1. #5041
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    I don't get why people like you keep bringing her up, She lost get over it.
    Dude, put that turnip earner on ignore. No reason to ever engage with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    I've been trying to work out if it's political cowardice on the Democrats' part, or if they literally can't enforce Congressional subpoenas because that's literally how pathetic the US government's oversight powers are.
    Or option three, they already have what they need from other sources and are just using these defiances to show how unjust people in this administration are.

    Not any better than what your reasons are to be honest.

  3. #5043
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Again, this whole new scandal started when Trump tried to pressure the Ukraine to back up his conspiracy theory about how Russia wasn't responsible for the DNC hack in 2016. Project more lol.

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    I've been trying to work out if it's political cowardice on the Democrats' part, or if they literally can't enforce Congressional subpoenas because that's literally how pathetic the US government's oversight powers are.
    My guess has been they're concerned about public opinion / sympathy swinging to Republicans over the optics of seeing them in cuffs / jail. So, option a) cowardice, based on a helping of b) pathetically weak, since we've mostly just been naively relying on people's sense of...duty, obligation, shame, adherence to norms, right and wrong? to honor lawfully-issued subpoenas, and the DoJ has been thoroughly captured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Dude, put that turnip earner on ignore. No reason to ever engage with him.
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.
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  6. #5046
    Democrats should do the country a favor and stop wasting our time. Impeachment will not work, it will never. You will cause more violence and riots if this happens. I want to be safe, don't start a coup against Trump just because you have emotional problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythic-RaidLead View Post
    Democrats should do the country a favor and stop wasting our time. Impeachment will not work, it will never. You will cause more violence and riots if this happens. I want to be safe, don't start a coup against Trump just because you have emotional problems.
    Wherein you admit that Republican voters are violent and irrational and will attack people based on political disagreement, and thus Democrats should not enforce the law to appease these domestic terrorists.

    That's not a convincing argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythic-RaidLead View Post
    Democrats should do the country a favor and stop wasting our time. Impeachment will not work, it will never. You will cause more violence and riots if this happens. I want to be safe, don't start a coup against Trump just because you have emotional problems.
    its not a coup, its a legal process allowed by the constitution. TO claim it is a coup is to say you don't believe in the constitution or the rule of law.

  9. #5049
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Wherein you admit that Republican voters are violent and irrational and will attack people based on political disagreement, and thus Democrats should not enforce the law to appease these domestic terrorists.

    That's not a convincing argument.
    Republicans believe the democrats are total criminals across the board because they support and endorse illegal immigration across the border which makes the entire democrat party a domestic threat to the nation and a group that does not believe in the rule of law. Then you have people like Maxine Waters who make a call for action to confront republicans on the street which is a clear inciting of violence in the view of republicans and nothing happens to her. Furthermore, if the leadership in DC fails to correct the problem and then the House impeaches Trump, you WILL get civil unrest and this goes WAY beyond being irrational and disagreeing with the democrats. For republicans, impeachment is a clear act of war on the people on the nation.

    Its gonna happen. There will be civil unrest if Trump is impeached. The nation will permanently change. Forever. If you don't understand why that is coming, you need to back off a laser focus on the Trump impeachment and look at everything else going on.

    And it doesn't have to be a "convincing argument". The Trump base isn't going to respond to these events by sitting down at a conference and talking it out. You are gonna see a large rise in militias and marches and protests. Fighting will break out. The nation ends with Trump's impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Republicans believe the democrats are total criminals across the board because they support and endorse illegal immigration across the border .
    No one supports illegal inmigration. They support not attacking and incarcerating people for the "crime" of being in the US irregularly. Also they support making people who come there that way, get their visa/papers, so they no longer are in the US irregularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Republicans believe the democrats are total criminals across the board because they support and endorse illegal immigration across the border which makes the entire democrat party a domestic threat to the nation and a group that does not believe in the rule of law. Then you have people like Maxine Waters who make a call for action to confront republicans on the street which is a clear inciting of violence in the view of republicans and nothing happens to her. Furthermore, if the leadership in DC fails to correct the problem and then the House impeaches Trump, you WILL get civil unrest and this goes WAY beyond being irrational and disagreeing with the democrats. For republicans, impeachment is a clear act of war on the people on the nation.

    Its gonna happen. There will be civil unrest if Trump is impeached. The nation will permanently change. Forever. If you don't understand why that is coming, you need to back off a laser focus on the Trump impeachment and look at everything else going on.

