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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragedaug View Post
    I'm with you there. Classic Vanilla should be given at least 2 years before Classic TBC is released. Probably could go further. And depending on when they started (if they have yet) TBC, maybe 2 years is being a little too optimistic.

    TBC should be interesting to see though as far as what decision are made regarding what snapshop in time to use for it's base code. Is the community skilled and/or sophisticated enough to not have feeder guilds stuck in Kara the entire time without vendor epics?

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    You keep the Classic servers isolated and running as long as people are logging into them. TBC servers would either have character transfers, or you level from scratch.
    Based on classic launch people we'll have an easier time than actual tbc. We are a lot better at high-end content but leveling has babied people for sure. Older raids won't hold up outside of sunwell and naxx in my opinion. On paper aq 40 looks like aids but everyone on private servers calls it a joke.
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  2. #162
    I think I would like to see classic+ to get a feel of how things might have been regarding the retail route...and how different.
    See what would happen had say...talent trees had expanded like "Rifts."
    And perhaps better, to see how the storyline could have improved...(or worsen?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragedaug View Post
    You keep the Classic servers isolated and running as long as people are logging into them. TBC servers would either have character transfers, or you level from scratch.
    Yeah, BC being on its own server would work. The OP wanted the Classic servers to become TBC servers though.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by ViolenceJackRespectsWomen View Post
    Based on classic launch people we'll have an easier time than actual tbc. We are a lot better at high-end content but leveling has babied people for sure. Older raids won't hold up outside of sunwell and naxx in my opinion. On paper aq 40 looks like aids but everyone on private servers calls it a joke.
    I would say you are just hearing about the very good players. There's still a lot of very not good players that are still leveling. In Classic 40-mans you can bring bads to raid and absorb their deficiencies. You can't do that in TBC. If you bring a couple friends & family who are subpar players you will struggle in Kara until you over-gear it, and you still can't have very many bads in the 25 mans to progress.

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  5. #165
    They will 100% release TBC eventually, but it's many many years away.

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by wych View Post
    That's not true at all, for starters classic raids are 40 man, whilst TBC was 25/10 across the board.
    Dafuq do starter raids have to do with additional content past naxx? At that point you already had 20 man raida.
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  7. #167
    No one is going to want to level 1-60+70 all over again. The grind is unbelievably boring.

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanstos View Post
    Okay so I need some help here. Couple of threads now talking about how Blizzard will be stupid to release BC as an xpac on top of Classic.

    I dont understand whats so stupid about it. People want the "Classic experience", sure. But then what?

    Like is everyone on the server just going to farm the same instances over and over, and be geared to the teeth, just to do what? Run around in your awesome gear and kill the same things that you pretty much have on farm and have no use for since you already own every piece?

    I guess what im asking is, whats the end game? What am I not seeing?

    We level up, we raid, we are full geared... Alts? Whats next?
    Play the new retail content maybe? TBC content is still in retail after all, you can still see all that.
    Classic most likely did not pull in enough to make it worth it and the hype will not be nearly as big for a TBC client.

    Blizzard is a company after all and new expansions most likely generate more than these remakes do.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Play the new retail content maybe? TBC content is still in retail after all, you can still see all that.
    Classic most likely did not pull in enough to make it worth it and the hype will not be nearly as big for a TBC client.

    Blizzard is a company after all and new expansions most likely generate more than these remakes do.
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  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by mvaliz View Post
    Seasons

    Mark my words, there will be seasons in Classic eventually. Get yourself a shiny title if you and your buddies roll a season character and down Naxxramas in 4 months time!

    "But Blizzard said they're not going to do things like titles and special rewards and such in Classic!"

    Blizzard also said they wouldn't do Classic servers as well, and yet - here we are. ;P

    I mean, why couldn’t they do it like every other game and their “Classic” version — where they just progress and eventually “reset” similar to seasons- moving the characters off to Antonia Bayle I mean a random live server

  11. #171
    a BC server would be easy money for them so I assume that's what will eventually happen.. then probably wotlk
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  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanstos View Post
    Okay so I need some help here. Couple of threads now talking about how Blizzard will be stupid to release BC as an xpac on top of Classic.

    I dont understand whats so stupid about it. People want the "Classic experience", sure. But then what?

    Like is everyone on the server just going to farm the same instances over and over, and be geared to the teeth, just to do what? Run around in your awesome gear and kill the same things that you pretty much have on farm and have no use for since you already own every piece?

    I guess what im asking is, whats the end game? What am I not seeing?

    We level up, we raid, we are full geared... Alts? Whats next?
    classic will be dead before BC would be released anyway

    already had a 60% drop off in players

    the players who are getting their epic mounts and finding out there is no challenge in raiding will now start playing less and less

    ontop of that some big brain at blizzard is putting off adding battlegrounds to classic for months so there is nothing to do at end game

  13. #173
    It could happen if classic remains EXTREMELY popular once most people reached level 60.. But to be honest.. I just don't see it.

