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You can doubt all you want. But when People talk about "human Rights" they are 99% of the time talking about the "rights" they have in the Western Country they are from.
Very few non-Western Countries have the same Human Rights that Western Countries do. They may have a few but rarely do they cover the entire spectrum. It's the reason Western Countries are so highly sought after to immigrate to.
Uh huh. Your past posts clearly show this and free you from being seen as a hypocrite in any way, shape, form, or fashion. You're just here to outsmart all of us 'simple' posters.
OK, I believe you. Obviously not a hypocrite, and you clearly didn't complain about having an environment free from politics while bring politics into a gaming forum with your signature that's "just there to irk trolls". Uh huh.
For the record, I don't really care about your political opinion, because politics in America is treated like a spectator sport these days anyways, especially on the internet. I just thought it was ironic, given the context. And my friend, you have taken this to a whole new level, so thanks for that!
Last edited by therealbowser; 2019-10-14 at 12:24 AM. Reason: elaborating
That comparison is pretty weak. Protest at Blizzcon all you want. It will most likely only be seen as a disliking of the company alone. For the chinese government to change it will most likely take a civil war, a massive economic crisis or the entire political elite to kick the bucket.
Soloing Wotlk/Cataclysm/MoP/WoD
http://www.youtube.com/user/thststth/videos
http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/characte...alker/advanced
http://de.twitch.tv/nightst314 >>Stream<<
It's only weak to you because you're mad it's true.
People that use their platform to speak for what they believe in should be applauded, even if they are punished for doing so. I'm sorry you never felt such conviction in your life and instead would rather tow lines but some people won't.
Maybe you should change your signature so that your opinion actually aligns with your appearance? Frankly, I suspect you desire this, but I'm not here to make you feel bad. I'm just here to call you out on bashing this guy over politics while doing something similar with your signature. Who cares why, you still do it so it's still there. You can't pretend you don't. Sorry.
You are right that I am not talking about the topic at hand, here, but it doesn't absolve you of that fact. I do admit I shouldn't be making as big of a deal as I have been, but it doesn't change the fact that you are pretending to be superior and talking down to others while having a signature that's literally trollbait that is, ironically, being used in a way you didn't intend against you. I'd call that karma, to be honest.
Well, have a good one.
But that's countries. We're talking about businesses, that DON'T trade with China. Blizzard, Riot, et al. give NO money, goods, or services to the Chinese Gov't. These companies giving the middle finger to the gov't ONLY serves to hurt the company and the people; the Gov't isn't affected at all.
Sometimes, I just can't even:Originally Posted by Teffi
Originally Posted by Nixx
You missed the point again. Blizzard is private entity, so free speech doesn't apply to them when the message is delivered in their platform. There is no such thing as free speech in within private entities. These are the facts.
But I'm going to entertain myself and argue with what you just said. Earlier Blizzard has only supported Pride day which is celebration of people with different sexual orientations having same human rights. So is sexual orientation something that is political topic or basic human right?
What Blitzchung said on the stream wasn't about human rights. Hong Kong protests are about disputes between agreements of two regions, Hong Kong and China. At this point everyone should have read what the actual dispute and demands are so I'm not going to repeat those. I think we can all agree that there are human rights issues happening in Hong Kong but the main cause of those is political dispute rather than human rights issue.
Perhaps you didn't, but there are countless gamers that are either unaware (as its something on their periphery) or didn't have a more personal connection to the story, through a fellow gamer.
Either way, its irrelevant. As I said, here we are talking about it, increasing the visibility of the issue, that alone has some domino effects. For example, the NBA incident might not have caused that much of a stir however the NBA incident, with the South Park incident, with the Hearthstone incident all together present a credible case to politicians for increased scrutiny of China.
Finally, faux outrage on the part of a larger or more powerful group to feign solidarity with a less powerful group can still be a catalyst for change. I can't imagine *all* people who contributed towards civil rights legislation for example were enthusiastic street protesters, but they still contributed as it was *seen* as the right thing to do.
Well lets count countries which aren't western cultures and how many of those actually aknowledge and follow them. Most african countries really don't, russia doesn't, most of arabic countries doesn't, israel doesn't t equally, Indian is a mixed bag but most people don't really have the benefit of"human right", most of southern america has an extreme problem with human right, countries in Indochinese Peninsula have an extreme problem with human right and ofc china and north-korea. thats easily over half of the world.
So they maybe aknowledged by nearly every country but only western countries really follow them which makes "western human/citizen right" more or less.
Reading through this thread feels like Groundhog Day. Poster A points out that "politics (in China) and gaming are a no-no." Poster B says, "WELL BLIZZARD SUPPORTS LGBTQ THAT'S POLITICS HUH" Poster A replies, "Yes, but politics (in China) and universal support for LGBTQ rights are exclusive to one another." Poster B then responds, "YEAH CUZ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!! HAHA, I SEE THE STRINGS THAT CONTROL THE UNIVERSE, IT'S ALL MONEY"
And meanwhile, I'm just... shaking my head. I really feel for this community sometimes.
This thread has gone all kinds of off-topic left and right, plus heavy political discussion which isn't appropriate for this board. Closing this down.