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  1. #141
    As a raider with a casual raiding schedule (max 5-6 hours a week) I utterly despise raids with so many bosses. That usually just makes progress on the harder difficulties a giant pain in the ass since half your time is spent on farming old stuff, especially towards the later bosses in the raid.

    Not looking forward to the next grind either.

    I think the story could be interesting though, at least I hope it is. There is still a twinge of fear that the overall impact of N'Zoth on the story will be next to non-existing, since the next expansion clearly does not rely on it or Blizzcon will be some awkward spoiler fiasco.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Hauzhi View Post
    The real question is... Does it need a replacement? Cant just go away?
    No it can't. Without it, there is absolute fucking zero replay value.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    No it can't. Without it, there is absolute fucking zero replay value.
    Replay value should be to farm armour sets and weapons, rings, trinkets etc

    They just need to remove rng from gear stats and make stuff as used to be.

  4. #144
    Lol.. there is no new zone and classes are still the same... patch is garbage

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Hauzhi View Post
    Replay value should be to farm armour sets and weapons, rings, trinkets etc

    They just need to remove rng from gear stats and make stuff as used to be.
    Or they can just things as they are. I like having non-zero replay value on raids and dungeons. Farming different armor sets/rings/trinkets has zero value to me.

    I like that going M+ and raid isn't a complete waste of time.
    Last edited by kaminaris; 2019-10-10 at 05:16 PM.

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbreed View Post
    Just saying, feels great boys and girls, good vibes, this looks like great content with the end of titan forge!

    Great time to enjoy WoW everyone!
    It's not the end of titan forge. It is only being modified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbro View Post
    "We are excited about the idea of embracing the old god threat this time around to replace titanforging with something a bit different, something a bit more twisted and corrupt" yes, its going away, as he said REPLACE TITANFORGING, what a good time to be alive, good riddance.
    Replace does not = remove. Titanforging will still be a thing, it is just being re-worked.

  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guildenstern View Post
    Just read the comments. Every other poster is like a Japanese schoolgirl-type of excited for 'furries'. Looking at both your furry avatar and signature I feel you know exactly what I'm talking about.
    I feel that I know you're behaving like an idiot.

    My avatar being a cat, not an anthropomorphic cat mind you, a legitimate fucking cat illustration, does not make me a furry. And I guess all feral and guardian druid players are now furries too? Because that's what my signature illustration is. A druid bear.

    Jesus Christ.

    For what it's worth, my avatar is from a comic a friend of mine did called "Bear & Kitten" years ago.


  8. #148
    Guess I’ll have fun leveling professions, archaeology and battle pet farming on my new vulpera because fuck the endgame. I’d rather faceroll MC for the umpteenth time on Classic than level up YET ANOTHER piece of gear, especially as someone who (used) to keep a nearly equally geared co-main around since BC.

    I’m not opposed to grinding but the neck isn’t fun. WF/TF isn’t fun (and I won’t hold my breath on them completely removing TF since they seem married to that cancer). No badges isn’t fun. KMMO levels of RNG and no realistic BiS goal isn’t fun. All of this crap made me retire from mythic raiding.
    Last edited by Fumu; 2019-10-10 at 09:03 PM.

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    It's not the end of titan forge. It is only being modified.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Replace does not = remove. Titanforging will still be a thing, it is just being re-worked.


    GREAT! Right? Don't let negative vibes ruin it for you man, enjoy this moment. Change is coming.

  10. #150
    as far as i gathered. Its not confirmed that they are replacing titanforging is it ? he only said they were going to look into it
    Last edited by dlaY; 2019-10-11 at 03:29 PM.

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    More or less happy.

    huge raid +
    mage tower/chromie crossover +
    restored vale +
    huge N'zoth +
    auction house +

    no zone -
    no dungeon -

    races - predictable
    titannope - sorry, I'm not min-maxer.
    It's nothing like mage tower though. Its more like withered training 2.0. Grindy as hell, arbitrary "difficulty" created by a stupid insanity drain mechanic you have to overcome by grinding out cloak level/talents instead of skill. Will make playing alts even more screwed as it's another lengthy character locked grind that rewards power level.

    Mage tower 2.0 would be awesome. Unfortunately this is not that.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by mythicowow View Post
    It's nothing like mage tower though. Its more like withered training 2.0. Grindy as hell, arbitrary "difficulty" created by a stupid insanity drain mechanic you have to overcome by grinding out cloak level/talents instead of skill. Will make playing alts even more screwed as it's another lengthy character locked grind that rewards power level.

