you have almost double the fight length. Unless you got some pretty decent gear from MC i doubt you'd be able to pull it off, if you are not one of top end guilds.

    Then you have to increase your roster, let's say to 60 instead of 50. So during the time you 40man the raid, the loot gets spread even thinner. And lastly, this is probably a MC/Ony only thing - so at BWL you end up with a too large roster and a lot of effort for a bit more loot.


    So as you can see, I have already used my head - I just thought you'd use yours to think further than "2x the loot = better". And to be exact is 2x the loot - but not 2x the useful loot - because youll be distributing x pieces of loot to 25 inteast of 40 people you will discover that less loot is useful. So I really doubt this to be worth it if you cannot pull it of really fast AND have a little to larger roster anyways.
    Oh you suddenly changed topic to difficulty, before it was just about what to do with people who can't make it to this 25-30 cut. They could very well do the easier raids with 2 smallers groups, maybe grabbing some friends&family to fill both a bit. I wouldn't be surprised to see guilds like Apes do something like this to gear up more efficiently. Then again they also have like 20 MC & Onyxia resets before new content arrives so there really isn't much need for that.

    Of course this is really only useful if your primary raid roster actually has that 50-60 people.

  20. #480
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    I've had one answer, and that was they find it fun to be in a social heriachy. Which is confusingly at odds with the last thousand years of our history but hay hi
    Well, if the only post you read in this forum is the one of the previous poster, then I have a good news for you : there is an entire forum filled with threads of which many of them are mostly devoted to explain what people like in the game.
    Good reading !

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