1. #12901
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51231047

    Cool, so both parties Senators, though seemingly many more Republicans, are acting like bored schoolkids.

    This. Is. Your. Fucking. Job.

    If I acted like this during an event for work that was even remotely as significant and important as an Impeachment trial, I'd be instantly fired for unprofessionalism.

    This is unacceptable, and all Senators sleeping, doddling, making paper airplanes, repeatedly leaving to check Twitter, and playing with fidget spinners need to receive a school kids punishment for their behavior - detention where they're forced to remain in the chamber even longer.
    its probably to signal to their voters that "impeachment doesn't matter" as they've been saying the whole time.

  2. #12902
    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    They've been ignoring pretty much all of them. Several GOP Senators were have been chatting with each other during the proceedings, for example, though I suppose that makes sense since they're not there to get information anyway given that their vote is already locked in.
    Yeah, Josh Hawley, or whatever his name is, was doing a Fox News interview, while the senate was in session yesterday. Which is EXPLICITLY against their agreed upon rules. I can understand if Graham was going to the bathroom, but it was convenient he left when he was going to be a star attraction in a hypocritical video he did in 1999.

  3. #12903
    So if i was on trial, and my lawyer had documents that only proved my complete and total exoneration, its best if i actually do everything to withhold that evidence that exonerates mefrom the jury instead of showing it? Thats basically what republicans are saying with trump withholding documents, and half the country buys it. Just show the documents if theres nothing there, and youll make us look like fools in the process! whats the downside.

  4. #12904
    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    If left unchecked, Republicans would "focus on the country" in much the same way they would focus on an unprotected underage schoolgirl.
    so now all republicans are pedophiles?
    There is blood on the path I walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I can't wait for this to be over, maybe then they can all just focus on the country.
    How? McConnell just blocks votes on fucking everything the House sends to him.

  6. #12906
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I can't wait for this to be over, maybe then they can all just focus on the country.
    Like you really care. McConnell is sitting on ove 400 Bill's and claims the Dems do nothing.

  7. #12907
    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    so now all republicans are pedophiles?
    hey, you said it
    though they have shown they are more than willing in masse to go to bat for one (Dennis Hastert)

  8. #12908
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    How? McConnell just blocks votes on fucking everything the House sends to him.
    Or he lets Trump continue pushing tariffs on countries unilaterally, with no reason, other than they hurt his snowflake feelings. Which in turn costs the US people more money.

  9. #12909
    I just got home not long ago and missed the Senate stuff. Can anyone get me a rundown on it?
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  10. #12910
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51231047

    Cool, so both parties Senators, though seemingly many more Republicans, are acting like bored schoolkids.

    This. Is. Your. Fucking. Job.

    If I acted like this during an event for work that was even remotely as significant and important as an Impeachment trial, I'd be instantly fired for unprofessionalism.

    This is unacceptable, and all Senators sleeping, doddling, making paper airplanes, repeatedly leaving to check Twitter, and playing with fidget spinners need to receive a school kids punishment for their behavior - detention where they're forced to remain in the chamber even longer.
    I don’t really have a problem with fidget spinners they help with anxiety and stress. Basically a stress ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    I don’t really have a problem with fidget spinners they help with anxiety and stress. Basically a stress ball.
    You also don't have a problem with Trump committing crimes, so excuse us if we find that your bar for what is acceptable is low.

  12. #12912
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    You also don't have a problem with Trump committing crimes, so excuse us if we find that your bar for what is acceptable is low.
    Picking a fight about fidget spinners. You go girl!

  13. #12913
    Damn it, I find the coverage of the Senate just as they end it for the day.....

    Anything worth mentioning about it other than Senators walking out, food and fidget spinners?
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  14. #12914
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Damn it, I find the coverage of the Senate just as they end it for the day.....

    Anything worth mentioning about it other than Senators walking out, food and fidget spinners?
    Sure, Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee was also reading a book and Tweeting during the whole thing.

