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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Spoiler alert: other people ruin everything.
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    Everyone makes good/bad impressions and everyone is responsible for their own path in this game. If you dont filter toxic or bad players out its on you and only you if your gaming experience suffers
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    Anyone remember those posts about how great and helpful the community was from a few weeks ago? Looks like it didn't last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ange View Post
    Friendlist?

    Everyone makes good/bad impressions and everyone is responsible for their own path in this game. If you dont filter toxic or bad players out its on you and only you if your gaming experience suffers


    Not familiar with the word 'everything' I see.
    The amount of people who are supposedly over WoW/hate WoW, yet continue to spend every day of their lives whining about it here on the forums, never fails to astound me.

    Obsession is bad, kids!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volatilis View Post
    No this isnt how vanilla was.

    Being on a server actually meant something, People remembered your name for good or bad.

    Your type of thinking is why retail WoW is retail WoW and no one wants to play it outside of whales and addicts and why they brought classic back to get the old school players back who actually want a good game/experience.

    Why be a decent person when you can just join LFR where no one gives a shit. If you want that WoW just play retail not classic.
    This is not vanilla.

    And doesn't matter how it was, you still part of a server, your reputation still matters, and you can do whatever you want as long everyone in your group know beforehand and is in common agreement with you.
    Ah, you think there is bias for ally? You merely adopted the faction bias. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see alliance have a nice thing until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but bullshit!

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  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Beerbill Society View Post
    This is not vanilla.

    And doesn't matter how it was, you still part of a server, your reputation still matters, and you can do whatever you want as long everyone in your group know beforehand and is in common agreement with you.
    No its not, its classic. The bastardized hybrid where no one can enjoy it anymore because the playerbase is worse than any online game ive played, and that includes MOBAS like dota/LoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ange View Post
    Friendlist?

    Everyone makes good/bad impressions and everyone is responsible for their own path in this game. If you dont filter toxic or bad players out its on you and only you if your gaming experience suffers
    Haha what? What logic is this?

    If i'm in a group and others ruin the run with their shenanigans, and I've wasted my time, I suffer, regardless of having them on ignore or not.
    If someone says something deeply hurtful and I consequently put them on ignore, the damage is still done and I suffer regardless.

    Some people are able to let anything wash over them -- insults, having 2-3 hours of their life wasted by trolls, and so forth -- but that's a rare trait indeed. Most of us get upset by it; whether we let it show or not.

  7. #67
    People that are too lazy to type out p-e-o-p-l-e, ruin it for me.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    Anyone remember those posts about how great and helpful the community was from a few weeks ago? Looks like it didn't last.
    At 60 it's probably a large majority of private server players. At least on my realm the masses are probably slogging through the 40's about now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablib View Post
    People that are too lazy to type out p-e-o-p-l-e, ruin it for me.
    Not sure if you're joking or genuinely that delicate.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post


    Not sure if you're joking or genuinely that delicate.

    I'm not "ruined", so in that sense I was joking. I can't stand morons. That wouldn't make one delicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdragon2 View Post
    you seem to have missed the point of my op, if you had read it you would have noticed that there were interested tanks BUT ONLY if i reserved their desired item for them
    I've read his post, and my point still stands, perhaps you didn't read my post.

    It's common knowledge that tanks and healers are in short supply, they have been for ages. At this point is about supply and demand, if you don't have the tanker you don't do the content, if you don't do the content you don't get the item, so or you level a tanker yourself or have one as a friend or guildie that would be willing to help you out.

    It's simple as that, people have no obligation to tank stuff for you because you didn't want to play a less desirable role.

    If you don't agree with them 'demanding' items or having reservations, you can always block or ignore them and find people who share your mentality.

    Make a post here crying about "player mentality in classic" won't help you.

    Again, the problem is not other people's attitude, is your own when they disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volatilis View Post
    No its not, its classic. The bastardized hybrid where no one can enjoy it anymore because the playerbase is worse than any online game ive played, and that includes MOBAS like dota/LoL
    Thankfully, you are a mature adult and understand that you are not required or obligated to play this game since you don't enjoy or stand people who do so and acknowledge that since it's a community driven game you can't avoid those people you speak ill of.
    Last edited by Beerbill Society; 2019-10-11 at 09:00 PM.
    Ah, you think there is bias for ally? You merely adopted the faction bias. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see alliance have a nice thing until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but bullshit!

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  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Beerbill Society View Post



    Thankfully, you are a mature adult and understand that you are not required or obligated to play this game since you don't enjoy or stand people who do so and acknowledge that since it's a community driven game you can't avoid those people you speak ill of.

    I got a month out of classic. Which is more than most games. So it wasnt all bad to be fair

    People were cool during leveling.

