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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Knaar View Post
    That wont happen. MMO's time is about over.

    At best something like monster hunter, but not a full scale mmo like wow.
    It ain't over till the fat lady sings. Keep in mind the genre was pretty darn obscure before WoW came onto the scene. Yes, the genre has been in its worst state since Nov 2004, but is still in a way better state than anything before that, where the biggest MMO only had a few 100k people.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by mvaliz View Post
    Totally bang-on correct!

    I mean, that's how WOW happened. Blizz wasn't no startup. They took a portion of their amazing profits from their Warcraft, Diablo and Starcraft franchises, and slooowly developed WoW over many many years.

    People seem to forget that Final Fantasy 15 and ES:O are also doing fantastic, they're flourishing and not going away anytime soon.

    It's these dumb doinks like the developers at Wildstar who thought it was a great idea to make a multi-milion dollar game from a startup funding salary that fell apart.
    Blizzard had investors sinking millions into Blizzard from day 1. It took alot more money that Blizzard had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbselle View Post
    and yet they're not even successful with shooter and mobile games.
    Hearthstone says hi. And Candy Crush Saga raked in $1.5 billion last year. (Yeah, Blizzard owns that game too).

    I would say at least half your statement is false.

  3. #83
    No.

    MMOs are in a weird spot right now, and it would actually be prejudicial for blizzard to have two competing MMOs.
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  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    Blizzard had investors sinking millions into Blizzard from day 1. It took alot more money that Blizzard had.
    Oh pish-posh... splitting hairs here... my point still stands about it being large companies that can produce MMOs, and very successful ones today.... and you damn well know that. ;P

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by mvaliz View Post
    Oh pish-posh... splitting hairs here... my point still stands about it being large companies that can produce MMOs, and very successful ones today.... and you damn well know that. ;P
    Then why imply that Blizzard was some small company that was scraping for years to make WoW with their own profits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyback View Post
    Look, Blizzard will never create an mmorpg that will serve as a direct competitor to WoW. It’d be a horrible decision.
    The years and money they put in development for Titan would say you're wrong about that. They certainly had it in mind to do just that and spent quite a lot of their resources on bringing it home before abandoning it.
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  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    Then why imply that Blizzard was some small company that was scraping for years to make WoW with their own profits?
    ...when did I call them a small company!? o_O

    Wasn't an implication at all. My implication was they became a big company (relative for its time) with the successes of WC 1-3, Starcraft and Diablo - and THATS when they started working on WoW, through successive successes to become the big company that they were at that time.

    I'd say the moment they went from "small" to "Large" was when WC1, maybe 2, did gangbusters. Again, relative to the time. Blizzard wasn't nearly as big as they are today as they were when they first started working on WoW.

    How the heck can you interpret publishing all those games and sequels as me implying a "Small company"? o_O
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  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by babyback View Post
    No one knows that Titan was supposed to me an mmorpg. Massive multiplayer sure, but not known as an mmorpg.

    It was also in developed when mmorpgs as the WoW format were in its heydays.

    Having two games were you need to put in a lot of time wouldn’t work.
    WoW doesnt require that much of a time investment anymore so another MMO in a different universe would be fine, it may also bring back people who have quit WoW as the numbers will continue to decline, there needs to be a new MMO.
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  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by MoanaLisa View Post
    The years and money they put in development for Titan would say you're wrong about that.
    Not really, as Titan theoretically wouldn't be a direct competitor to WoW, being an FPS MMO. Two totally different audiences when you get right down to it. Nobody at Activision said "Well, shit, we sure this Destiny shooting game set in space isn't going to cannibalize our sword-n-magic 3rd person game's audience?"

    Which, again, is why I'm believing they're going to resurrect Titan at some point, if not already, since they lost Destiny.

  10. #90
    Blizzard is never going to make an MMO for any other IP. It wouldn’t make sense lmao.

  11. #91
    This guy is literally describing that he wants wow... But with the name Diablo on it lol.. "Druid healers! Dungeons and tanks!" WoW.. You want WoW... That game is already out... In TWO forms Classic and Live lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvaliz View Post
    Not really, as Titan theoretically wouldn't be a direct competitor to WoW, being an FPS MMO. Two totally different audiences when you get right down to it. Nobody at Activision said "Well, shit, we sure this Destiny shooting game set in space isn't going to cannibalize our sword-n-magic 3rd person game's audience?"

    Which, again, is why I'm believing they're going to resurrect Titan at some point, if not already, since they lost Destiny.
    I very much doubt that they'll do anything with Titan or another MMO. Whoever it was that said MMO's are fading as a market is correct. Just like RTS games like Starcraft don't have much of a market any longer either.

