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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by BrianCa View Post
    So I was in BRD runs and a Moonkin was getting harassed by our healer saying the moonkin was a waste of a group slot
    The healer is right, moonkin is pretty bad at damage.
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    and telling the moonkin to reroll Resto if she ever wanted a group.
    Resto druid is top tier, they should definitely reroll resto.
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    She told him that she likes playing the game how she wanted before getting kicked
    She can play the game how she wants, other people like your healer will play it like they like too......sounds like they like to play it without boomkins.
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    and the healer told me and others to blacklist her.
    Thats up to you, that healer isn't your dad....you can do what you want.
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    She was topping dps chart though. Why do people hate moonkins so much?
    The hell were your other dps doing?
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  2. #82
    In vanilla we had 2 offspec druids healing from mc-aq40 I was one of them. No one berated us, but the Raid leader brought us specifically for our auras. LotP and Moonkin Aura. I remember when I joined they purposely went back ran ZG for the fishing pole so I could catch up.

  3. #83
    Ppl are dumb. Ppl take dps comparisons from raids at 60 and assume that matters for 5 mans while levelling.

    Take rets for example. Shit dmg in raids. Actually pretty good damage in the lower level 5 mans plus the buffs they bring. Also have rez so you can bring a druid healer.

    Mage does great damage in raids. In lvling 5 mans they do good dmg too but drink after every pull. So if you have a decent healer, and other classes with good mana sustain or melee, they arent actually a good fit for your group.

    I'd take a moonkin over an elitist priest healer anyday.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by BrianCa View Post
    So I was in BRD runs and a Moonkin was getting harassed by our healer saying the moonkin was a waste of a group slot and telling the moonkin to reroll Resto if she ever wanted a group.
    She told him that she likes playing the game how she wanted before getting kicked and the healer told me and others to blacklist her.

    She was topping dps chart though. Why do people hate moonkins so much?
    Moonkin are...not good but the healer here was clearly elitist jerk. If someone deserve blacklist it is him
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  5. #85
    It's almost as if Classic is actually a shitty game with shitty class balancing but I guess as long as you get your rocks off on nostalgia lmao.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicIsTerrible View Post
    It's almost as if Classic is actually a shitty game with shitty class balancing but I guess as long as you get your rocks off on nostalgia lmao.
    Imagine hating the fact that ppl enjoy a game so much that you have to create a troll account with a username announcing how much you hate the game. Then you specifically go to the fan website of the game, into the specific sub forum, just to post about how much you dislike the game lmao.

    You know you can just play a different game right? And no one is forcing you to look at classic wow content.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicIsTerrible View Post
    It's almost as if Classic is actually a shitty game with shitty class balancing but I guess as long as you get your rocks off on nostalgia lmao.
    People still claiming it's a nostalgia trip, yikes.

    It's just another MMO version than BfA is, one which some prefer. Me included. Yes class balance is so fucking bad it's a joke, but so what?
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  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by netherflame View Post

    The hell were your other dps doing?
    Moonkin can do competitive DPS until they go oom. For nearly all 5 mans no fight lasts longer than the 2 mins, so the moonkin will be as competitive as a mage who chooses to drink to refresh mana between pulls.
    What are you willing to sacrifice?

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    To answer the question....they run out of mana. They were called Oomkins for a reason originally.

    As for the healer? Fuck that guy.

  10. #90
    Same reason people dislike elemental shamans or ret paladins, they're completely useless in raids. It's better for morale to have a vacant slot than to bring one.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Acolyyte View Post
    Assholes are everywhere. However, Classic is far better than retail in terms of community and people helping one another. You can carry this torch if you want, but the simple fact is that Classic has a much healthier and positive vibe than retail does at this moment in time.
    This forums are full of nonsense and pseudo psicologists.

    Games dont transform people. People transform games.
    If one guy is a troll in retail he will be a troll in classic and vice versa.

    Classic community is not better. Its the same guys in all games.

    A guy helping you out in classic will help you in any other game as long there is interaction.
    What retail lacks is interaction...meaningfull.
    It does not have worse community.

    And looking at the recent generation of gamers... The grass doesnt look greenier anywhere.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    I've ran dungeons with ret pallies and feral dps with no issue. They're not exactly challenging as most wipes are due to bad pulls. Hell a friend of mine apprantly did strat with a 2h warrior tank (arms spec ai think). Surprised anyone is that picky with dungeons.



    If you're doing 40 man, yeah dead spots would hardly be noticable. Our guild is currently doing MC and Ony as a 20-25 man. The leader is not taking bad specs.
    While I still think that's taking Classic far too serious, but it's more understandable. I think it's pretty ridiculous to restrict until at least phase 5, but I get it's setting precedent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauzhi View Post
    This forums are full of nonsense and pseudo psicologists.

    Games dont transform people. People transform games.
    If one guy is a troll in retail he will be a troll in classic and vice versa.

