1. #12681
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    I'm sorry what?

    You, as a Trump Supporter Independent want to point finger at old men yelling nonsense? Really.

    Are you sure?
    Depends what that nonsense is.

    People again will gladly hold their noses and vote Trump. A searing indictment on just how bad the Democratic field is.

  2. #12682
    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post

    Sometimes I honestly wonder if we'll survive this as a country. The Senate GOP and Trump are as blatantly corrupt as a third world banana republic.
    It still bothers me so much for the past 3 years the GOP is acting like this is the last election ever...its not like they are planning for their careers after Trump. One day Trump will be out of office, all his corruption being brought to light as his staff tries to make a quick buck while the iron is hot, Trump will look bad as he tries to stay out of prison for the rest of his life because he made too many enemies and there appears to be plenty of dirt to take him down.

    Mark my words there will be a "Great Recon" and in 5 years people will wonder how Trump got elected (hell they been trying to do this since he got elected with the whole woke independent game)...yet these senators will be on record defending Trump. Several of these Senators could have taken a stand but shortened their careers because they are not planning for a career after Trump.

    McSally-Probably gone after her little audience for 1 stunt
    Gardner - GOP will probably abandon this seat...will be much to hard to defend and there will be other seats that need to be defended that are much more likely to be winnable.
    Collins - Most likely gone also
    Tillis - Makes his argument to stay that much harder - 50/50
    Whoever takes Roberts place - Considering the shitshow in KS and Trump being Trump Democrats could win it now.
    Ernst - Probably going to keep her seat but it became that much more expensive to save it from the GOP warchest.

    Even if you consider Jones being vulnerable you are still looking at a potential +4 swing alone.

    Also consider this:



    That's alot of seats you need to defend if Trump is gonna be Trump
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  3. #12683
    Quote Originally Posted by akris15 View Post
    It still bothers me so much for the past 3 years the GOP is acting like this is the last election ever...its not like they are planning for their careers after Trump. One day Trump will be out of office, all his corruption being brought to light as his staff tries to make a quick buck while the iron is hot, Trump will look bad as he tries to stay out of prison for the rest of his life because he made too many enemies and there appears to be plenty of dirt to take him down.

    Mark my words there will be a "Great Recon" and in 5 years people will wonder how Trump got elected (hell they been trying to do this since he got elected with the whole woke independent game)...yet these senators will be on record defending Trump. Several of these Senators could have taken a stand but shortened their careers because they are not planning for a career after Trump.

    McSally-Probably gone after her little audience for 1 stunt
    Gardner - GOP will probably abandon this seat...will be much to hard to defend and there will be other seats that need to be defended that are much more likely to be winnable.
    Collins - Most likely gone also
    Tillis - Makes his argument to stay that much harder - 50/50
    Whoever takes Roberts place - Considering the shitshow in KS and Trump being Trump Democrats could win it now.
    Ernst - Probably going to keep her seat but it became that much more expensive to save it from the GOP warchest.

    Even if you consider Jones being vulnerable you are still looking at a potential +4 swing alone.

    Also consider this:



    That's alot of seats you need to defend if Trump is gonna be Trump
    The sad thing is, these congress(wo)men when they get voted out of office, will still have a career being a consultant on Faux News, work as a lobbyist somewhere, or any place where they can continue to spout BS as long as it's something people want to hear. So in many cases, they don't care. It's basically scorched earth politics imo which is messed up.

  4. #12684
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Depends what that nonsense is.

    People again will gladly hold their noses and vote Trump. A searing indictment on just how bad the Democratic field is.
    Yeah, no.

    Anyone voting for Trump based on thinking the Dem field is bad, is either severely misinformed or trying to make up an excuse for supporting Trump while keeping the door open for them to say they really didn't want to support him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    By winning 42 states in November? Trump 2020, it's inevitable now.
    Like they voted for Clinton’s third term? Yeah keep your delusions to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    I'm sorry what?

    You, as a Trump Supporter Independent want to point finger at old men yelling nonsense? Really.

