Kael'thas should return as the leader of Blood Elves

[Syegfryed]

What other ideas can you think of that would give the Horde faction more "Jaina/Tyrande tier powerful main characters?"

focus on horde characters who could be powerful magic classes

give some important orcs/taurens/trolls warlocks, shamans, witch doctors screen time and leadership and you will see things flowing.

elves already have mages, they should give more screen time to rommanth

[Grazrug]

It really doesn't, because it doesn't change anything, because he's still a psycho that shouldn't be the leader of a player faction... How he became a psycho is entirely irrelevant to that.

OH no he totally should. I take his animated cyborg corpse over Bob fawning over Jaina and Baine any day.

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That's different. Lor'themar is being tongue deep in political means, in time of war with her. Kael just wanted to bang her privately and she was his subordinate.

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It is really weird that all Horde leaders believe that Alliance will sign a peace treaty instantly if Sylvanas dies. It is also weird that Alliance wants that even though they were asking Anduin to attack the Horde for entire Legion.

When you bend the narrative in favor of alliance always being good and right even when they are not, then you might use horde characters too to licking boots as long as you have the chance. This expansion is the best proof horde bias is just a fairytale.

[matrix123mko]

When you bend the narrative in favor of alliance always being good and right even when they are not, then you might use horde characters too to licking boots as long as you have the chance. This expansion is the best proof horde bias is just a fairytale.

inb4 Teldrassil comment.

[mcastillo88]

I just want to see Lorthremar get more ballsy. He has the makings of a fun and powerful character. I wanna see his ass jumping around shooting sunwell infused arrows. I feel like the only reason they haven't done that is so that we don't have two Elven Rangers (Sylvanas and Him) jumping around, but that would have also made for some badass moments. I wanna see him get a better shot than her despite having 1 less eye than her.

[melzas]

As a W3 veteran I started to play WoW in TBC. I was extremly salty that they decided to make Keal'thas a cliche villain and not a leader of blood elves. If I could retcon one thing in warcraft's lore, it would be Kael'thas' story. Instead of him going mad and turning into Legion's tool, I would make him a victim/mind controlled/blackmailed.

Alas, I feel like it's too late to change it though. Even though they keep trying to make Lorethemar relevant and cool, I think the only good thing about him is his voice actor. The character just feels bland in comparison to W3 Kael.

[Graeham]

Kael'thas was a brilliant character in Warcraft 3 and the way in which he was portrayed in TBC was terrible. I'd only want him to return if the writing surrounding him was excellent, which I don't see happening.

I don't like Lor'themar, though. That he is willing to turn against Garrosh and Sylvanas is understandable, though it's cheapened by his inability to hold a grudge when it comes to the Alliance. Especially after what Jaina did to his people back in Dalaran.

Rommath is the most interesting of the major blood elf characters these days. I'd like to see Lor'themar slain and replaced with him, provided he's written in the same manner as he has been up until now.

[In Ogres We Trust]

I would prefer to see a hidden daughter (or son) that's being raised behind the scenes by the Convocation of Silvermoon. For example, in the Children's Week questline for Outland, the Bronze Dragonflight states that Salandria is destined for great things (or not so great things... I can't remember the entire conversation), so in my bit of headcanon, what if Salandria is the orphaned child of Kael'thas Sunstrider and an unknown woman that fled to Shattrath with Voren'thal the Seer (and later died)? In an attempt to hide the child, Voren'thal the Seer places the child in the care of the local orphanage until the time that she can be revealed to the population as the next heir. Unbeknownst to him, the Blood Elves have come through the Dark Portal, and after testing their loyalty (via the Scryer reputation), he reveals the truth to a hero (the player), Lady Liadrin, Lor'themar Theron, Rommath (since he was with Kael'thas, Rommath will confirm the validity of her birth as the heir), and the Convocation of Silvermoon. Given this knowledge, it's decided that she'll be tucked away and trained as the next monarch. Finally, during her ascension to the throne, Salandria will take the regal name of Anasteria Sunstrider (thus, by taking the female variation of the name, she will honor the memory of her grandfather, and by doing so, offer a sense of continuity to the people). Think of this as Aragorn meets King George VI!

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P.S. I'll just add that they butchered KT's story, so while it would be cool to see him come back (with the Al'ar angle), I would prefer to see the hidden heir angle, and the ashes angle could be used to purify his spirit at the Sunwell, i.e. Al'ar will use some of his essence to bring back KT's spirit so that he can offer guidance to his daughter, etc.

[Jonwho]

Would be kinda weird for the Blood Elves to be lead by a psycho-fel infused-beheaded zombie...

And Lor'themar is fine.

[Makabreska]

Ye, let's reward him for that time, when he sold his people to Burning Legion. I'm sure that current Blood Elves would be thrilled.

I would prefer to see a hidden daughter (or son)

So like, another Garrosh? An offspring bummed by his/her dad's doings? To much similarities for my liking.

[Grazrug]

As a W3 veteran I started to play WoW in TBC. I was extremly salty that they decided to make Keal'thas a cliche villain and not a leader of blood elves. If I could retcon one thing in warcraft's lore, it would be Kael'thas' story. Instead of him going mad and turning into Legion's tool, I would make him a victim/mind controlled/blackmailed.

Alas, I feel like it's too late to change it though. Even though they keep trying to make Lorethemar relevant and cool, I think the only good thing about him is his voice actor. The character just feels bland in comparison to W3 Kael.

It is quite easy to make things right. Retcon the Illidan novel and remove Blizzards hardon for that character. Then bring him back and let him explain his motives.