    And it doesn't have to be a "convincing argument". The Trump base isn't going to respond to these events by sitting down at a conference and talking it out. You are gonna see a large rise in militias and marches and protests. Fighting will break out. The nation ends with Trump's impeachment.
    I am so fucking sick to death of delusional, victim-whoring right wingers and their threats of violence if they don't get their lawless way. Impeachment is a constitutional process that is more than warranted here and well past due. If they want to try to start a militia led uprising, then let them fucking do it already and stop bitching about it.

  12. #5052
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspellz View Post
    its not a coup, its a legal process allowed by the constitution. TO claim it is a coup is to say you don't believe in the constitution or the rule of law.
    Ethics, morals, laws, etc... are for Democrats to follow. To Trump and the GOP they are inconveniences that are to be ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspellz View Post
    its not a coup, its a legal process allowed by the constitution. TO claim it is a coup is to say you don't believe in the constitution or the rule of law.
    They don't. Cons only pretend to care about the Constitution when Democrats are in charge. As soon as conservatives get power they view the Constitution with contempt since it keeps them from doing what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Republicans believe the democrats are total criminals across the board because they support and endorse illegal immigration across the border which makes the entire democrat party a domestic threat to the nation and a group that does not believe in the rule of law.
    And?

    This is objectively false, and deserves as much polite consideration as the idea that the Democrats are all Lizardpeople from Mars wearing human skinsuits.

    The beliefs of crazy people don't deserve consideration or respect.

    Then you have people like Maxine Waters who make a call for action to confront republicans on the street which is a clear inciting of violence in the view of republicans and nothing happens to her.
    Again, it wasn't, since there was no suggestion of violence in Waters' comments.

    This is projection, and says more about these particular Republicans than Maxine Waters.

    Furthermore, if the leadership in DC fails to correct the problem and then the House impeaches Trump, you WILL get civil unrest and this goes WAY beyond being irrational and disagreeing with the democrats. For republicans, impeachment is a clear act of war on the people on the nation.
    Not "for Republicans". For "domestic terrorists". Let's call a spade a spade, shall we?

    If you'd pick up weapons and engage in violent uprising and unrest because of the normal legal procedures of government, you're a domestic terrorist. Your views not only don't deserve consideration, they should be actively worked against. If that provokes you to violence, that's your fault, and you're a dangerous individual who'll deserve the prison sentence they reap.

    Its gonna happen. There will be civil unrest if Trump is impeached. The nation will permanently change. Forever. If you don't understand why that is coming, you need to back off a laser focus on the Trump impeachment and look at everything else going on.
    You're just fearmongering based on nothing, at this point. Trying to scare Democrats into behaving unethically and bowing to the whims of terrorists.

    Fuck. That.

    And it doesn't have to be a "convincing argument". The Trump base isn't going to respond to these events by sitting down at a conference and talking it out. You are gonna see a large rise in militias and marches and protests. Fighting will break out. The nation ends with Trump's impeachment.
    Again, you're talking about domestic terrorism.

    If you seriously think this will end the USA, then the USA is already dead, and this is the last few kicks before it flatlines. If it's really that bad, it's already fatally wounded and it cannot be recovered.

    That's not an argument for celebrating the rot that's killing it.

    Not that I agree with your hypothesis to begin with. Just that if it is true, it's already way, way too late to fix it. The damage is done, and there's no saving it.
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  15. #5055
    Quote Originally Posted by Mythic-RaidLead View Post
    Democrats should do the country a favor and stop wasting our time. Impeachment will not work, it will never. You will cause more violence and riots if this happens. I want to be safe, don't start a coup against Trump just because you have emotional problems.
    If there are riots due to a perfectly legal process being followed as it was intended, then that is the price of lawfulness. So be it. They will be dispersed, order will prevail, and the adults in the nation will move on with the business of governance. I doubt it will come to that. Perhaps an uptick in domestic terrorism due to extremists fueled by the kind of destructive rhetoric you and others like you disseminate.

  16. #5056
    So I gave up and skipped 51 pages, it's not even that long since I was up to date in this thread .....I assume those 51 pages were mostly team trump showing up 1 by 1 to be shot down over the course of 5 or so pages each ^^

  17. #5057
    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Republicans believe the democrats are total criminals across the board because they support and endorse illegal immigration across the border which makes the entire democrat party a domestic threat to the nation and a group that does not believe in the rule of law. Then you have people like Maxine Waters who make a call for action to confront republicans on the street which is a clear inciting of violence in the view of republicans and nothing happens to her. Furthermore, if the leadership in DC fails to correct the problem and then the House impeaches Trump, you WILL get civil unrest and this goes WAY beyond being irrational and disagreeing with the democrats. For republicans, impeachment is a clear act of war on the people on the nation.