    Are you sure?
    It only counts if you’re a Democrat. These hypocrites always show their true colors.

  6. #12686
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Easily.

    Just look at the Democratic field. Geazer socialists arguijg with each other over perceived thought crimes and other transgressions. Socialists trying to tell us they can "fix" an already booming and successful economy.

    Look, there has to be a viable other option for people to vote for. "Not Trump" isn't good enough anymore.
    Maybe in 2018 it was, but not now especially as the Democratic clown show continues to unravel.

    Maybe next time the DNC should put together better candidates and policies. This country has shown it will gladly vote for someone with a bunch of flaws as long as their policies are popular. Something the Democrats are currently struggling with.
    That's not evidence... I'll wait.

    I get that's what you Trump supporters want, but that's not evidence. Remember when you got caught trying to pretend you weren't a Trump supporter? yeah, good times.

    let me know when you have it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akris15 View Post
    It still bothers me so much for the past 3 years the GOP is acting like this is the last election ever...its not like they are planning for their careers after Trump. One day Trump will be out of office, all his corruption being brought to light as his staff tries to make a quick buck while the iron is hot, Trump will look bad as he tries to stay out of prison for the rest of his life because he made too many enemies and there appears to be plenty of dirt to take him down.

    Mark my words there will be a "Great Recon" and in 5 years people will wonder how Trump got elected (hell they been trying to do this since he got elected with the whole woke independent game)...yet these senators will be on record defending Trump. Several of these Senators could have taken a stand but shortened their careers because they are not planning for a career after Trump.
    Agreed. If Trump doesn't manufacture some emergency that keeps him in power illegally, we'll eventually see the demise of his reign (I use that spelling on purpose). And the Great Recon will be interesting, along with the length and depth of the Truth and Reconciliation Committee, as they dig into all of his families and cohorts illegal activities.


    Quote Originally Posted by akris15 View Post
    McSally-Probably gone after her little audience for 1 stunt
    Gardner - GOP will probably abandon this seat...will be much to hard to defend and there will be other seats that need to be defended that are much more likely to be winnable.
    Collins - Most likely gone also
    Tillis - Makes his argument to stay that much harder - 50/50
    Whoever takes Roberts place - Considering the shitshow in KS and Trump being Trump Democrats could win it now.
    Ernst - Probably going to keep her seat but it became that much more expensive to save it from the GOP warchest.

    Even if you consider Jones being vulnerable you are still looking at a potential +4 swing alone.

    Also consider this:



    That's alot of seats you need to defend if Trump is gonna be Trump
    It is interesting how much more vulnerable the Senate is becoming. I'm seeing polling data from 538 saying McConnell is even in trouble.
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  8. #12688
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Yeah, no.

    Anyone voting for Trump based on thinking the Dem field is bad, is either severely misinformed or trying to make up an excuse for supporting Trump while keeping the door open for them to say they really didn't want to support him.
    Agreed. Nobody is going to vote for Trump in 2020 who doesn't truly want to. They'll write in or refrain from voting, maybe, but deliberately voting for someone objectively worse than the current Dem frontrunners out of spite isn't likely to happen in any great numbers.

  9. #12689
    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Agreed. If Trump doesn't manufacture some emergency that keeps him in power illegally, we'll eventually see the demise of his reign (I use that spelling on purpose). And the Great Recon will be interesting, along with the length and depth of the Truth and Reconciliation Committee, as they dig into all of his families and cohorts illegal activities.




    It is interesting how much more vulnerable the Senate is becoming. I'm seeing polling data from 538 saying McConnell is even in trouble.
    I am honestly wondering if they are going to try wholesale rigging elections to keep power at this point. They HAVE to know the consequences if they are out of power and with everything they have done so far, that really isn't a stretch for them, especially with the history of electronic voting going all the way back to the Bush years.

    I fear we will get a huge deal over election fraud followed by another "Anthrax in the mail" scare or something similar just long enough to distract the media who then never looks back.
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
    "mmo-champion.com##li.postbitignored"
    to your ublock or adblock filter to actually ignore ignored posters. Now just need a way to ignore responses to them as well.

