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  1. #41
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    I am extremely disappointed in Blizzard for this. They should be embarrassed. They are in the wrong here and deserve all backlash coming their way. I hope there is a lot of it. I hope this story turns into something big and their decision hurts the image of the company as much as it deserves to be. Punishing someone for speaking out against authoritarianism is wrong.

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    This should be the lead post on MMO-Champion, not the content preview of 8.3.

    There was a time this site posted all things blizzard, now it just seems to be a corporate news release aggregation.

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    I will be boycotting Blizzard. I can't think of a single ethical business decision they've made over the past 5 years. I hope the company shrivels up and dies.

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    If anyone ever wanted to argue that there's still passionate devs and creative minds at blizzard and it's not just a gaming company like EA making shit tier products to grind money out of people no matter how low they have to sink, explain this thread then.

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    Jims video on it.

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    Its kinda funny how blizzard went really hard on pushing their image of inclusive and progressive company then they do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshadowhunter View Post
    https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1...962632193?s=20



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    How far have people fallen... A gaming company pleasing authoritarians just go get money.

    P.S.: What I find ironic is that South Park just recently had an episode about Chinese authoritarianism and global companies pandering to the Chinese market by willing censor themselves. As result South Park is now banned in China. I guess that's a point proven.

    UPDATE1:
    I started reading this thread just as outraged as everyone else. By the time I got to the end though, I had enough time to think about it from all perspectives and realized that a gaming interview is no place for politics and Blizzard was right to suspend him. Whether he decided to share his views on China or Trump or Israel or any other political matter shouldn't matter because he's not using the correct platform. Interview with the gaming company about the game you're playing. Then you can tweet or post or use any other platform to share your political views.

    That being said, this South Park episode shares my views on Chinese authoritarianism:

    https://southpark.cc.com/full-episod...1&sort=airdate

  9. #49
    Blizzard kowtowing to China and authoritarianism. Done with this company.

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    When it comes to politics the USA bullies other countries now. China will be doing that in the next few decades... let's keep giving them money! And we'll all probably be worst off for it.

    Fucking hate China, such a morally corrupt nation in every regard. Wish Governments had a fucking spine to stop dealing with them instead of just lip service.
    Last edited by Daedius; 2019-10-08 at 03:00 PM.

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    This is hilarious, I just saw the South Park episode on this topic last night and it couldn't be any more relevant.
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    Nothing wrong with what Blizzard has done here. He piggy-backed this event to politicize it, without the knowledge of the organizers and without their consent. Freedom of speech is a thing, yes. It is not your right to do it off the back of others making them unwilling participants.

    If people can't comprehend that this is why Blizzard reacted the way they did, then they shouldn't comment due to lack of intelligence and/or overwhelming levels of ignorance.

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    Nothing wrong with what Blizzard has done here. He piggy-backed this event to politicize it, without the knowledge of the organizers and without their consent. Freedom of speech is a thing, yes. It is not your right to do it off the back of others making them unwilling participants.

    If people can't comprehend that this is why Blizzard reacted the way they did, then they shouldn't comment due to lack of intelligence and/or overwhelming levels of ignorance.
    This, I wonder if everyone here is a kid. Imagine if everyone used these platforms to show political/religion support. Imagine if someone did the same to support sharia law or jihad. That is a Blizzard platform, not your channel.

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    Unacceptable.

    I was thinking of returning to WoW, thanks to Vulpera and general curiosity on what the game is now, but fuck that.

    Similar thing with Hearthstone. The recent single-player content have been fun. But I'm not going to support them for this.

