Emperor voice: Dew it
I have eaten all the popcorn, I left none for anyone else.
Aaaand... Riot goes on the boycott list, while simultaneously proving that corporations subject to Chinese government pressure are antithetical to freedom.
"In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)
But @Gasparde didn't try to demonize the gay community. They pointed out that gaming companies tried to cash out on supporting them, which they did in response to your point of "god forbid video game companies ask for an environment free from politics so we can all enjoy the thing or event we came to enjoy". Because them trying to have things both ways and profiteering off the LGBT community while silencing people in regards to Hong Kong because kow towing to China is all the rage right now (especially to a company like Riot owned by Tencent, which in turn has direct links to Chinese government) is nothing but hypocrisy on their part.
And that they get all political about things when they profit from while pretending politics don't exist if they don't is the difference between the two. Because other than that, guess what? Both LGBT issues and the plight of Hong Kong are human rights issues and they are not nearly as different as you tried to pretend in your cute little gotcha or remarks on how people refuse to see that. Other than companies' hypocrisy mentioned above, there's fuck all of a justification to treat those two differently.
And looping back to how your initial argument was "god forbid video game companies ask for an environment free from politics so we can all enjoy the thing or event we came to enjoy" good job moving the goalpost here. That act totally gives tons of validity to your position.
And why are they liars? Because they took a stance other than the god among companies Blizzard? Obviously if Blizzard's higher ups are spineless that means all higher ups of all companies must be too
How does your hypothesis you made no attempts to even begin to prove confirm anything? And remind me, how much of that support of LGBT during gay pride day was present on Chinese social media of Blizzard? Simply a stellar argument you got here
The chances that the outrage crowed even matches half of what china brings them is next to none. Like it or not, most of the games you like to play are funded under the assumption that they are going to be put in an environment to make as much cash as possible. If that can be done while keeping an open environment then grate, if not they will take the path that leads to the most sales, and hope that the damage is minimal elsewhere.
Funny enough as outraged as people seem to get over junk like this, I would bet that less then 20% would actually do anything about it, and even then the people who whine about blizzard or whoever shilling to china will still be happy to use google or apple or any number of other products that support them. That's why these outcries are truly worthless, people keep pointing pointless outrage at companies are just trying to survive in the ecosystem that spawned them. meanwhile the Chinese government will still be gassing a bunch of protesters who have no financial/physical backing from the rest of the world. Turns out your best wishes and boycotts of foreign companies don't mean much to someone who is busy getting beaten out on the streets.
On human rights violations.
"I don't want politics on my video-game event" is the stuff people that don't ever expect to go to a reeducation camp or get their organs harvested by their government say.
Not that I think all that will accomplish anything or that I would give Blizzard shit for shutting people down. Every big company ever (and some people) abides by the "It's just business" when it's about abandoning morality for monies.
Last edited by Dudenoso; 2019-10-13 at 09:54 PM.
Thats just USA politics. China does not agree. Lebanon does not agree. South Africa does not agree. Many other countries do not agree. Add on to that, MILLIONS of individuals do not agree. It is a FACT that there are NO HUMAN RIGHTS. That is not a real thing. Just projections from other governments and individuals.
When developers put money ahead of ethics, you know the gaming industry is fucked. They all seem to only care about those sweet China bucks rather than doing the right thing. They are so afraid of pissing off the Chinese that they won't be ethical in allowing players freedom of speech. Fuck China and fuck greed
"In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)
I love how people act like voicing your opinion on serious issues, or protesting, shouldn't inconvenience others. That's the entire point of a protest, to be an inconvenience so as to bring attention to an issue.
You probably would've been the white guy in the 60's telling MLK "I sympathize with your plight, but do you have to do your sit-in at this diner? Can't you do it somewhere else that won't bother anyone? We just want to have lunch, not worry about politics."
Originally Posted by Endus