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Would be kinda weird for the Blood Elves to be lead by a psycho-fel infused-beheaded zombie...

And Lor'themar is fine.

He really isn't.

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Kael'thas was a brilliant character in Warcraft 3 and the way in which he was portrayed in TBC was terrible. I'd only want him to return if the writing surrounding him was excellent, which I don't see happening.

I don't like Lor'themar, though. That he is willing to turn against Garrosh and Sylvanas is understandable, though it's cheapened by his inability to hold a grudge when it comes to the Alliance. Especially after what Jaina did to his people back in Dalaran.

Rommath is the most interesting of the major blood elf characters these days. I'd like to see Lor'themar slain and replaced with him, provided he's written in the same manner as he has been up until now.

I totally feel the same. Bob never sold me as interesting or worthy.

[Directionalk9]

I somewhat like the idea of a Blood Elf fusing/merging with A’lar and becoming some sort of Sun King, Phoenix King, Fire Lord Oza... Sun King will do, however Kael’thas... nah mate.

Also I always felt Kael was shady as fuck, from the very moment he was introduced. His arc in TBC felt natural, I’m always taken aback when I’m reminded I’m alone in that.

[In Ogres We Trust]

Ye, let's reward him for that time, when he sold his people to Burning Legion. I'm sure that current Blood Elves would be thrilled.



So like, another Garrosh? An offspring bummed by his/her dad's doings? To much similarities for my liking.

In what way can you possibly tie my story to Garrosh's story?

[vipers]

How can it be second coming if we killed him already 2 times and on second kill we took his head off

[Jonwho]

He really isn't.

He is fine.

Don't get me wrong, WC3 Kael was fantastic... too bad that he became in such abomination in WoW.

I would love to see him redeemed as Illidan, but I doubt we get that pleasure. The character butchering of Kael'thas and Illidan is the reason I dislike so much the lore of BC.

But that don't mean that Lor'themar is a bad character. In fact, is one of the best build character of the roster of racial leaders.

[Powerogue]

Kael'thas was a brilliant character in Warcraft 3 and the way in which he was portrayed in TBC was terrible. I'd only want him to return if the writing surrounding him was excellent, which I don't see happening.

I don't like Lor'themar, though. That he is willing to turn against Garrosh and Sylvanas is understandable, though it's cheapened by his inability to hold a grudge when it comes to the Alliance. Especially after what Jaina did to his people back in Dalaran.

Rommath is the most interesting of the major blood elf characters these days. I'd like to see Lor'themar slain and replaced with him, provided he's written in the same manner as he has been up until now.

I actually had to pause and ask "who?" https://wow.gamepedia.com/Grand_Magister_Rommath

"Oh yeah, that guy who's always standing next to Lor'themar."

I feel like he could use a teensy bit of development before taking a position like that.

[Caerule]

Lor'themar's had my vote since he flipped that bench into the Silvermoon fountain in frustration in the Purge of Dalaran questline.

[Reinhart11]

Why should he?

The current Blood Elves have nothing in common with the interesting concept of a race the Blood Elves were in TFT. Nothing. Currently in WoW, the Blood Elves are a badly fucked up version of High Elves.

And what would happen if they resurrect Kael'thas? He becomes another fanboy of Anduin, Sadfang, Jaina and Thrall? The TFT Kael'thas would have bitch slapped Jaina into oblivion for doing the crap she did in Dalaran to the Blood Elves. What do you think BFA or future resurected Kael'thas would do in such a situation? Probably kneel before her supreme magical female human might, kiss her feet and get cucked. And probably liking it as well. New boyfriend material after the Lordaeron prince and the blue dragon dodged that bullet.

Spare me that garbage please and let these characters rest in peace. They were fucked in their behind's in World of Warcraft more than enough. Arthas, Deathwing, Archimonde, Kil'jaeden, Malygos, Azshara all say hello as well.

[Powerogue]

Lor'themar's had my vote since he flipped that bench into the Silvermoon fountain in frustration in the Purge of Dalaran questline.

Lor'themar for Warchief 2020. For everything he's done since, that's still his most memorable moment for me.

THAT HUMAN WITCH!

[Directionalk9]

Lor'themar for Warchief 2020. For everything he's done since, that's still his most memorable moment for me.

THAT HUMAN WITCH!

And then to find out she comes from a nation with a Witch problem.

[Caerule]

Why should he?

The current Blood Elves have nothing in common with the interesting concept of a race the Blood Elves were in TFT. Nothing. Currently in WoW, the Blood Elves are a badly fucked up version of High Elves.

And what would happen if they resurrect Kael'thas? He becomes another fanboy of Anduin, Sadfang, Jaina and Thrall? The TFT Kael'thas would have bitch slapped Jaina into oblivion for doing the crap she did in Dalaran to the Blood Elves. What do you think BFA or future resurected Kael'thas would do in such a situation? Probably kneel before her supreme magical female human might, kiss her feet and get cucked. And probably liking it as well. New boyfriend material after the Lordaeron prince and the blue dragon dodged that bullet.

Spare me that garbage please and let these characters rest in peace. They were fucked in their behind's in World of Warcraft more than enough. Arthas, Deathwing, Archimonde, Kil'jaeden, Malygos, Azshara all say hello as well.

You know that Kael'thas was the original Jaina fanboy, right? He was the first one to crush on her. Before even Arthas.

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Lor'themar for Warchief 2020. For everything he's done since, that's still his most memorable moment for me.

THAT HUMAN WITCH!

I did not know that picture existed, and I love it.