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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    Funny how the same companies have absolutely no issues with LGBT and SJW politics, but when the politics offend China, it's suddenly a problem.

    It's the hypocrisy that we have a problem with.
    Blizzard instigates those 'political' things with LGBT rights, not some random player who takes the stage to do an interview is the key difference.

    I understand your point and how it is hypocrisy, and hell I can't deny that there is hypocrisy in it all, but that doesn't change that the player broke the rules he previously agreed to. That's my only real take on it all and I guess that makes me a corporate boot licker lol.

    Companies have only cared about money since...forever. to act like this is some new phenomenon that Blizzard tried to save their bottom line in regards to China should surprise all of nobody, yet here we are.

    The outrage now is fake and irrational because it's just "the new thing" for the justice mob to reel over and next week they will have moved on to the next big outrage story, all while forgetting the people of Hong Kong just like they always do.

    Remember how upset and distraught everybody was over Puerto Rico and helping them when they lost all Power? Well that fad died down yet that entire island remained without power for many many more months but nobody gave a shit anymore cuz they moved on to the next thing. I fully expect the people of Hong Kong receive similar treatment from the justice mob on Twitter and social media

    My problem isn't with blizzard or riot as they are doing exactly as I expect them to: try to squeeze into some middle ground so as to offense as few people as possible so they don't lose revenue or sales. My problem is with the people typing on their iPhones how much Blizz is a hypocrite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacrass View Post
    But what when the games you play are already affected by politics and you don't even know about?

    The chinese market pretty much dictates what part of your game gets censored, it dictates in which kind of games will be invested first and foremost (do you not have phones??).

    Honestly, this is the real reason why people jump on this. The human rights aspect is just a bonus, a welcome trigger. Even if you don't care about HK one bit, you should be at least aware how that new and steadily growing market will affect YOUR hobby now and in the future.
    Onlything that I recall having affected WoW is the Pandaren speech.
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  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by shaunika123 View Post
    tournaments have been used for political reasons since the dawn of men.

    it's nothing new, that's where you have the most audience, and thats where your voice is going to be heard.

    if you're fighting for the freedom of your country, you're not gonna consider yourself with being childish, you're gonna consider yourself with reaching as many people as possible.

    and blitzchung succeeded in that.

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    lol, you're literally proving my point.

    we hear more because there are more people speaking up to bigger audiences.
    Im all for people knowing what is going on on the planet but i just find stupid that this case got so much uproar and the other protests people don't talk about.

    The point is Blitzchung knew that what he is about to do will get him banned and he wrote that in his statement.
    Blizzard did nothing wrong, and are getting a lot of hate right before a huge event (Blizzcon2019)
    People are screaming that Blizzard is sucking China's dick, even politicians are talking about that but they forget one thing. Americas biggest trading partner is China.
    These are America’s top trading partners for 2017, ranked by total exchange of goods:

    China – $636 billion
    Canada – $582.4 billion
    Mexico – $557 billion

    So its not Blizzard sucking China's dick, its all of USA.
    And people who want to boycott blizzard should understand if Blizzard looses the China money then they need to fire American employees and that is for all other company's that trade with China or make business with them.

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Varitok View Post
    Suppressing human rights isn't politics. Hate the lack of balls and complacency in the west. Fucking cowardly.
    It is politics when the free hong kong movement has started assaulting innocent people in hong kong who are peacefully showing their support of the chinese government there has being many cases were the civilian population has started attacking each other and first civilian v civilian which have being reported has being done by free hong kong movement. As such if you support the movement you support the assaults and if you support the police you support their assaults which both is bad as such it is best just to stay out of it.

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Terongor View Post
    It is politics when the free hong kong movement has started assaulting innocent people in hong kong who are peacefully showing their support of the chinese government there has being many cases were the civilian population has started attacking each other and first civilian v civilian which have being reported has being done by free hong kong movement. As such if you support the movement you support the assaults and if you support the police you support their assaults which both is bad as such it is best just to stay out of it.
    99% of those people don't assault anyone. A few exceptions sure, but mostly peaceful beings - showing their distrust in HongKong's government giving in to China's regime.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    God forbid video game companies ask for an environment free from politics so we can all enjoy the thing or event we came to enjoy.
    God forbid video game companies stop sucking Xi "pooh bear" jinping's dick.

    Do eighty million people have to die again like in WW2 before people stand up to this fuck?
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  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarious Tea View Post
    God forbid video game companies stop sucking Xi "pooh bear" jinping's dick.

    Do eighty million people have to die again like in WW2 before people stand up to this fuck?
    Tell me how many people who died there?

    There has being alot assaults and all that but not deaths really and not supporting or opposing is now supporting?

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Terongor View Post
    Tell me how many people who died there?

    There has being alot assaults and all that but not deaths really and not supporting or opposing is now supporting?
    China is doing far worse things than replacing the hong kong police with its military. It has been for at least thirty years.
    Do not ask questions for which you do not want the answers.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarious Tea View Post
    China is doing far worse things than replacing the hong kong police with its military. It has been for at least thirty years.
    So? still don't change that rioters are beating up people who are beating up people who disagree with them and people who are leading the riots hasn't shown that they disagree using violence against people who just disagree which makes them bad too so choosing between people who use terrorism and goverment who uses terrorism is like choosing between bad and worse. Best way is to not take part in the thing by not showing opinions.

  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    God forbid video game companies ask for an environment free from politics so we can all enjoy the thing or event we came to enjoy.
    Tell me about it. I've never hated an internet outrage culture movement more than this bullshit, people are beyond stupid.

