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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Marrilaife View Post
    I know Preach isn't an authority to many, but it's funny how you guys argue about priest vs hunter and he just said hunter is gonna be the worst ranged class for Nyalotha and it brings nothing while doing sub par dps, while multi dotters are gonna be king again due to all the prolonged add fights, despite all the nerfs to multi dotters.

    And I dunno how people say "multi dotting" is hard, tab target exists, focus target exists, boss / important add frames exist, addons exist. If you want to tunnel 1 target and think multi dotting is awful, roll a mage instead? Fire is strong atm and zero nerfs to it, and it scales with gear well.

    Are you pulling mobs 1 by 1? Do you have crappy gear? Killing mobs 1 by 1 is bad on multi target specs, but you can do better if you kill few at a time. Priest can self heal and shield, vampiric touch has inbuilt leech, dispersion got buffed and you can spec into it being an emergency heal, personally I always found it easier to level a priest than a mage, maybe that's just me...

    Yeah ok it will never be a hunter, but they're notoriously noob friendly for levelling since vanilla. Demon Hunter, DK and ret pala are also up there in how auto pilot you can level them.

    Specs were never equal in levelling speed or ease, and literally when we talk about nerfing stuff like azerite traits that won't affect your levelling where you usually wear heirlooms until max level for bonus xp.
    Preach is 100% wrong. BM Hunter are one of the best DPS classes in the Game right now. Yeah you cant Multidot and pad the Meters thats true. but killing a Boss isnt always about how many Adds you can dot and with Nyalotha there seem to be a lot of Priority Adds that need to die = BM is perfect for it .

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by rips View Post
    Preach is 100% wrong. BM Hunter are one of the best DPS classes in the Game right now. Yeah you cant Multidot and pad the Meters thats true. but killing a Boss isnt always about how many Adds you can dot and with Nyalotha there seem to be a lot of Priority Adds that need to die = BM is perfect for it .
    In game right now?

    Absolutely not.
    Might they have a point to shine in Nyalotha? I'll believe it when I see it.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Marrilaife View Post
    And I dunno how people say "multi dotting" is hard, tab target exists, focus target exists, boss / important add frames exist, addons exist. If you want to tunnel 1 target and think multi dotting is awful, roll a mage instead? Fire is strong atm and zero nerfs to it, and it scales with gear well.
    Literally nothing in the game is "hard."

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by rips View Post
    with Nyalotha there seem to be a lot of Priority Adds that need to die = BM is perfect for it .
    The class plagued with pet pathing issues the best for killing priority adds? Definitely not.

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuroticaine View Post
    Literally nothing in the game is "hard."
    Sure, sure, that's why everyone clears mythic raids in the second reset.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Zka View Post
    Sure, sure, that's why everyone clears mythic raids in the second reset.
    Fair, but stacking an obnoxious amount of mechanics with extremely tight DPS windows is a little silly. It's only hard by a matter of numbers. 2 people dead and the whole raid wipes until they outgear the encounter. Even if 18 people played nearly perfectly.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Neuroticaine View Post
    Fair, but stacking an obnoxious amount of mechanics with extremely tight DPS windows is a little silly. It's only hard by a matter of numbers. 2 people dead and the whole raid wipes until they outgear the encounter. Even if 18 people played nearly perfectly.
    Yes big shocker to everyone, all you need to succeed in mythic is awareness of mechanics and skill at executing them, we are baffled and surprised by that revelation. That's like saying "medicine is only by a matter of remembering facts". Technically not incorrect, but also such a gross oversimplification it might as well be a non-statement.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Biomega View Post
    Yes big shocker to everyone, all you need to succeed in mythic is awareness of mechanics and skill at executing them, we are baffled and surprised by that revelation. That's like saying "medicine is only by a matter of remembering facts". Technically not incorrect, but also such a gross oversimplification it might as well be a non-statement.
    Are you purposely twisting things in order to be overly condescending, or does it just come naturally for you?

    They very clearly said 2 deaths, and you grossly oversimplified it to "just do mechanics " just before complaining about oversimplifications.

  9. #129
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  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Mardux View Post
    Are you purposely twisting things in order to be overly condescending, or does it just come naturally for you?

    They very clearly said 2 deaths, and you grossly oversimplified it to "just do mechanics " just before complaining about oversimplifications.
    I'm not sure what you mean. I was criticizing THEM for oversimplifying it to "just do mechanics", which is obviously an inane statement to make - hence my comment on medicine. Saying mythic is "only" hard because it's about everyone doing everything perfectly - while technically true - is about as helpful as the loading screen tip of "keep own HP above 0, reduce enemy HP to 0", and about as deep.

  11. #131
    Spriests were considered broken ever since voidform was introduced, a broken and unwanted mechanic. Surrender to madness only broke the game even further.

    Spriests became a niche spec, you were OP on 2-3 target fights but were horrible in M+ and single target.

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Zka View Post
    Sure, sure, that's why everyone clears mythic raids in the second reset.
    sure sure now take away methods/limits extreme class stacking and preparing by doing 100 splitruns buying 100000 boes etc.

    they will still clear the raid fast but not in 2 weeks

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by rips View Post
    sure sure now take away methods/limits extreme class stacking and preparing by doing 100 splitruns buying 100000 boes etc.

    they will still clear the raid fast but not in 2 weeks
    Dude you are lacking reading comprehension or you quote wrong person.

  14. #134
    Remember the days when blizzard didnt nerf X just because it was good, because at the end of the day having your BUFF UI Look like this that it basically prevented any sort of Melee/Ranged/Spec/Class stacking? Sure maybe 1 too many paladins and maybe 1 too many death knights, but Aura Mastery, Divine Sac and Deathgrip were all incredibly strong on this fight.

    MYTHIC DIFFICULTY WAS A MISTAKE.

    BUFF BLOAT WAS A CHECK AND BALANCE ON CLASS STACKING.

    UTILITY HAD VALUE.

    YOU DIDNT NEED TO SPEND HOURS FARMING RANDOM ROLL STATS JUST TO BE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE A LEADING EDGE PLAYER.
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