(spoilers) New leader of Goblins

[Shiza]

Shhh, don't tell the European that his socialism is collapsing Europe, despite America paying the bills since WW2. It will never stop being funny that all these "capitalism is bad" types can't understand corruption, crony capitalism, and that there's literally no pure capitalist economy on earth.

We created western culture. You made whatever the american south is out of it. So maybe I have a better socialization to judge economic systems and ideas.

[Varitok]

I'll look on the bright side of it. With the Horde leadership now being as shit as the Alliance one I'm not gonna be disappointed if they keep dumping on them. It actually has something relieving.

Anduin is a great leader and one of the only logically consistent characters in all of WoW.

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Shhh, don't tell the European that his socialism is collapsing Europe, despite America paying the bills since WW2. It will never stop being funny that all these "capitalism is bad" types can't understand corruption, crony capitalism, and that there's literally no pure capitalist economy on earth.

And you don't understand sarcasm and make ludicrous assumptions about others due to your politics.

"It's not REAL capitalism" Lmao, everytime. Pure capitalism is pure fucking cancer. Get your head out of your ass.

[Verdugo]

Anduin is a great leader and one of the only logically consistent characters in all of WoW.

Sure thing Christie.

[Combatbutler]

Shhh, don't tell the European that his socialism is collapsing Europe, despite America paying the bills since WW2. It will never stop being funny that all these "capitalism is bad" types can't understand corruption, crony capitalism, and that there's literally no pure capitalist economy on earth.

And you don't understand sarcasm and make ludicrous assumptions about others due to your politics.

Keep this drivel in the off topic section of the forum where it belongs, I would address Shiza too, but he/she is already on ignore.

[Syegfryed]

So, no. You don't know anything about your economic system and think that your boss at work is probably a benevolent deity.

dude, im just said sometimes rich people lost their money, their fortune and their "empire" in the business work, sometimes because they are enough scumbag to shot their own foot and lose everything or because they did wrong moves and someone else take their "empire", it was what happened.

must be shocking to you but in the real world, not every boss is a scumbag

And you don't understand the basics on which the Goblins as a race and a culture work from a narrative perspective.

i do, in fact, thats why i think Gazlowe fits well enough.

[Shiza]

And you don't understand sarcasm and make ludicrous assumptions about others due to your politics.

I mean, I understand the narrative foundation for the goblin race, which is to act as a satire of american capitalism. This is why they work as a joke race, because the joke has put some thought into it. Like, how they twist the whole shaman concept from being a nature focussed guru who has a pact with the elements of the world into them basically cheating elementals into shitty contracts. Or their priests being televangelists. So its fitting that their leader is a scummy, greedy billionair who basically does everything just in his own self-interest and somehow gets away with it. Putting some generic nice guy goblin at the top ruins the joke.

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dude, im just said sometimes rich people lost their money, their fortune and their "empire" in the business work, sometimes because they are enough scumbag to shot their own foot and lose everything or because they did wrong moves and someone else take their "empire", it was what happened.

must be shocking to you but in the real world, not every boss is a scumbag



i do,in fact, thats why i think Gazlowe fits well enough.

You still don't understand what the joke about the Goblins is and why Gazlowe doesn't really fits the joke.

[Feanoro]

We created western culture.

We being people who are not you.

You made whatever the american south is out of it.

A part of the country treated as captured territory for over a century?

So maybe I have a better socialization to judge economic systems and ideas.

Bravo, a magnificent display of illogical nonsense and irrational hatred based on your ill-informed politics. The arrogance of lecturing someone that they don't understand fictional characters based on your biases! As if Blizzard was capable of some deep and subtle parody like you suggest.

[Shiza]

Keep this drivel in the off topic section of the forum where it belongs, I would address Shiza too, but he/she is already on ignore.

I guess somebody most love genocide-is-a-okay-Anduin or toddlers with grandpa heads very much.

[zanotas]

The gallywix story was teased at the start of BfA. Along with many things missed by the community

[Syegfryed]

You still don't understand what the joke about the Goblins is and why Gazlowe doesn't really fits the joke.

maybe you want the goblins to be a joke race forever, in your conception of joke, but others do like the race in the wow lore, and he does fit.