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Terongor View Post
    So? still don't change that rioters are beating up people who are beating up people who disagree with them and people who are leading the riots hasn't shown that they disagree using violence against people who just disagree which makes them bad too so choosing between people who use terrorism and goverment who uses terrorism is like choosing between bad and worse. Best way is to not take part in the thing by not showing opinions.
    So you're trying to tell me that skirmishes between rioters and the Chinese military pretending to be Hong Kong police is somehow worse than the Chinese government harvesting organs, or running concentration camps for non-chinese minorities, or the thousands of protesters that were run over by tanks until the military had to literally use fire hoses to wash remains into the sewers in Tienanmen Square in 1989?

    DO YOU THINK THAT'S LESS BAD? You're disgusting. The world will be a better place if you removed yourself from it.
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  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    God forbid video game companies ask for an environment free from politics so we can all enjoy the thing or event we came to enjoy.
    There indeed is no place for politics in gaming. No one should be allowed to hijack a gaming event and use it spread their political views.

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    All the companies trying to ride this by saying they won't punish players are just blatant liars.
    At least Riot's honest.

    If you want a soapbox for your politics, build it yourself. Don't hijack gaming conventions and events ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasparde View Post
    You mean the same companies that couldn't hold their dicks when there was money to be made from gay pride day?



    This was basically every motherfucking company during that day. But sure, now we can't have political statements all of the sudden. And this has surely got absolutely nothing to do with Chinese relationships and is all just about respect and a good viewing experience.
    That meme makes no sense.

    If China called the shots, those things wouldn't have been allowed neither, China ain't exactly friendly to LGBTQ. I'm willing to bet that the crowd bringing that meme to life, take issue with those topics on a personal level, which simply confirms the hypocrisy.

    And have they really allowed anyone to use their platform to speak on those issues...? Wearing symbols are one thing, hijacking a broadcast to spread your political agenda is another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    I'm gonna ignore your conjecture and focus on this bit here. You honestly think that some limp-neck nerds holding signs or yelling lines at an esports event is going to cause Hina to fundamentally change their governing style?

    If you say yes, then I wish I shared in your naivety.

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    Wasn't that their entire point once upon a time?
    Its always been to get you to play so you spend money. Or so that they can sell ad time so they can make money.

  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarious Tea View Post
    So you're trying to tell me that skirmishes between rioters and the Chinese military pretending to be Hong Kong police is somehow worse than the Chinese government harvesting organs, or running concentration camps for non-chinese minorities, or the thousands of protesters that were run over by tanks until the military had to literally use fire hoses to wash remains into the sewers in Tienanmen Square in 1989?

    DO YOU THINK THAT'S LESS BAD? You're disgusting. The world will be a better place if you removed yourself from it.
    Rioters have attacked people who aren't police or military they have attacked people who have just yelled at the street something which disagreed with them. I'm not saying it is as bad I'm saying ofc both is bad but supporting too organization which do bad stuff is still supporting organization doing bad stuff and yeah chinese goverment is worse in this case but claiming moral high ground and supporting rioters beating up civilians who refuse to support them is far sicker than saying both are bad.

    Tianemen square would be same us bring up USA concentration camps during ww2 and somehow linking them to wat trump is doing meaning

    Did you read the order I wrote them in.... I clearly said chinese goverment is worse......

    Also ofc you are the first one doing personal attacks.

  16. #216
    It's a bit concerning that the 'community' doesn't seem to understand that politics (or religion for that matter) have no place in global platforms, like games in this scenario. Riot (and Blizzard to some extent) are right to try to keep such issues away from their global platforms, and they do their best to keep it that way.

    The same people up in arms because it's an agenda they support, would probably lose their minds if an 'opposite' agenda did the same.

    Get a grip guys. All this just makes it look like fake outrage for the same of, well, being outraged.
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  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by shaunika123 View Post
    obviously not, and it's not the point either.

    but what it COULD do is reduce the amount of bootlicking western companies do with the chinese if the backlash is big enough

    and that is at least something.
    You know what happens when you don't bootlick the Chinese Government? Who gets hurt from that?

    Because it's not the Chinese government.
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  18. #218
    Fact of the matter, is if any video game company has ever done anything that could be considered political and now are saying this shit it makes them hypocritical. They want to benefit of talking about politics that will get people to look at them favorably and make them more money, that's it. They're happy to talk about politics then, but not if it loses them money from their overlords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuafpr View Post
    a company doesn't want its platform used for political grandstanding.. color me shocked. You realize if they allowed one view they kinda have to allow others, right?
    They already do that? Just not in this case because China and losing money.

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    "Only politics I care and champion for should be allowed in the types of media I consume!" is the vibe I'm getting from some people here.. haha

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlae View Post
    but not if it loses them money from their overlords.
    You realize Blizzard makes ZERO money from the Chinese Government... Right? They don't have a single product or service that the Gov't purchases.

    If the CHinese Gov't bans WoW/League/Etc. the people who suffer most are the PEOPLE of China. The fans. The players. 'Catering' to the Chinese Gov't means allowing your fans to continue playing your game. So by advocating for Blizzard et al. to say 'Fuck you' to the Chinese Gov't, you're advocating to make a lot of Chinese PEOPLE unhappy and have further censorship enforced on them... Cool stance bro.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teffi
    You play a game for 20+ hours a week and you're "an addict".
    You sit on your fat ass eating nachos and watching men in tight pants throw a ball around for 20+ hours a week and you're "a man".
    Sometimes, I just can't even:
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx
    It's just an assertion, so it's neither logical nor illogical.

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