    Mage tower 2.0 would be awesome. Unfortunately this is not that.
    Mage Tower wasn't grindy? I remember very well grinding AP, gear, right (or sometimes any) legos, consumables and these stupid shard for extra attempts, doing Argus on every char (and I get 36/36) to unlock world bosses and schedule my real life stuff around video game (member Mage Tower finished on Tuesday? I member).

    So I will be fine with grinding , all depends how difficult it will be on launch, they may retweak this several time during PTR. Thanks for testing BTW, I want fresh experience on patch day.

    Also I wonder how long it would be, many people enjoyed both withered training and chromie, but both was just too short.

  13. #153
    This is the WoW community. No one is ever happy.

  14. #154
    Have a baby and will soon go to philippines. Yes Im happy. And classic is nice, hope D2 remaster comes then i will be truely happy

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by owbu View Post
    No Alpacas. Litteraly unplayable.
    Alpaca mount models are datamined. In several different colors! If they're not the vulpera race mount, then that implies we might get them FOR BOTH FACTIONS!

    Even the thought of that fills me with joy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daevelian View Post
    So this is how far the Lore forum has fallen? Eesh.
    I take it back, BfA is not the lowest the games lore could have gone, this thread proves that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    And just like the thread before it, let's back away from sexualizing Azshara and return to the original topic at hand.

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbreed View Post
    GREAT! Right? Don't let negative vibes ruin it for you man, enjoy this moment. Change is coming.
    I am fine with change. But you are going to be unhappy when Titanforging is still in the game, but just works differently. And people will still complain about it.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    I am fine with change. But you are going to be unhappy when Titanforging is still in the game, but just works differently. And people will still complain about it.
    I won't be, I love WoW, I think people mainly complain to complain, obviously Classic proves people just embrace a grind to "think" they are doing something different, guess what, MMO's are grinds.... Weird right??? And if Blizzard hides the best possible gear behind the hardest possible content people will just play Classic where things are easy.

  18. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Repeatable solo challenge which probably will be how we gear characters? Sign me up. Gonna spend a lot of time there.
    You're not though. Because the cost to get in there doubles every single time you enter. It's time-gated. As is everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    PS - you might want to update your sig, since the player you are quoting was long ago banned for being a troll and trouble maker.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyky View Post
    PS - you might want to spend more time researching why he's actually banned. Most of the time it's because his opinion doesn't line up with the opinions of threads he posts in and because the mods of this forum are most of the time a joke and just instantly ban people instead of actually looking at the reason.

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    At first glance:

    Good
    • AH revamp. Praise the Loa, it was about time.
    • New ARs. Although I have the feeling that Alliance got the short end of the stick, again.
    • Reusing old zones instead of cramping everyone into a fish bowl or a literal dump. More "invaded " zones would have been better, though.
    • Raid looks dope, especially for a disgusting Lovecraft sucker such as myself.

    Bad
    • More mandatory grinds: AP, essences, mini-talent tree, legendary cloak. And here I was thinking that the reason they got rid of dem pretty Artifacts to replace it with the blandness heart of Azeroth, was because the former were too alt-unfriendly
    • Invasions 3.0 - they sucked ass in Legion, sucked ass in 8.1 and will probably suck ass in 8.3 as well, unless there are major differences in how they are implemented.
    • RNGforging is here to stay. Still, more details about the "voidforging" system would be welcome.
    • Another warfront. Seriously, they seem to be one of the least welcome features ever, why insist with it? Btw, wasn't the damn faction war over, by now? The HC Darkshore warfront appears to have been scrapped. A smart decision, if you ask me.

    Undecided
    • Horrific visions. So far, they have very little of Mage Tower and too much of the Withered Training scenario, which I was never particularly fond of.
    • No new dungeon. Dungeons this xpac have been quite lacklustre compared with Legion's, with few exceptions. Maybe a new dungeon would have been refreshing... But again, SotV in Legion was almost universally hated, at least in my experience.

    All in all, a quite run-of-the-mill patch, with a couple of potentially interesting features.
    Last edited by Soon-TM; 2019-10-12 at 01:25 PM.
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  20. #160
    So I’m not seeing where this mage tower is, does this mean unobtainable awards after this expansion? Just trying to figure out if I need to log in. Lol

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