    Hence where Blizzard is these days. Their tentpole IP games are all in gaming markets that are shrinking. So they do spinoffs. They can get by with that for perhaps a long time but they have really worn out their few ip's. Taking OverWatch towards more solo play will probably help that title a lot if that's the plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knaar View Post
    That wont happen. MMO's time is about over.

    At best something like monster hunter, but not a full scale mmo like wow.
    All an MMO is where you can play with large number of people. World of Tanks is an MMO. The world does not have to be persistent to be an MMO. There doesn't have to be RPG elements either.

    VR is just now being a thing everyone can own. I'm sure we haven't seen the best that VR could offer regard to MMOs either.

    Honestly, I think the future of gaming is more MMO style keep your avatar character etc. Kinda like Ready player one. Where you can log into a lobby and you and your buddies have a ton of games to choose from.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by mvaliz View Post
    Totally bang-on correct!

    I mean, that's how WOW happened. Blizz wasn't no startup. They took a portion of their amazing profits from their Warcraft, Diablo and Starcraft franchises, and slooowly developed WoW over many many years.

    People seem to forget that Final Fantasy 15 and ES:O are also doing fantastic, they're flourishing and not going away anytime soon.

    It's these dumb doinks like the developers at Wildstar who thought it was a great idea to make a multi-milion dollar game from a startup funding salary that fell apart.
    Actually, WoW amost didn't happen. The only reason it did was Vivendi pumping money into it.

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    You can be against a new WoW expansion all you want, your will doesn't stop the billions from being made off the game getting new content and continuation.

    And why make a new, risky leap with another MMORPG rather than put out the exact kind of Dungeon crawler that's been working for Diablo all these years...?
    If it did happen, it also wouldn't be called "World of", guaranteed.

    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Mmos time isn't over, what's over is bad mmos as classic is proving. Good mmos get played and praised.

    Stop regurgitating stupidity
    How about you peeps come again once Classic's been out for 2 years, mkay? Not that the praise is in any shape or form universal.
    That moment when you realize that MMO-Champion is home to a significant amount of people feeling depressed by being involved with World of Warcraft and Blizzard products in general. Yet they stick around and continue paying for said products... o.O

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    You can be against a new WoW expansion all you want, your will doesn't stop the billions from being made off the game getting new content and continuation.

    And why make a new, risky leap with another MMORPG rather than put out the exact kind of Dungeon crawler that's been working for Diablo all these years...?
    If it did happen, it also wouldn't be called "World of", guaranteed.



    How about you peeps come again once Classic's been out for 2 years, mkay? Not that the praise is in any shape or form universal.
    Don't worry, I will shove it down your throat again and again until you can't move goal posts anymore

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by babyback View Post
    Look, Blizzard will never create an mmorpg that will serve as a direct competitor to WoW. It’d be a horrible decision.
    What competition? WoW has, what, 1-2 million subs, if that? From their once 13 million+ subs..
    WoW will never hit the high numbers again, only a new mmo would do that, one day they need to replace WoW with a new flagship...

    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Wouldn't the name rather be "World of Diablocraft"? Or something more badass than "World of Sanctuary"
    World of Diablo = WoD, like Warlords of Draenor...no thx...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Don't worry, I will shove it down your throat again and again until you can't move goal posts anymore


    Insinuating that I'd allow that in the first place, how quaint. We all know just about how genuine you are at this point, I'm sure if they were to announce D4 as an MMORPG, you'd be in the new threads spouting views based on whether they'd be contrarian or not all the same. It'd be cute if it weren't so damned sad.

    And my point still stands. Suck it up.
    That moment when you realize that MMO-Champion is home to a significant amount of people feeling depressed by being involved with World of Warcraft and Blizzard products in general. Yet they stick around and continue paying for said products... o.O

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post


    Insinuating that I'd allow that in the first place, how quaint. We all know just about how genuine you are at this point, I'm sure if they were to announce D4 as an MMORPG, you'd be in the new threads spouting views based on whether they'd be contrarian or not all the same. It'd be cute if it weren't so damned sad.

    And my point still stands. Suck it up.
    Imagine being so biased as to think liking the idea of a diablo mmo is a contrarian opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Imagine being so biased as to think liking the idea of a diablo mmo is a contrarian opinion
    Haha!
    Imagine being so clueless as to not understand the meaning of the word "biased" despite putting it to use.

    /yawn

    Also, the tone of this thread is clear, hence one can say you're keeping up your track record just fine. In fact, not sure why you ever got dropped from my ignore list, but welcome back to it!
    That moment when you realize that MMO-Champion is home to a significant amount of people feeling depressed by being involved with World of Warcraft and Blizzard products in general. Yet they stick around and continue paying for said products... o.O

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