Will the Forsaken die out?

[qwerty123456]

They are sentient, have their own thoughts, speak of their own accord and exhibit free will...

a bit more than mere rotting corpses but thank you for showing how you boil them down to JUST that.

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you define life as your existence is to procreate... that's fine if that's your interpretation, but that isn't the be all end all and you saying anything different is wrong is incredibly, arrogant, pompous and well... rubs me the wrong way. You then make points that boil down to "well tough shit your luck ran out so you don't deserve to exist anymore" is also troubling to me. Why does this not hold water to discuss the resultant cursed entities that turned into something else? Apparently only because those other alterations fit with your bias and you argument to refute is that you find my argument for 'corpses' is wrong. You are the one stripping the group of anything beyond their physical appearance and disregarding everything except for your idea of biological imperative.

One could possibly argue that undead shouldn't exist as they are evil. They take beings that already have a spirit and warp them causing them to be slightly different then they once were personality wise while also keeping their former memories forcing them to live a miserable existence that not even they themselves want(at least most of them). And once these poor miserable souls can finally truly die they are sent to a hellish afterlife all because someone wanted more people like themselves. They don't even give people the option to become forsaken they choose for them. Had they been going around offering undeath it might be another story but they don't. And this is a world with magic do you really think they could find a way to talk to the spirits of the dead before raising them? So even if the living wouldn't take the offer there are plenty of dead who probably would.

The only other "races" like that are demons and worgen and the only worgen that run around converting people are those who haven't been "purified" of the rage and cannot think or reason properly. And even then as far as I am aware you aren't doomed to some horrible afterlife when you become a worgen.

I don't believe this I was just playing devils advocate as there are plenty of Forsaken/undead who don't go around trying to "recruit" more.

[mickybrighteyes]

One could possibly argue that undead shouldn't exist as they are evil. They take beings that already have a spirit and warp them causing them to be slightly different then they once were personality wise while also keeping their former memories forcing them to live a miserable existence that not even they themselves want(at least most of them). And once these poor miserable souls can finally truly die they are sent to a hellish afterlife all because someone wanted more people like themselves. They don't even give people the option to become forsaken they choose for them. Had they been going around offering undeath it might be another story but they don't. And this is a world with magic do you really think they could find a way to talk to the spirits of the dead before raising them? So even if the living wouldn't take the offer there are plenty of dead who probably would.

Considering the Forsaken really lack the means to create undead except for the Valkyr, and their original recruitment was finding random corpses that 'woke up' it seems this should largely be directed at the entities capable of 'crafting' undead rather than the undead themselves.

[InTheEnd]

Hopefully they do. Just because they are not controlled by the LK's ramblings does not mean they are suddenly desirable individuals. They are beings who should be dead...

[qwerty123456]

Considering the Forsaken really lack the means to create undead except for the Valkyr, and their original recruitment was finding random corpses that 'woke up' it seems this should largely be directed at the entities capable of 'crafting' undead rather than the undead themselves.

they do that on the orders of the leader of the forsaken.

[mickybrighteyes]

they do that on the orders of the leader of the forsaken.

And who exactly has the power and ability to perform the process? It's not exactly a common skill

[Seylene]

I've always found them boring as characters and a miserable existence, but by that same merit there will always be people in the story setting that crave to cling to existence no matter how painful it might be. WE have seen it with the Lich's and Necromancers before and I am sure the forsaken if they take the cult of forgotten shadow and simply offer it towards whomever wants to cheat death would likely keep enough volunteers to keep their population around. They likely won't grow all that much but outside of a concerted effort at extinction they should be stable. Just from what we have seen the desire to continue is not just around but semi common.

[Combatbutler]

YOU, exist, to pro-create. That is your purpose in life, and any other living organism's from a heliocentric point of view, on the most biological level, whether you accept that or not, the human race exists to pro-create and keep the race going.

While this might be true for the real world, it is most definitely not true for the warcraft universe, life is not necessary, in fact the whole creation of the universe was nothing but an accident. The humans, dwarves, Orcs and gnomes in particular are pretty much just machines, broken machines at that, no longer fulfilling any kind of purpose.

[Kyphael]

While this might be true for the real world, it is most definitely not true for the warcraft universe, life is not necessary, in fact the whole creation of the universe was nothing but an accident. The humans, dwarves, Orcs and gnomes in particular are pretty much just machines, broken machines at that, no longer fulfilling any kind of purpose.

True, but in nature, as the saying goes, "life, uh, uh, finds a way." In their "cursed" new existences, they found a way to fit into Azeroth's ecosystem, and that's evolution.