Can you get into legal trouble for games like Senran Kagura now?

[Seranthor]

Just because someone likes that stuff doesn't mean anything and it doesn't mean he/she should be watched. Like you have been told 100 times, as long as it's not real then it's fine.

but but but... we have to watch them so they dont do 'things'... what those 'things' are has never been identified, but 'things' apparently are bad.

[YUPPIE]

Just because someone likes that stuff doesn't mean anything and it doesn't mean he/she should be watched. Like you have been told 100 times, as long as it's not real then it's fine.

If it were fine, none of these regulations and policies would or should exist past the age rating given to the product. But they do exist.

I'm going to reiterate one last time: When you say something is fictional and therefore harmless in any and all respects, that legitimately means there are no bounds. No matter how despicable, if it's just a drawing no one can do anything if someone is enjoying something 101% illegal in real form if it's something represented in a video game or cartoon. And companies and organizations just can't and won't stand for that because it's too much of a moral compromise anyway.

[oplawlz]

If it were fine, none of these regulations and policies would or should exist past the age rating given to the product. But they do exist.

I'm going to reiterate one last time: When you say something is fictional and therefore harmless in any and all respects, that legitimately means there are no bounds. No matter how despicable, if it's just a drawing no one can do anything if someone is enjoying something 101% illegal in real form if it's something represented in a video game or cartoon. And companies and organizations just can't and won't stand for that because it's too much of a moral compromise anyway.

The only reason laws exist regarding fictional porn is that it would create a loophole for sickos to create porn from real abuse by putting an animation layer over it. Study after study after study has shown that, like violent video games, fictional stories about sex do not incite people to criminal acts.

[Seranthor]

If it were fine, none of these regulations and policies would or should exist past the age rating given to the product. But they do exist.

I'm going to reiterate one last time: When you say something is fictional and therefore harmless in any and all respects, that legitimately means there are no bounds. No matter how despicable, if it's just a drawing no one can do anything if someone is enjoying something 101% illegal in real form if it's something represented in a video game or cartoon. And companies and organizations just can't and won't stand for that because it's too much of a moral compromise anyway.

Oh please, save the 'moral compromise' bullshit for someone else. The US and most western nations have zero problems sexualizing our children for money. Open your eyes. Look at the clothing, the music, what we allow them to see on the internet. What ever makes companies money.

[Blade Wolf]

Oh please, save the 'moral compromise' bullshit for someone else. The US and most western nations have zero problems sexualizing our children for money. Open your eyes. Look at the clothing, the music, what we allow them to see on the internet. What ever makes companies money.

If it doesn't turn into a PR disaster in any way then they don't care.

[YUPPIE]

Oh please, save the 'moral compromise' bullshit for someone else. The US and most western nations have zero problems sexualizing our children for money. Open your eyes. Look at the clothing, the music, what we allow them to see on the internet. What ever makes companies money.

Then why do they make such a big deal over shit like DOA and Senran Kagura? Anime in general? Speaking from a POV of trying to believe what you wrote is true.

[Rendark]

If it were fine, none of these regulations and policies would or should exist past the age rating given to the product. But they do exist.

I'm going to reiterate one last time: When you say something is fictional and therefore harmless in any and all respects, that legitimately means there are no bounds. No matter how despicable, if it's just a drawing no one can do anything if someone is enjoying something 101% illegal in real form if it's something represented in a video game or cartoon. And companies and organizations just can't and won't stand for that because it's too much of a moral compromise anyway.

If it is not real, no matter what it is, then it doesn't matter. If someone likes to play games of 5 year old lolis getting fucked then that should't be a crime because it's not real. People need to stop wasting time going after some guy jacking off to hentai and start getting people hurting real people.

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Then why do they make such a big deal over shit like DOA and Senran Kagura? Anime in general? Speaking from a POV of trying to believe what you wrote is true.

Because they use that as a scapegoat so people don't see the real problem.

[YUPPIE]

If it is not real, no matter what it is, then it doesn't matter. If someone likes to play games of 5 year old lolis getting fucked then that should't be a crime because it's not real. People need to stop wasting time going after some guy jacking off to hentai and start getting people hurting real people.

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Because they use that as a scapegoat so people don't see the real problem.

See, I *presume* the reason the law goes after people jacking off to hentai or what you described is because it's a great lead. If someone wanks to loli hentai or whatever other sick shit like anime gore, isn't it so likely he's also got the real shit? Because it's documented they always do. Therefore, isn't the law justified in compromising their privacy to make sure since people like to make SUCH a big deal about how wrong it is to be ever invading the security of someone not previously convicted?

Concerns like that is why I don't believe in freedom of rights and speech in a certain way. I think everything you do, say, type, buy should be monitored to ensure social values.

[Rendark]

See, I *presume* the reason the law goes after people jacking off to hentai or what you described is because it's a great lead. If someone wanks to loli hentai or whatever other sick shit like anime gore, isn't it so likely he's also got the real shit? Because it's documented they always do. Therefore, isn't the law justified in compromising their privacy to make sure since people like to make SUCH a big deal about how wrong it is to be ever invading the security of someone not previously convicted?

Concerns like that is why I don't believe in freedom of rights and speech in a certain way. I think everything you do, say, type, buy should be monitored to ensure social values.

Well you presumed wrong. It's not a great lead. It in fact wastes time. The vast VAST majority into that stuff are not into the real thing. They have no right to see what you do and for good reason. If you want that then move to China or the middle east. They are all to happy to take away human rights. So like you have been told over and over again, if it is not real then it should not be illegal.