    Now im at the gearing stage I dont want to play with spoiled teens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    Spoiler alert: other people ruin everything.
    Pretty much *chuckles*
    While there may be nice and friendly encounters now and then (these are the sources of cool memories), most randoms I meet are so annoying that I'd prefer to play with scripted bots.

  13. #73
    Another one of dozens of dozens of people complaining, making threads that players doing X or Y ruined it for them.

    Well, once more, if what other people say or do 'ruin it for you', just stop playing, no need to blog post about it.

    Good riddance, geez.

    I've been doing multiple runs per day since classic release, and apart from the occasional complain about multiple players being able to roll on certain item (ex: ring from maraudon) and deciding on not going on that particular run, this is not an issue, at all.
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  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    Anyone remember those posts about how great and helpful the community was from a few weeks ago? Looks like it didn't last.
    One persons marred experience borne out of their inability or unwillingness to curate their own experience does not a poor community make.
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    This is the same thing as live to be honest. People don't want competition on loot, and/or want to stack groups to their advantage in order to maximize efficiency. The amount of reservations and such 15 years ago was minimal at best, people were just happy to get into a run and generally a lot of groups operated on loot rules of one blue per run.

    While we aren't in an age of hunters needing absolutely everything anymore (at least from what I've seen), people are far more aware of what's good for them and weigh it against the possible group they might be joining. If there's too much loot competition they won't go, and a lot of places have a massive amount of loot competition compared to before. Hybrids are still stigmatized but people are more willing to run them just to fill groups, so suddenly you have all of that leather that people usually thought was rogue gear split between shaman, paladins, hunters, warriors and rogues. People see this and suddenly reservations on loot skyrocket and people feel discouraged to even join the group. UBRS is probably the worst for this because aside from briarwood reed, there's absolutely no reason casters want to hit that instance up, so you're stuck with filling the group with melee in an instance that has a massive amount of drops (truestrike and dal'rends weapons being the biggest).

    Classic and Retail mentality are the same in one area though, peoples lack of willingness to actualy make their own group. If you see all these groups with reservations, just ignore them and make your own. It might be scummy, but people are willing to put up with shitty loot rules or reservations simply because they don't want the burden of making a group (trust me, most of these people making these groups aren't actually leading them or doing anything, aside from physically inviting people).

    I'd just stop worrying about it so much TBH. Make your own groups, avoid groups with massive reservations and just worry about actually finding/creating your own groups. Getting BiS gear is fine, but it's not like there's a massive rush to do it. MC/Onyxia are easy and classic has just begun, so neither are going anywhere.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdragon2 View Post
    that would actually be helpful advice if it was the case that, i could fill the grp with nothing reserved but it seems that ppl dont want to tank for a grp where they aren't guaranteed their desired item
    Those guys understand their value and while you'll probably spend the next 10 minutes searching for a tank, they can just whisper the next guy looking for a tank and have their demands met in 5 seconds. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this.

    You're not entitled to a tank neither are you entitled to be invited to a group or have another group have the same ruleset in mind concerning loot. You move on with your game and keep looking.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Ladey Gags View Post
    Welcome to 2019, where your average Westerner is merely an ego. We don’t live in the times of helping your neighbor for the sake of it anymore, we live in a me me me world now. Everything must have a reward. Productivity 100% of the time. Life is no longer to be enjoyed, it is something to be won. Get used to it or drown in disillusionment.
    There is nothing "average" about people who play classic wow. They are a subset of a subset of a subset of people.

    Also, the internet is not "The world we live in". It is exactly because it these interactions are on the internet and not in person that people behave more like asses than they would in the real world.

    Yes people do it in real life but in real life they are more restrained by the social consequences that are absent in a video game or posting on a forum or what the fuck ever.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdragon2 View Post
    no the idea for the guild i was in is to to level up get his gear and raid, but they just only helped themselves if i was lucky i got help form a mage and a rogue from my guild
    So you give up after one guild? lol, this is exactly my point.
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    Agree with much of the OP, it is kind of sad when whispers are totally ignored when you reply to their questions or ask for an invite when you fit exactly what their group is looking for.

    For me I don't give a shit if 4 clothies join me and need shit I need, I'm here to play the game. Got the Bonecreeper Stylus wand last night after 100 runs in Scholo, 3 us needed and I finally won the roll. Was told I was "lucky". In fact I'm actually extremely unlucky for it to take 100 runs but again I don't care, running dungeons is the most fun part of the game atm until BG's come out.

  20. #80
    Tanking in classic is stressful; people full nuking different mobs, no one CC'ing, people body pulling. If I decide to tank and I'm after a specific item you can be damn sure I'm going to choose the path of least resistance to it.
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