    Its gonna happen. There will be civil unrest if Trump is impeached. The nation will permanently change. Forever. If you don't understand why that is coming, you need to back off a laser focus on the Trump impeachment and look at everything else going on.

    And it doesn't have to be a "convincing argument". The Trump base isn't going to respond to these events by sitting down at a conference and talking it out. You are gonna see a large rise in militias and marches and protests. Fighting will break out. The nation ends with Trump's impeachment.
    First off please let me know which politician is endorsing illegal immigration? The only group and or bloc supporting Illegal Immigration is the business groups that profit off of that labor why is the Republicans not going after them instead of the people instead? It makes no logical or educational sense to attack a downtrodden group of people instead of the actual ones hiring / endorsing more to come.

    Also what is the most civil unrest they can provide to begin with? Do you honestly think i would not give names, addresses , phone numbers to authorities that i feel are right wing unhinged morons? Hell i would do it for free without a need or want for personal fame or credit. I want the lunatics outed so that way they are removed from the public because honestly i struggle to see how they even deserve to be among the differences in society. How does this change if he is just elected out of office instead of impeached? Their god emperor would still be removed and they will likely speak about DEEP STATE OUT TO GET MY BOY TRUMP.

    I hope they form a militia and get into an actual skirmish with Law Enforcement / Military or National Guard so that way the rest of the domestic terrorist ( because that is what they are ) will get a quick lesson in what not to do. It is not 1776 and you will never overthrow a modern government.

    Actually i am going to fly back home next winter just to vote against Trump regardless of the Democratic nominee, i might make a vacation out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeezusisacasual View Post
    First off please let me know which politician is endorsing illegal immigration? The only group and or bloc supporting Illegal Immigration is the business groups that profit off of that labor why is the Republicans not going after them instead of the people instead? It makes no logical or educational sense to attack a downtrodden group of people instead of the actual ones hiring / endorsing more to come.

    Also what is the most civil unrest they can provide to begin with? Do you honestly think i would not give names, addresses , phone numbers to authorities that i feel are right wing unhinged morons? Hell i would do it for free without a need or want for personal fame or credit. I want the lunatics outed so that way they are removed from the public because honestly i struggle to see how they even deserve to be among the differences in society. How does this change if he is just elected out of office instead of impeached? Their god emperor would still be removed and they will likely speak about DEEP STATE OUT TO GET MY BOY TRUMP.

    I hope they form a militia and get into an actual skirmish with Law Enforcement / Military or National Guard so that way the rest of the domestic terrorist ( because that is what they are ) will get a quick lesson in what not to do. It is not 1776 and you will never overthrow a modern government.

    Actually i am going to fly back home next winter just to vote against Trump regardless of the Democratic nominee, i might make a vacation out of it.
    Save some money and look into an absentee ballot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeezusisacasual View Post
    First off please let me know which politician is endorsing illegal immigration? The only group and or bloc supporting Illegal Immigration is the business groups that profit off of that labor why is the Republicans not going after them instead of the people instead? It makes no logical or educational sense to attack a downtrodden group of people instead of the actual ones hiring / endorsing more to come.

    Also what is the most civil unrest they can provide to begin with? Do you honestly think i would not give names, addresses , phone numbers to authorities that i feel are right wing unhinged morons? Hell i would do it for free without a need or want for personal fame or credit. I want the lunatics outed so that way they are removed from the public because honestly i struggle to see how they even deserve to be among the differences in society. How does this change if he is just elected out of office instead of impeached? Their god emperor would still be removed and they will likely speak about DEEP STATE OUT TO GET MY BOY TRUMP.

    I hope they form a militia and get into an actual skirmish with Law Enforcement / Military or National Guard so that way the rest of the domestic terrorist ( because that is what they are ) will get a quick lesson in what not to do. It is not 1776 and you will never overthrow a modern government.

    Actually i am going to fly back home next winter just to vote against Trump regardless of the Democratic nominee, i might make a vacation out of it.
    I honestly hope they do cause "civil unrest". The national guard will come down on them like a ton of bricks. It'll be like Afghanistan where they had pickup trucks with machine guns and we had M-1 Abrams and A-10's.

  20. #5060
    Quote Originally Posted by Mythic-RaidLead View Post
    Democrats should do the country a favor and stop wasting our time. Impeachment will not work, it will never. You will cause more violence and riots if this happens. I want to be safe, don't start a coup against Trump just because you have emotional problems.
    Yeah, pass. If they are going to cause violence to defend a fucking traitor, then they deserve to be arrested right along side him. And no, this isn't a fucking coup, this is a constitutionally mandated inquiry after Trump broke the fucking law.

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