Quote Originally Posted by darkoms View Post
We argue about whether Agrammar's avatar possessed all the power of titan. I say that this is not, otherwise we could not have defeated him.
I would say it's likely the avatar we fought was not the fully-realized or empowered Agrammar, no. The question that really remains is what is the actual nature of the Titans of the Pantheon based on their defeat and subsequent "rebirth" in Antorus - are they avatars in the same way Sargeras' avatar worked, are they simply vastly diminished Titans owing to their previous defeat and subsequent tortures (and the fact that Sargeras was unlikely to allow them to assume their full strengths as his servants), or are they still mostly intact but acting through avatars of their own with a majority of their remaining might whatever that might prove to be? The situation is a bit nebulous, if you ask me.