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    Is Blizzard trying to destroy mythic raiding guilds?

    So for raiding guilds which have already cleared the raid there is no point in raiding anymore.
    The gear you get in EP is useless with the next raid because the next season of m+ gear will have an ilvl of 460+, azshara drops no mount and the raid and classes are not that fun to justify raiding every week for the next 3-4 months.

    The question is: Are raiding guilds forced to either suffer through the next months or to risk a guild disbandment? Because we all know that there are some players who will never come back online if they stay offline for too long.

    Half serious question that is.

    Also you may think things like: "nobody is forcing you to play" or "Lol, my ret pally is super fun to me."
    If this is the case I kindly ask you to go to the next thread. This is about mythic raiding and if you dont understand the basic rules of it then what are you doing here?

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    Is Blizzard trying to destroy mythic raiding guilds?
    Yes. Specifically yours.

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    No.

    /10char

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    How is this any different than what happened in Legion?

    It doesn't matter what the next season of M+ gear will be. It caps for the start, and the cutting edge guilds will still want their advantage at the start.

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    You're implying all a mythic raider does or want to do is raid.

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    No.

    Blizz is putting exactly as much effort into the game as they think will keep enough people subbed. They don't care about mythic raiders any more or less than anyone else filling Blizz coffers.

    TBH, this is what so many people claimed to want. They didn't want to have to level characters through older content from the same expansion, you didn't want raids that took very long, you pretty much just wanted to get to the meat of the bosses...and you got precisely that.

    Foolishly, you never considered what that actually meant. In other words, you failed to heed the advise of being careful of what you wish for...you just might get it.

    And, thus, you have months of boredom waiting for the next content dump because you got what you asked for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exkrementor View Post
    The gear you get in (insert current raid here) is useless with the next raid because the next season of (insert random stats of next patch or x-pac here)
    Congratz, you might be 15 years late, but you discovered how the game works.

    Insert image of carrot on a stick here - btw an item that totally existed in WoW ...as if to rub it in your face

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    Yes. Specifically yours.
    Damn, you nailed it on the first reply

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    Does this not happen every single patch cycle though?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exkrementor View Post
    azshara drops no mount
    I thought Azshara was the mount. Aw man, this thread lied to me. https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...hara-hot/page3
    Quote Originally Posted by Daevelian View Post
    So this is how far the Lore forum has fallen? Eesh.
    I take it back, BfA is not the lowest the games lore could have gone, this thread proves that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    And just like the thread before it, let's back away from sexualizing Azshara and return to the original topic at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    Does this not happen every single patch cycle though?
    Well, before BfA, my gear from the last tier at least lasted for more than two days after the patch hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutri View Post
    You're implying all a mythic raider does or want to do is raid.
    All they do is raid raid raid no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    I thought Azshara was the mount. Aw man, this thread lied to me. https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...hara-hot/page3
    Have you seen how many crappy "champions" she has? I doubt those got their position based on battlefield skill...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exkrementor View Post
    So for raiding guilds which have already cleared the raid there is no point in raiding anymore.
    The gear you get in EP is useless with the next raid because the next season of m+ gear will have an ilvl of 460+, azshara drops no mount and the raid and classes are not that fun to justify raiding every week for the next 3-4 months.

    The question is: Are raiding guilds forced to either suffer through the next months or to risk a guild disbandment? Because we all know that there are some players who will never come back online if they stay offline for too long.

    Half serious question that is.

    Also you may think things like: "nobody is forcing you to play" or "Lol, my ret pally is super fun to me."
    If this is the case I kindly ask you to go to the next thread. This is about mythic raiding and if you dont understand the basic rules of it then what are you doing here?
    So it sounds like your guild is having a bit of an issue but you are still farming mythic content which is nice that's okay

    So the next raids mythic content will have and item level 460 like you said but the heroic content will b at the current mythic gear level also you want to make sure to farm enough gear because I have no doubt that some of your raiders don't have gear covering the benthic pieces that will be useless next tier

    If you have players wanting to quit right now ask your raid leader if they think that now would be an appropriate time for a short break because that can save your guild

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    Does this not happen every single patch cycle though?


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    This is a new thing. In older expansions gear you got from the last raidtier was usefull for the next one. Sometimes even further than that. EP gear and especially
    Benthic items are completely worthless when the next m+ season comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmightyGerkin View Post
    All they do is raid raid raid no matter what.
    I mean that's got to be a joke we have some mythic top World guilds currently taking a break until the next tier is at least announced

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    Shouldnt you, oh most elyte player, take this time to:
    Take a break.
    Gear up whatever fotm alt you can.
    Do something else ingame.
    Get in the ptr to try next raid things so you can showcase your mad skills to the world.

    Believe it or not you dont HAVE TO do anything you dont want to do in this video game.

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    Mythic raiders is too small playerbase so blizzard dont rly care about this group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exkrementor View Post
    So for raiding guilds which have already cleared the raid there is no point in raiding anymore.
    The gear you get in EP is useless with the next raid because the next season of m+ gear will have an ilvl of 460+, azshara drops no mount and the raid and classes are not that fun to justify raiding every week for the next 3-4 months.

    The question is: Are raiding guilds forced to either suffer through the next months or to risk a guild disbandment? Because we all know that there are some players who will never come back online if they stay offline for too long.

    Half serious question that is.

    Also you may think things like: "nobody is forcing you to play" or "Lol, my ret pally is super fun to me."
    If this is the case I kindly ask you to go to the next thread. This is about mythic raiding and if you dont understand the basic rules of it then what are you doing here?

    Imagine thinking blizzard designs their game off the 1%, because that's exactly what the % is of guilds who clear mythic, 1%. The world first race was started by players, blizzard doesn't care. If every mythic player quit, blizzard would lose a very small % of their player base

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    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    I mean that's got to be a joke we have some mythic top World guilds currently taking a break until the next tier is at least announced
    Mine was just an attempt at a parody of the song "all I do is win" by Dj Khaled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exkrementor View Post
    This is a new thing. In older expansions gear you got from the last raidtier was usefull for the next one. Sometimes even further than that. EP gear and especially
    Benthic items are completely worthless when the next m+ season comes out.
    So you seem to forget that items from the eternal palace regardless of them not being 15 item levels higher or still pretty strong the ink pod and the razor Coral are two of them

    Also if when you think about mythic raiding you're only thinking about the gear then you have an issue because it takes more than gear to clear a mythic raid

    The 445 gear that you get from mythic is fine compared to mythic plus where you only get one really high item level piece per week if you raid simply for drops then farming is worth it but if your guild doesn't find it worth it then take a break man that is probably the best thing in order to keep the guild together

    however if you are not the real leader or you are simply one of the players who is only motivated by gear and you figure since super high level dungeons will only reward you the only meaningful gear thus you should not do mythic raid farm even if you have alts that might need gear then maybe you shouldn't do it

    and if you don't have alts then kindly move along to the next thread because this is about mythic raiding and if you don't know how it works then please move along

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmightyGerkin View Post
    Mine was just an attempt at a parody of the song "all I do is win" by Dj Khaled.
    yeah I kind of figured that but honestly with these forms you can never be sure

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    Gear is a means to an end. Granted, benthic was lame and took up several slots.

    Go back and farm the Jaina one. No skip sucks, but it is what it is. KJ didn't have a mount either, and the game survived.

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