Like one guy said before, he kinda have a vibe of Godfather and work like the mafia in BfA, you can stay with the joke of capitalism or wharever, but to me that was pretty cool and i would like to see more

[Logwyn]

We created western culture. You made whatever the american south is out of it. So maybe I have a better socialization to judge economic systems and ideas.

Are you really trying to spin that Europe is the great bastion of racial equality?

[Shiza]

maybe you want the goblins to be a joke race forever, in your conception of joke, but others do like the race in the wow lore, and he does fit.

Like one guy said before, he kinda have a vibe of Godfather and work like the mafia in BfA, you can stay with the joke of capitalism or wharever, but to me that was pretty cool and i would like to see more

Goblins are inheritly a joke race. That's their very nature. Taking away that from them would be like taking the dark, horror-elements from the Forsaken-, oh my god, Blizzard actually is doing that and lackwits are thinking this is outstanding storytelling.

And Gazlowe is so far the most generic and forgettable goblin character I've ever seen in my 12 years of world of warcraft. Can people stop acting like he is important or memorable, just because a friend of a friend of yours once told your friend who told you that Gazlowe was in, gasp, warcraft 3?

[Syegfryed]

Goblins are inheritly a joke race. That's their very nature. Taking away that from them would be like taking the dark, horror-elements from the Forsaken-, oh my god, Blizzard actually is doing that and lackwits are thinking this is outstanding storytelling.

they still can do jokes with then though, it was pretty fun when Gazlowee took the gnome by the neck

And Gazlowe is so far the most generic and forgettable goblin character I've ever seen in my 12 years of world of warcraft.

nah, i can think about a few more

Can people stop acting like he is important or memorable, just because a friend of a friend of yours once told your friend who told you that Gazlowe was in, gasp, warcraft 3?

he is doing stuff since WoD if you play the game, and character get more importance as he get focus, is what they are doing now.

[Shiza]

they still can do jokes with then though, it was pretty fun when Gazlowee took the gnome by the neck


nah, i can think about a few more



he is doing stuff since WoD if you play the game, and character get more importance as he get focus, is what they are doing now.

Really? Where was Gazlowe involved, which quests? He is kind of so generic and boring that I always keep forgetting if it was Gazlowe or some other random named Goblin.

[Syegfryed]

Really? Where was Gazlowe involved, which quests? He is kind of so generic and boring that I always keep forgetting if it was Gazlowe or some other random named Goblin.

like i said,e veryone is generic and boring and people never rly noticed until they start doing stuff, like, Gallwyix didn't even exist until cata

[Shiza]

like i said,e veryone is generic and boring and people never rly noticed until they start doing stuff, like, Gallwyix didn't even exist until cata

I mean, yeah, Gallywix wasn't created up until Cataclysm. Just as the old gods weren't created up until the AQ quest. Or Garrosh doesn't exist up until BC. What is your argument here?

[masterjc]

it depends on perspective

I as one played warcraft since WC3. know lore well. have done Wc2 and lord of the clans. etc
so Gazlowe is not unknown.
he was important in wc3 (more than Chen or Rokhan who were just sidekicks od Rexxar at the moment)
he was in Classic and was one of the goblin town leaders (everlook had none. booty had revilgaz. gadgetzan had chief of water company who was replaced by noggenforger in cata)
so he remained in Cata. and returned both in novels as supporting character (Shattering) and in-game (WoD. Legion invasions. BfA expeditions and story)

so one cant say he is useless and unimportant.

just he is normal Goblin (is neutral for profit. is friend for Horde leaders but money comes first. and uses horde vs Alliance to avoid conflict).
Gallywix was ok character but became favorite (at least for me) after short stories (autobiography and possible future in Blank Scroll)

also he had nice catchs with Geblin

none are bad. some might prefer one and others might prefer another

[Feanoro]

Just as the old gods weren't created up until the AQ quest.

First hints of old gods are in the original Darkshore quests, and we're supposed to slowly come to understand they exist before being confronted with the horrifying reality of C'Thun. Almost like Metzen read/ripped off Lovecraft.

[Syegfryed]

I mean, yeah, Gallywix wasn't created up until Cataclysm. Just as the old gods weren't created up until the AQ quest. Or Garrosh doesn't exist up until BC. What is your argument here?

that the character get as much importance as blizzard want, if he was not much before he can be now

[Aucald]

Let's pivot away from real-world politics and economics and focus instead on original topic of the thread.