    If they don't reverse this shit, I'm out. Blizzard is not going to get a penny more from me.
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  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeMeLaugh View Post
    This, I wonder if everyone here is a kid. Imagine if everyone used these platforms to show political/religion support. Imagine if someone did the same to support sharia law or jihad. That is a Blizzard platform, not your channel.
    As Jim said, the problem with this rule is that it's so vague that it's basically Blizzard deciding whether or not you've been naughty. That decision being whether Blizzard is willing to lose a few billion dollars they could've easily survived without OR side with a tyrannical government that doesn't give 2 figs about human rights.
    And they chose the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshadowhunter View Post
    As Jim said, the problem with this rule is that it's so vague that it's basically Blizzard deciding whether or not you've been naughty. That decision being whether Blizzard is willing to lose a few billion dollars they could've easily survived without OR side with a tyrannical government that doesn't give 2 figs about human rights.
    And they chose the latter.
    What i find it realy funny is how the recent south park ep kinda predicted this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukachu View Post
    Nothing wrong with what Blizzard has done here. He piggy-backed this event to politicize it, without the knowledge of the organizers and without their consent. Freedom of speech is a thing, yes. It is not your right to do it off the back of others making them unwilling participants.

    If people can't comprehend that this is why Blizzard reacted the way they did, then they shouldn't comment due to lack of intelligence and/or overwhelming levels of ignorance.
    The problem is Blizzard didn't react the way they did because he was using the event to politicize it. They did it because they were terrified of pissing off China.

    If you think they would have reacted this way if he had spouted some pro-LGBT nonsense then you're the fucking ignorant one. Yes he was in the wrong to do it in the first place, but it just illuminates how much Blizzard wants to stay in the good graces of probably one of the worst governments in the history of the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshadowhunter View Post
    As Jim said, the problem with this rule is that it's so vague that it's basically Blizzard deciding whether or not you've been naughty. That decision being whether Blizzard is willing to lose a few billion dollars they could've easily survived without OR side with a tyrannical government that doesn't give 2 figs about human rights.
    And they chose the latter.
    It's more complex than that. We have this perspective in the West, but a majority of their money actually comes from mainland China.

    Mainland China accounts for something like 40% of WoW's players, historically, larger than any other region. They are arguably more a Chinese company than an American one, despite being based in California.

    They are also accountable to their shareholders. They have a legal obligation to protect the company's financial interests. Expecting them, or any other company, to jeopardize that much money is simply naive.

    Expecting morality from any company is naive. Don't do it. They aren't your friends. They exist to sell you things.

    If this had been Riot or Valve, or even Nintendo, you can be certain the same thing would have happened.
    Last edited by Kathranis; 2019-10-08 at 04:09 PM.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Erbel View Post
    If you think they would have reacted this way if he had spouted some pro-LGBT nonsense then you're the fucking ignorant one.
    You have just as much proof, that amount being zero, that they wouldn't have acted the same way. But I guess that doesn't fit your narrative, does it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    It's more complex than that. We have this perspective in the West, but a majority of their money actually comes from mainland China.

    Mainland China accounts for something like 40% of WoW's players, historically, larger than any other region. They are arguably more a Chinese company than an American one, despite being based in California.

    They are also accountable to their shareholders. They have a legal obligation to protect the company's financial interests. Expecting them, or any other company, to jeopardize that much money is simply naive.

    Expecting morality from any company is naive. Don't do it. They aren't your friends. They exist to sell you things.

    If this had been Riot or Valve, or even Nintendo, you can be certain the same thing would have happened.
    This!

    The entirety of this story is "Pro gamer breaks event organizers pre-established rules and get punished for it". Thats the only fact that matters. Anything else is just looking for something to rage at, being idealistically naive to an absurd degree, or both.
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    All this complaining is simply further proof that Blizzard could send each and every player a real-life wish-granting flying unicorn carrying a solid gold plate of chocolate chip cookies wrapped in hundred dollar bills, and someone would whine that Blizzard sucks for not letting them choose oatmeal raisin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeMeLaugh View Post
    This, I wonder if everyone here is a kid. Imagine if everyone used these platforms to show political/religion support. Imagine if someone did the same to support sharia law or jihad. That is a Blizzard platform, not your channel.
    They don't care. It's just another "Let's find a way to bash Blizzard." thread. He broke the terms and got punished.

    I know the PRC is shit but as a company are you really going to say to 1.5 BILLION (aka more than the American and European Market combined) people. Sorry we're not going to let you play our games.

    Any company that is going to say no to china is basically failing as a company. There are over 7 billion people in this planet every single one of them should be able to get products. Even if the government is psychotic. Don't punish the people for act of the government.

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