    Don't get me wrong I think the 1-60 classic WoW experience is one of the best experience every in gaming industry. So it's no suprise it's doing so well.. But once you hit end game, there is no way classic WoW can hold up against retail WoW or most MMO on the market. Because at that point you are just going to be keep raiding MC/Onyxia and do Strat/Scholo/UBRS/LBRS run everytime you log on.. It's literally just the same old grind you have in retail WoW except now you don't have daily and mythic dungeons in the mix.

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanstos View Post
    Okay so I need some help here. Couple of threads now talking about how Blizzard will be stupid to release BC as an xpac on top of Classic.

    I dont understand whats so stupid about it. People want the "Classic experience", sure. But then what?

    Like is everyone on the server just going to farm the same instances over and over, and be geared to the teeth, just to do what? Run around in your awesome gear and kill the same things that you pretty much have on farm and have no use for since you already own every piece?

    I guess what im asking is, whats the end game? What am I not seeing?

    We level up, we raid, we are full geared... Alts? Whats next?
    Imagine if blizz does nothing to add to classic and gets ended in a year. Blizz hasnt said what the future holds for classic, they didnt even give a if scenerio. Do you think blizz has other expacs ready to add to classic or cross that if/when it gets to that point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkai View Post
    No one is going to want to level 1-60+70 all over again. The grind is unbelievably boring.
    I can see thousands of players up saying f this, if thats what they decide to do. Whats the point in putting weeks of time into a toon where you can't use in the next expac, should they decide to classic-fy it. What's sad is thats what some players want to happen, put bc servers where you lvl from 1-70. Those ppl are on crack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daish View Post
    classic will be dead before BC would be released anyway

    already had a 60% drop off in players

    the players who are getting their epic mounts and finding out there is no challenge in raiding will now start playing less and less

    ontop of that some big brain at blizzard is putting off adding battlegrounds to classic for months so there is nothing to do at end game
    Are there any streamers/wow'bers that are against classic i wonder?
    I heard NK has expressed her lack of interest in classic.
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  15. #175
    Hundreds of thousands of people have been playing private vanilla for over 10 years. Ask them what they did all that time.

    Classic is barely a month old. Why is this even a thread?


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  16. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanegasi View Post
    Hundreds of thousands of people have been playing private vanilla for over 10 years. Ask them what they did all that time.

    Classic is barely a month old. Why is this even a thread?
    Good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanstos View Post
    Okay so I need some help here. Couple of threads now talking about how Blizzard will be stupid to release BC as an xpac on top of Classic.

    I dont understand whats so stupid about it. People want the "Classic experience", sure. But then what?

    Like is everyone on the server just going to farm the same instances over and over, and be geared to the teeth, just to do what? Run around in your awesome gear and kill the same things that you pretty much have on farm and have no use for since you already own every piece?

    I guess what im asking is, whats the end game? What am I not seeing?

    We level up, we raid, we are full geared... Alts? Whats next?
    I'd expect an expansion to Classic more than 20+ blades extra for TBC Classic.

    The dilemma is as soon as we get too far from Classic/Vanilla, then people will start demanding it again, and we're stuck in a loop. So we should just keep Classic in an unchanging bubble forever, and not add more.
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  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanegasi View Post
    Hundreds of thousands of people have been playing private vanilla for over 10 years. Ask them what they did all that time.

    Classic is barely a month old. Why is this even a thread?
    Oh, that's easy. They jumped from one F R E S H to another, hoping to be the next Scarab Lord, first 60, Rank 14 guy. I don't think anyone would've played private server vanilla for 10 years on the same server. It's like in Diablo 3, look at how many people come back for every new season because they want to feel the rush of having the same chance than everyone, since everyone is just starting out again. The game would probably be dead if it weren't for seasons, just like Classic will die if they just let it run for 10 years.

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    I hope not, because I loved TBC, imo it was the best stage of this game. So I much rather let it be

  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanstos View Post
    Okay so I need some help here. Couple of threads now talking about how Blizzard will be stupid to release BC as an xpac on top of Classic.

    I dont understand whats so stupid about it. People want the "Classic experience", sure. But then what?

    Like is everyone on the server just going to farm the same instances over and over, and be geared to the teeth, just to do what? Run around in your awesome gear and kill the same things that you pretty much have on farm and have no use for since you already own every piece?

    I guess what im asking is, whats the end game? What am I not seeing?

    We level up, we raid, we are full geared... Alts? Whats next?
    It will really be dependent and what the population of classic is in a year. If it is still healthy then you may see another release. If it is tanks in a year and servers are only mediocre and population is struggling then it is not worth the money.

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