    One thing of interest to note, however, is that several "at risk" GOP Senators aren't helping their approval ratings any:
    https://twitter.com/Politidope/statu...644089857?s=20

  15. #12915
    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Sure, Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee was also reading a book and Tweeting during the whole thing.

    One thing of interest to note, however, is that several "at risk" GOP Senators aren't helping their approval ratings any:
    https://twitter.com/Politidope/statu...644089857?s=20
    Ah, so pretty much the Democrats told us all the stuff we learned in the house while the rest just dicked around. I expect the republicans to be eyeball deep in lies and conspiracy theories when it is their turn.
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  16. #12916
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Ah, so pretty much the Democrats told us all the stuff we learned in the house while the rest just dicked around. I expect the republicans to be eyeball deep in lies and conspiracy theories when it is their turn.
    They didn't wait. The defense lawyers were lying up a storm yesterday.

  17. #12917
    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    They didn't wait. The defense lawyers were lying up a storm yesterday.
    Oh yeah, I saw that. Was actually shooting people down on facebook during it on the chat thing beside. I missed the entire thing today though. Had to get up at about 7am this morning and didn't get home till about 8:45 or so. Missed it all today.
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  18. #12918
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51231047

    Cool, so both parties Senators, though seemingly many more Republicans, are acting like bored schoolkids.

    This. Is. Your. Fucking. Job.

    If I acted like this during an event for work that was even remotely as significant and important as an Impeachment trial, I'd be instantly fired for unprofessionalism.

    This is unacceptable, and all Senators sleeping, doddling, making paper airplanes, repeatedly leaving to check Twitter, and playing with fidget spinners need to receive a school kids punishment for their behavior - detention where they're forced to remain in the chamber even longer.
    This is legitimately some of the most disgusting shit I've heard about our elected officials in years.

    What is the point of all this - A 233 year old Constitution with 27 Amendments, a vast government that directly employs millions of people and indirectly employs tens of millions of people, the worlds most powerful military, a $4 trillion a year budget, the entire Capitol Complex, and most importantly of all, our supposedly cherished democratic principles, if the people we elect to do a job can't actually stand doing their jobs.

    It should be a solemn affair. Instead, I half expect one of them to unbuckle their belt and put their hand in their pants like some old man on the couch.

    I'm reminded of Bane's words from "the Dark Knight Rises... "Peace has cost you your strength... victory has defeated you". These people are able to act like this because the stakes are so low. Because nothing matters in what they do. They're small people - men and women - coasting through on the great achievements of their great predecessors. The Republicans can indulge Trump and even Democrats can not take this seriously enough, because they don't see any risk whatsoever. Because it's a game and nothing matters. In the end, the budget gets signed, federal services continue to 330 million people, the US military defends us, and our neighbors are weak and our enemies are distant and also fairly weak compared to us.

    What horrific rot. I never imagined that on this topic of all, they would basically act like they're students in detention, rather than the so-called world's greatest deliberative body.

    Most of them will also win-reelection next year.

    When I say "Trump is symptomatic, this is exactly what I mean". If Americans had any actual respect for their democratic inheritance - and I honestly don't think they do anymore besides the freedom to fuck who they want and the freedom to own a gun - they would drum out of the Senate every asshole who took this less than completely seriously, regardless of ideology. If Senators don't want to do their constitutional duties, get people who will.

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    The GOP warns itself that calling Bolton will immediately cause Trump to clamp down on executive privilege so hard you'd assume he was sitting on it. This battle would drag out the impeachment trial.

    Therefore, this train of thought goes, they shouldn't call Bolton to testify. Just let Trump win and hide evidence.

    No-one is above the law.

  20. #12920
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    The GOP warns itself that calling Bolton will immediately cause Trump to clamp down on executive privilege so hard you'd assume he was sitting on it. This battle would drag out the impeachment trial.

    Therefore, this train of thought goes, they shouldn't call Bolton to testify. Just let Trump win and hide evidence.
    I still don't get why people think executive privilege means anything. They can still walk up and give evidence and Trump can sit there and bitch and whine like I do.

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