[YUPPIE]

Well you presumed wrong. It's not a great lead. It in fact wastes time. The vast VAST majority into that stuff are not into the real thing. They have no right to see what you do and for good reason. If you want that then move to China or the middle east. They are all to happy to take away human rights. So like you have been told over and over again, if it is not real then it should not be illegal.

whether I presume wrong or if it wastes time and resources, the UN and most corporations think it doesn't and think otherwise. In essence, you would be calling them - not me - out as hypocritical lying bastards despite these people being the ones we should look up to upholding justice.

[Rendark]

whether I presume wrong or if it wastes time and resources, the UN and most corporations think it doesn't and think otherwise. In essence, you would be calling them - not me - out as hypocritical lying bastards despite these people being the ones we should look up to upholding justice.

They are hypocritical lying bastards. Doesn't matter what they think of it when they are wrong. Like i said it's just a scapegoat. You're right about one thing tho. They should be the ones to uphold justice but as we can see they are not.

[unholytestament]

Then why do they make such a big deal over shit like DOA and Senran Kagura? Anime in general? Speaking from a POV of trying to believe what you wrote is true.

Who is "they" in this instance? Are you just talking about the hypocritical pop culture critics that cheer underage sex in their uber queer walking simulators yet complain about big anime tiddies?

Anime in general has done nothing but grow as a market in the west. I remember when I had to go to specialty stores, or the tiny sections in the back of hobby shops in order to find anime and manga. Now it's everywhere, and its sales have rocketed past traditional western media in many regards. Anime is on every major streaming platform, manga is sold damn near everywhere you can buy books. Anyone "making a big deal about it" is screeching into the wind.

[Polybius]

Are you a nazi if you purchase Mein Kampf in the US? No. Are you a rapist if you play RapeLay? No. Am I a fucking murderer because I watched 1man1icepick, 3guys1hammer etc? Hell no. Disgusted, sure, but not a murderer. If there's somebody who thinks that then there's something wrong with them and you should not associate yourself with that kind of people.

A game about adult looking people fucking each other is no bigger deal than a book written by one of the worst people to ever walk this earth, orchestrating plans that killed millions and planned to eradicate an entire "race" of people simply becuase he thought they weren't pure enough for his liking.

Hell, there's legal porn on pornhub and other similar sites where the actresses look like they're kids, all fuckin flat chested, short and whatnot with kidlike faces. Are you a pedophile if you watch that?

It's more likely that they don't let one circulate material than accuse of it being illegal to consume. Either way, 'obscenities' in form or words and pictures are not legally protected anywhere. Fictional work wouldn't really fall under that category.

[Bryntrollian]

Important disclaimer: I don't own Senran Kagura games and have the PSN and Steam profiles to back up that claim. But I was reading how Sony is restricting brutal regulations on crap like Senran Kagura under UN pressure. The guy behind the series then departed.

You can also throw in shit like Gal Gun, Onechanbara, Akiba's Strip, "visual novels," and Dead or Alive in here, but if you were to own these games before those enforcements, could you get into legal trouble? I'll at the least admit I liked and owned some old DOA games. But not much more.

EDIT: It's difficult to find an official Sony statement on their new policies but this is enough
https://nichegamer.com/2018/10/27/ne...lves-in-japan/

Why would you as a customer get into trouble because of Sony's new content approval process ?

[Jtbrig7390]

Different name, same dumb ass threads.

No you can not get into trouble cause u own games like Senran Kagura.

[Seranthor]

If it doesn't turn into a PR disaster in any way then they don't care.

And you aren't wrong, not at all.

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Then why do they make such a big deal over shit like DOA and Senran Kagura? Anime in general? Speaking from a POV of trying to believe what you wrote is true.

I can safely say in all my 52 years on this spinning rock that the only outrage I have seen over DOA, this Senran Kagura, anime or hentai has come from YOU in YOUR threads. Hell, I wouldn't even know this stuff existed if you hadn't been addicted for the last 12+ years.

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See, I *presume* the reason the law goes after people jacking off to hentai or what you described is because it's a great lead. If someone wanks to loli hentai or whatever other sick shit like anime gore, isn't it so likely he's also got the real shit? Because it's documented they always do. Therefore, isn't the law justified in compromising their privacy to make sure since people like to make SUCH a big deal about how wrong it is to be ever invading the security of someone not previously convicted?

Concerns like that is why I don't believe in freedom of rights and speech in a certain way. I think everything you do, say, type, buy should be monitored to ensure social values.

Really, there are laws against jacking off to Hentai... I think I wanna read these laws... I'm certain you can provide these...

[Icechaosss]

If anime tiddies are wrong I don't want to be right.

Can I get an amen my brothers and sisters?

[YUPPIE]

Really, there are laws against jacking off to Hentai... I think I wanna read these laws... I'm certain you can provide these...

Depends on depiction and content. Just like real life, of course. They are trying to erase the barrier between fiction and reality for good reason.

Hence these regulations and past arrests on lolicons.

And you're feigning knowledge again. DOA has *always* been subject of controversy in regards to this topic. Long before the MeToo movement or properties like SK came to be, it was always suspected.

[Seranthor]

Depends on depiction and content. Just like real life, of course. They are trying to erase the barrier between fiction and reality for good reason.

Hence these regulations and past arrests on lolicons.

And you're feigning knowledge again. DOA has *always* been subject of controversy in regards to this topic. Long before the MeToo movement or properties like SK came to be, it was always suspected.

I dont even know what DOA IS (probably because IDGAF to find out)... so exactly how can I feign anything?

I see you refused or missed the question... you say there are laws about jacking off to hentai... show them to us.

[unholytestament]

Depends on depiction and content. Just like real life, of course. They are trying to erase the barrier between fiction and reality for good reason.

Hence these regulations and past arrests on lolicons.

Please find me a case of someone getting arrested for "lolicon" and I am willing to bet money they were actually arrested for something else and the loli charges were added by prosecution just to stack the deck.