Watch Greta Thunberg tear these corporate douchebags apart in the question round

[PC2]

Raising emission standards, and removing regulations are all I need.

Okay well if you're claiming that air, water, and agriculture are going away then *data* is what I need.

[smityx]

Why do people even listen to a 16 year old?

For the same reason some listen and be conned by a reality tv show celebrity I'd guess.

[Queen of Hamsters]

For the same reason some listen and be conned by a reality tv show celebrity I'd guess.

No, they're listening to her message.
Her message is what brought her fame in the first place.

But, "celebrity" is far more benign than the other BS reasons people have for NOT listening I suppose.

[Orbitus]

Okay well if you're claiming that air, water, and agriculture are going away then *data* is what I need.

So, you don't know what happens when you dump more CO2 in the air, or when you dump coal slurry into the waterways, or when you use cancer causing chemicals on our crops? No wonder you are a Trump supporter.

[PC2]

So, you don't know what happens when you dump more CO2 in the air, or when you dump coal slurry into the waterways, or when you use cancer causing chemicals on our crops? No wonder you are a Trump supporter.

You realize you could take all of the anthropogenic CO2 emissions throughout history and then double it again and the air would still be perfectly breathable. It's only when it is emmitted in a very densely populated area and gets stuck in a weather bubble that it causes a big problem, eventually they dissipate.

[Orbitus]

You realize you could take all of the anthropogenic CO2 emissions throughout history and then double it again and the air would still be perfectly breathable. It's only when it is emmitted in a very densely populated area and gets stuck in a weather bubble that it causes a big problem, eventually they dissipate.

Coming from a liar like you? Highly doubtful.

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Orbitus never has any proof. He spits his liberal talking points and then disappears.

Fucking ironic hilariousness coming from you.

[Zython]

It's just a kid throwing a tantrum and,

Yes, how care she be concerned about total ecological collapse. How spoiled.

as fits her age and as was expected, puts forward no clear solution as to how billions of people are supposed to change the way they live without ensuing economic repercussions and the complete collapse of economies as we know them.

Because, as she correctly states, that's not her fucking job. That's the job of governments. She's protesting government inaction at the problem.

Fitting for a child, wild accusations and outbursts of demands are thrown around, all the while the child is blaming others for something said child partakes in.

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Her role is not to know something, she's here to cry "Wolves!"

So if the wolves aren't there, we don't need to barricade ourselves from the people fleeing them, correct?

[PC2]

Because, as she correctly states, that's not her fucking job. That's the job of governments. She's protesting government inaction at the problem.

Except governments aren't capable of preserving the ecological status quo, at least not if they want to remain relevant with the rest of the world that prioritizes growth over environmental pristine. Ultimately the growing societies set the tone for everybody else.

[Zython]

Except governments aren't capable of preserving the ecological status quo, at least not if they want to remain relevant with the rest of the world that prioritizes growth over environmental pristine. Ultimately the growing societies set the tone for everybody else.

1. It's not "environmental pristine", it's "preventing total ecological collapse".

2. This is an argument for degrowth and the total decimation of capitalism.

[PC2]

1. It's not "environmental pristine", it's "preventing total ecological collapse".

There's no reason to think that will happen though. What happens during times of change is the specialists species die-off and then the generalist species expand into the newly sparsified regions.

2. This is an argument for degrowth and the total decimation of capitalism.

There's the degrowth strategy and then there's the innovation(techno-fix) strategy. Innovation is the best strategy regardless of political will, but I'd also argue that realistically degrowth isn't even on the table because the math doesn't work out unless the degrowth is implemented in Africa and Southern and Eastern Asia. Which only the most hardcore environmentalists would have the audacity to suggest that.

[Tekkommo]

I've only seen her being attacked by Trump like supporters on social media.

I like to join politics, conspiracy pages etc. on FB because I like seeing the stupidity of humans, all the people I see attacking this girl are the same ones that are pro trump, or pro tommy robinson, pro boris johnson etc.

No idea why grown adults get threatened by a child saying to listen to climate experts.

Don't like how she's being used though, but it's the people who are giving her hate, are just giving her more exposure and extending her 15 minutes of fame. No one would be talking about her now if it wasn't for the mass hate she received.

[Orbitus]

I've only seen her being attacked by Trump like supporters on social media.

I like to join politics, conspiracy pages etc. on FB because I like seeing the stupidity of humans, all the people I see attacking this girl are the same ones that are pro trump, or pro tommy robinson, pro boris johnson etc.

No idea why grown adults get threatened by a child saying to listen to climate experts.

Don't like how she's being used though, but it's the people who are giving her hate, are just giving her more exposure and extending her 15 minutes of fame. No one would be talking about her now if it wasn't for the mass hate she received.

Because they think she is being used as a prop, not that she actually has these thoughts or feelings herself.

[Tekkommo]

Because they think she is being used as a prop, not that she actually has these thoughts or feelings herself.

I would target the people using her, not the child.

But at the same time, I wouldn't attack anyone for saying, listen to climate experts.

edit: Thanks for the link in your sig.

[Rennadrel]

I would target the people using her, not the child.

But at the same time, I wouldn't attack anyone for saying, listen to climate experts.

edit: Thanks for the link in your sig.

That's what I did, it got me banned for 2 weeks on a Reddit page. I find it reprehensible that people are using a child with Autism to try and push their agenda. Frankly, we don't need a child to tell us that our environment is fucked. That said, I find it funny how so many politicians are pro population growth yet they expect to reduce their environmental impact. You can't have both, it's one or the other. And if we have some population reduction, that's good for the environment, hell, there's a few countries that could do with going negative on their growth for a generation.

[Ghostpanther]

I have become such a fan of this girl for the mere fact she is pissing off climate change denies and the far right. It's such a joy watching people be so angry at a girl, the icing on the cake is when she just put Trumps tweet into her bio on twitter. xD

Give her all the awards...

She hasn't said anything which pisses me off. I do not take her comments serous enough, as a lot of the young, have a lot of growing up to do. Would not surprise me if she has a older adult proof reading her tweets.

[Yadryonych]

So if the wolves aren't there, we don't need to barricade ourselves from the people fleeing them, correct?

More like we don't need those yelling lunatics near our houses.

And if you meant the wall that stops immigrants, I'm pretty sure you don't let hobos in your house when it rains outside, I don't see why a nation should act differently, unless unemployment rate is negative and employers skyrocket salaries struggling to find a pair of capable hands

[Donatello Trumpi]

Because the wolves are there and you lot keep on ignoring them.

Hm, I dont see climate screechers attacking China, but conveniently ignoring it...

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Hm, I dont see climate screechers attacking China, but conveniently ignoring it...

No one ignores China.

[Orbitus]

Well, I mean, she is being used as a prop, so.......

You think she is being used as a prop, but maybe she is just smarter than the people that think she is being used as a prop. And not really surprising, coming from you that you think she is.

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Hm, I dont see climate screechers attacking China, but conveniently ignoring it...

China is at least attempting to reduce their emissions, we are not, Trump is making them worse. But then again, look at your bullshit signature.

[Orbitus]

What isn't surprising is you having no valid input into this thread other than "I know you are but what am I?".

There isn't much else to say to someone that doesn't know shit about what he is talking about. Which if you didn't know, that is you.