  10. #12690
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Depends what that nonsense is.

    People again will gladly hold their noses and vote Trump. A searing indictment on just how bad the Democratic field is.
    The irony of that is rich considering 2016.
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  11. #12691
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Depends what that nonsense is.

    People again will gladly hold their noses and vote Trump. A searing indictment on just how bad the Democratic field is.
    Except, that doesn't really apply to you, as you are an avowed Trump supporter. There's no need to hold your nose, you want him to win. Hell, you got caught lying about it in the past, so your "concern" is completely disingenuous.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

  12. #12692
    Schiff just eviscerated the opening statement of the impeachment trial. What a fucking shitshow the response from Sekulow was.


    He'll be running in 2024 if Trump wins, 2028 if a Dem wins.

  13. #12693
    so McGahn might have just lied with that "the republicans werent allowed in the skiff" claim

  14. #12694
    The defense aren't even trying to deny anything that's out. They're just trying to make sure more doesn't come out, and looking foolish and lying(to the chief justice of the supreme court) doing it.

  15. #12695
    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post

    It is interesting how much more vulnerable the Senate is becoming. I'm seeing polling data from 538 saying McConnell is even in trouble.

    Yeah there is alot of weakness right now where the GOP is gonna need to be spending money where they historically wouldn't be. Just like football when you play prevent defense and try to spread out something is gonna eventually get through (or in this case lose "safe" seats)


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    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    so McGahn might have just lied with that "the republicans werent allowed in the skiff" claim
    *Cipollone, and yes he absolutely did. No grey area either. A straight up lie.

  17. #12697
    McConnell caved on the two-day limit

    McConnell amended his organizing resolution for Trump's impeachment trial at the last minute to give each side three days to make their opening arguments, which can last for up to 24 hours, the same amount of time given to the prosecution and defense during the 1999 impeachment trial of President Clinton.

    The GOP leader made another significant amendment to his resolution by allowing the House impeachment inquiry to be entered into the Senate’s official trial record — subject to hearsay objections — something McConnell declined to greenlight in his initial proposal.

    The resolution also allows each side to choose how many people may make those arguments.

    A copy of the resolution provided to the press showed the changes added in a handwritten scrawl on the printed document. McConnell had gotten pushback from some Republican colleagues on his draft during a lunch meeting held immediately before the trial started Tuesday shortly after 1 p.m.

    The GOP leader changed his resolution to give prosecutors more time after moderate senators including Sens. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is up for reelection this year, pushed for some last-minute changes.
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  18. #12698
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    McConnell caved on the two-day limit

    McConnell amended his organizing resolution for Trump's impeachment trial at the last minute to give each side three days to make their opening arguments, which can last for up to 24 hours, the same amount of time given to the prosecution and defense during the 1999 impeachment trial of President Clinton.

    The GOP leader made another significant amendment to his resolution by allowing the House impeachment inquiry to be entered into the Senate’s official trial record — subject to hearsay objections — something McConnell declined to greenlight in his initial proposal.

    The resolution also allows each side to choose how many people may make those arguments.

    A copy of the resolution provided to the press showed the changes added in a handwritten scrawl on the printed document. McConnell had gotten pushback from some Republican colleagues on his draft during a lunch meeting held immediately before the trial started Tuesday shortly after 1 p.m.

    The GOP leader changed his resolution to give prosecutors more time after moderate senators including Sens. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is up for reelection this year, pushed for some last-minute changes.
    Well that didn't take long...surly McConnell should have known if he pushed this through in 2 days he would have lost 4 seats on that alone

  19. #12699
    I actually served on jury duty in a civil case, and the ambulance chaser was a better lawyer than these clowns.

  20. #12700
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    I actually served on jury duty in a civil case, and the ambulance chaser was a better lawyer than these clowns.
    I'll give credit where credit is due Schiff isn't doing a bad job...

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