    Classic community is not better. Its the same guys in all games.

    A guy helping you out in classic will help you in any other game as long there is interaction.
    What retail lacks is interaction...meaningfull.
    It does not have worse community.

    And looking at the recent generation of gamers... The grass doesnt look greenier anywhere.
    Not when there is consequences. If you group with a guy in retail. It's more than likely you will never group with him again. Classic your community is much smaller.

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanegasi View Post
    Every spec that doesn't do well in the cutting edge raid scene (which doesn't exist in classic yet) is persecuted by idiots throughout the entire game.

    "You're a ret? Useless. You're a boomy? Useless. You're arcane? Useless. You're sub? Useless."

    People that say this and other examples are toxic garbage. Most of these asswipes are also never going to be in a cutting edge raid either. Every single talent configuration is "viable" in every part of the game that isn't a raid boss.

    Your healer should be blacklisted.
    And to be fair,every class is still good enough for most raid bosses anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianCa View Post
    So I was in BRD runs and a Moonkin was getting harassed by our healer saying the moonkin was a waste of a group slot and telling the moonkin to reroll Resto if she ever wanted a group.
    She told him that she likes playing the game how she wanted before getting kicked and the healer told me and others to blacklist her.

    She was topping dps chart though. Why do people hate moonkins so much?

    One can absolutely handle it better than that group. But the fact remains, Moonkins ARE trash, and having one is a waste of a spot. And if the moonkin top the charts, the other dps are just insanely bad.

    I would personally never invite a moonkin for any content. But I wouldn't be rude about it ofc.

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopsnacker View Post
    They can't use their spells as they are OOM in barely seconds else and do even worse damage.

    They can't use their dots in raids because of the few dot slots that are possible and they do less than othes classes dot's. (Same reason you can't play Affliction in raids).
    This is kind of a Myth I know most people are playing Affliction lock and raiding topping meters.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Hauzhi View Post
    This forums are full of nonsense and pseudo psicologists.

    Games dont transform people. People transform games.
    If one guy is a troll in retail he will be a troll in classic and vice versa.

    Classic community is not better. Its the same guys in all games.

    A guy helping you out in classic will help you in any other game as long there is interaction.
    What retail lacks is interaction...meaningfull.
    It does not have worse community.

    And looking at the recent generation of gamers... The grass doesnt look greenier anywhere.
    Well said. People think those who play classic are some kind of saints that left the game when TBC came. Truth is that a big portion of the classic playerbase are those who plays, or recently played retail. And the level of toxicity hasn't changed one bit since the early days of WoW.
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    Moonkin must be the most prejudiced Vanilla spec. I'm at 60 for nearly two weeks now and I can tell you that after like 40-50 various dungeon runs I've NEVER EVER met a SINGLE Moonkin. Not even ONE.

    I myself play a Spriest, but I've been through MC already and, luckily, had no problem finding dungeon and raid groups (though couple of times I did hear bad stuff about my spec). But still, there are several SPs who are active at the moment. We even had a Ret doing MC and even winning stuff! But no Moonkin. Nada.

    I am tempted to make one. Just to piss off elitists and douchebag minmaxers (people I dislike the most).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ermelloth View Post
    Moonkin must be the most prejudiced Vanilla spec. I'm at 60 for nearly two weeks now and I can tell you that after like 40-50 various dungeon runs I've NEVER EVER met a SINGLE Moonkin. Not even ONE.

    I myself play a Spriest, but I've been through MC already and, luckily, had no problem finding dungeon and raid groups (though couple of times I did hear bad stuff about my spec). But still, there are several SPs who are active at the moment. We even had a Ret doing MC and even winning stuff! But no Moonkin. Nada.

    I am tempted to make one. Just to piss off elitists and douchebag minmaxers (people I dislike the most).
    Since you need 40 to run MC and since it is lolMC, you can run with any spec (including some level 59s) just to make up the bodies. As classic progresses and things become actually less braindead, specs like Ret, Oomkin, SPs, Enh etc are going to be left behind (except maybe as filler if guilds dont have 40).

    But come Patwerk, if you are playing Ret on Patchwerk, then your guild is seriously carrying you mate.

    That being said, no need to minmax till Nef (BWL) or even AQ40. But are you willing to wait that long wasting days of playtime on a class that will eventually be useless? Rather reroll now than 6 months down the line.
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  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by tmamass View Post
    Clearly the healer was the problem not the moonkin.
    since when is rooting not a "real" forn of cc?.

    Since it can't be used inside and that pretty much makes it impossible to use in dungeons, thus useless?
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  20. #100
    Ive had a few oomkins from our guild in some of my parties, its not really a big deal to bring them for dungeons since nothing lives longer than 30 seconds anyways. They dont slow a group down any more than a mage does with all the drinking so not really a big deal to me.

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