1. #14061
    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    U.S. nationals, in many cases. Not Iranian nationals. In case you didn't know, your nationality is where you hold citizenship, not where you were born.

    One of the fundamental problems in this country with the conservative right is the sentiment that becoming a U.S. citizen isn't "good enough," and that you're somehow still not American enough. I'm surprised, if you are a brown minority in this country, that you haven't felt this idea that you somehow have to prove your American-ness beyond your citizenship.
    Born and raised here, lived on both coasts and also in the midwest. Never had that issue. Sorry if it bursts your bubble/narrative.

    It's almost like you guys are hoping for concentration camps just to say I told you so. Kinda like the crashing economy, war with NK, etc. Anything for a gotcha moment, I guess.

    But nah, the country is fine and the vast majority
    of Americans are not out for blood because you're brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Cool anecdotal evidence. And I'm a brown minority among many who have had no day-to-day issues since this admin took over.

    See how that works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Ask the defense team. Most questions have been to their respective "side".

    Doesn't matter though. Dunno if Roberts can do anything about it, and Republicans sure won't.
    Honestly, we already knew McConnell was coordinating with the White House, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Democratic Senators weren’t coordinating to some degree with the House Managers
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  4. #14064
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Born and raised here, lived on both coasts and also in the midwest. Never had that issue. Sorry if it bursts your bubble/narrative.

    It's almost like you guys are hoping for concentration camps just to say I told you so. Kinda like the crashing economy, war with NK, etc. Anything for a gotcha moment, I guess.

    But nah, the country is fine and the vast majority
    of Americans are not out for blood because you're brown.
    You have an established history of getting caught being dishonest--hope you don't imagine anyone will take you seriously on anything.

  5. #14065
    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Pastor Niemöller says hi.
    Nobody is coming for anybody.

    The fear mongering needs to stop, now.

    And now some likely anti Trumper drove their SUV thru Mar-a-Lago security. Cant get your way...resort to violence.

  6. #14066
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Yes, the memo to question Iranian born nationals returning from abroad in the wake of a sensitive international incident? Appropriate and hardly the concentration camps you all promised us would happen back in 2016.
    What is that even supposed to mean? Considering YOU HAVE concentration camps RIGHT NOW on your southern border

  7. #14067
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Born and raised here, lived on both coasts and also in the midwest. Never had that issue. Sorry if it bursts your bubble/narrative.

    It's almost like you guys are hoping for concentration camps just to say I told you so. Kinda like the crashing economy, war with NK, etc. Anything for a gotcha moment, I guess.

    But nah, the country is fine and the vast majority
    of Americans are not out for blood because you're brown.
    we already have concentration camps. wtf? also your a known liar on this forum. you have the same credibility as trump in that regard. well done mate.

  8. #14068
    If not for Murkowski heartily embracing the ratfuck, the revelation that Cippolone himself is a fact witness, and has willfully misrepresented facts multiple times, may have changed things. In any other trial, this would have caused an immediate mistrial. What a shitshow.

  9. #14069
    Rubio: "Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office."

    Well there you go, a summary of Sen. Rubio believes of the trial.

    So know it is "best interest" which of course mean if the President is on your team. Incredible that these Senators actually make this statement. While he is safe for I think 4 more years, just crushing that he is a Senator from Florida.
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  10. #14070
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    we already have concentration camps. wtf? also your a known liar on this forum. you have the same credibility as trump in that regard. well done mate.
    There's American citizens in them???

  11. #14071
    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Apparently you are correct, I did some googling as well, and it does seem to be immediate.

    While Presidents haven't been removed, Judges have, and they seem to stop being a judge the instant a charge passes the Senate. Example being Thomas Porteous in 2010.

    And yes I know Trump isn't getting removed, I was just curious.
    I know you know, you're one of the more thoughtful people on here, was just covering my ass against other replies because apparently that's important to me.

    Didn't think to check how impeachment functioned with regard to other roles, thanks for the info.

  12. #14072
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    True. And while Trump will almost certainly not be removed from office,
    1) he will still be impeached, so have fun with that on your resume, and
    2) it will forever stain his record that the case was dismissed by purely partisan tactics, such as "not hearing witnesses or evidence", like ketchup from an overcooked steak stains a cheap suit made in China.
    As a reminder, they had the exact same "overwhelming evidence" and "irrefutably proven facts" that the House Democrats had all voted to Impeach him on.

    To say that impeachment failed in the senate because there weren't the "witnesses or evidence" to prove it is to say that the House Democrats all voted to impeach for a partisan political agenda without the witnesses or evidence to back up their vote
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  13. #14073
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    There's American citizens in them???
    actually....yeah.

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...htmlstory.html

  14. #14074
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Looks like it has been happening for awhile, with a recent peak in 2012.

  15. #14075
    "Just because someone murders someone else doesn't mean it's in our best interest to put them in jail."

    The Republican argument is for rampant lawlessness.

  16. #14076
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    As a reminder, they had the exact same "overwhelming evidence" and "irrefutably proven facts" that the House Democrats had all voted to Impeach him on.

    To say that impeachment failed in the senate because there weren't the "witnesses or evidence" to prove it is to say that the House Democrats all voted to impeach for a partisan political agenda without the witnesses or evidence to back up their vote
    Yes, it was rushed and then they expected the Senate to do the rest of their homework.for them. Another example of Dems snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

  17. #14077
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    There's American citizens in them???
    This has nothing to do with concentration camps...

    So let me guess... you have NO clue what concentration camps are, do you?

  18. #14078
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Yes, it was rushed and then they expected the Senate to do the rest of their homework.for them. Another example of Dems snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
    This is nonsense and anyone who applies any sense knows why it happened this way. You know the courts take years. You know the charge is that he's working against this coming election. You know every impeachment trial has had witnesses that did not appear in the House, and I doubt you believe those Houses didn't do their work.

    Do you have any posts in this entire forum that don't hinge on pretending to be less intelligent than you really are? Because I don't want to imply for even one second that you're stupid. You're really not. But you seem to think you have to pretend to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Nobody is coming for anybody.

    The fear mongering needs to stop, now.

    And now some likely anti Trumper drove their SUV thru Mar-a-Lago security. Cant get your way...resort to violence.
    Trump has already been caught targeting U.S. citizens of Iranian heritage for questioning coming back into the country.

    Your open dishonesty is continually amusing.
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  20. #14080
    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    This is nonsense and anyone who applies any sense knows why it happened this way. You know the courts take years. You know the charge is that he's working against this coming election. You know every impeachment trial has had witnesses that did not appear in the House, and I doubt you believe those Houses didn't do their work.
    Nah the house had plenty of time to subpoena Bolton but chose not to. Saying "it would have taken too long" is bullshit. They could have easily expedited the process - that's a common thing to do in time-sensitive cases, there's more than enough precedent for it.
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