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  1. #181
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    Is it better than Titanforging? Not really. Is it more interesting? Sure. Does that make it a good system? No.

    No matter how I look at it, it just seems like an absolute pain to deal with. And if cleansing gets rid of both the corruption as well as the positive bonus, it just seems pointless altogether.
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  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    that system is in no way or shape optional.

    if you make fake claims like this it only shows you have not clue .

    every group will demand people with maximum possible corruption resistance and maximum possible corrupted gear. .

    and this means on top of ap farm you will be forced to farm coruption resistance shards or whatever currency it will be.

    add to this farming for sanity bonus on cloak

    means you will have 3 currencies that you will have to farm this patch.

    thats why people will miss tf.

    basickly now you have 3 systems to be farmed up or no content for you above lfr.

    have fun

    sincerly blizz :P
    groups below mythic wont require this and if they do then they are those try hard wannabes in the gorup finder asking for aotc but have players with benthic gear ungemmed

    this hyperbole never gets old as those groups only represent about 10% of groups at any point heck my raid team pugs pretty much anyone into heroic

    got an ilvl over 425 come on in

  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorpax View Post
    how is that putting down anyone
    Sorry it wasn't clear. I'm talking about the people saying they'll use gear with 60% increased damage during progression and healers should pop CD's to keep them alive and if other people don't they are just bad. It's obvious they are baiting but they just look really stupid saying it and that's amusing.
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  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Argorwal View Post
    Most people just want easy to understand, plain jane gear that is a clear upgrade just by looking it.

    Anything fun or interesting gets ruined by spreadsheet heroes blaming their gear on why they stuck at 3/8 after 4 months.

    Working together as a guild to balance out the effects for their specific group is labeled as boring/lame/unfun busy work that gets in the way of their spreadsheets.
    Stupid team work and communication getting in my way!
    But yeah, regardless of progression level you are right.

  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Is it better than Titanforging? Not really. Is it more interesting? Sure. Does that make it a good system? No.

    No matter how I look at it, it just seems like an absolute pain to deal with. And if cleansing gets rid of both the corruption as well as the positive bonus, it just seems pointless altogether.
    It's definitely not an amazing system just yet, but ill take w/e trash thats more interesting than titanforging, if you ask me i would've removed titanforged and replace it with nothing, but ill wait and see the tweaks this system gets (if it gets any) before coming to conclussions.

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Is it better than Titanforging? Not really. Is it more interesting? Sure. Does that make it a good system? No.

    No matter how I look at it, it just seems like an absolute pain to deal with. And if cleansing gets rid of both the corruption as well as the positive bonus, it just seems pointless altogether.
    so no doubt that most sites will work out how strong the bonus is

    now you will have a ratio of bonus=X ilvl and negative=-X ilvl

    the point is that you ahve the option to either make great plays with this and gain dps or decide "not worth it i will cleanse for the samller upgrade"

    heck you might even decide to cleanse it so you can use another corrupted piece

    this system gives a bit of an rng system but with a ton of choice

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Clash the DK View Post
    It wasn't "a lot" more HP. And the negative design absolutely put Fury at a disadvantage compared to all other melee. There is a reason why they walked that back.
    Yeah, because it was pretty pointless. It didn't change anything in terms of balance and was purely there for roleplayer reasons, but confused people like you. There's a reason it took an entire expansion for them to do it.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbro View Post
    And titanforging was fine right? lmao, at least this can be considered fun by plenty of people opposite to the boring trash that titanforging and its inflated ilvl was, ofc if you are bad then you can just cleanse the corruption and no one will care.
    Corrupt gear will be fun for the top end. Titanforging was fun for the lower end.

    Guess which end has more people?

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzhands View Post
    Corrupt gear will be fun for the top end. Titanforging was fun for the lower end.

    Guess which end has more people?
    And that matters because? low end people dont need any gear for the content they push, top end people do, so working as intended.

  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbro View Post
    And titanforging was fine right? lmao, at least this can be considered fun by plenty of people opposite to the boring trash that titanforging and its inflated ilvl was, ofc if you are bad then you can just cleanse the corruption and no one will care.
    titanforging was the same dogshit

  11. #191
    Yeah, I'm not that exited for it as well. It will probably be feast or famine situation, as always. I can imagine some specs not caring about corruption, as having to move away is not a problem, but less mobile specs... I'm sure people will math it out, but I can see dropping out of voidform even once during a fight cause of it completely invalidating any benefit from extra stats for a shadow priest.

  12. #192
    People complained (including my self) because WF/TF gear is too much rng?

    Blizzard's solution? - Replace 1 RNG with another RNG! HOORAY!

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    Just want to ad that to me it sounds like a great idea. Sounds fun and interesting! Unsure how it works but if you spawn an add that chases you and if it reaches you you take dmg/debuff/something, but if you outrun it and it despawns you gain a buff, then that's really cool. An active minigame, brilliant.
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  14. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by Craaazyyy View Post
    titanforging was the same dogshit
    No it isnt, corrupted gear gives me the option to customize my corruption amount considering the buffs i wanna keep on top of having another mechanic to deal with if i want to, while titanforging was just plain trash inflated ilvl, theres just no comparison and you are just blind if you cant see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbro View Post
    And that matters because? low end people dont need any gear for the content they push, top end people do, so working as intended.
    The low end funds the game, and titanforging was a way to keep them playing. People already complain about the drop in quality of the game, and the lower subs go, the more that happens. Subs aren't the only thing contributing to lower quality, you could argue the lower end themselves do, but if you really think Blizz would react to a drop in subs by catering to the hardcores still playing instead of the casuals that left, you're delusional. The more casuals leave, the more casual the game gets to try to bring them back, because they're by far the larger group of players, and making the game "harder" for the hardcore group has traditionally been a bad move (See: Cata launch heroics).

    Titanforging has a positive effect on the entire population regardless of what level you play at, even if there are draw backs to the system that doesn't mean the positives don't exist. It does suck that sometimes an item you don't need titanforges too high and you can't trade it in a raid, but how often does that really happen compared to how often people use their titanforges? Does it really matter that joe shmoe got lucky and has a few decent ilvl pieces even though he doesn't raid? His gear has no effect on you unless you're a petty bitch who gets jealous of pixels, but it makes him happier and more likely to keep playing. And if you happen to end up grouped with joe schmoe, he has better gear to make your run go smoothly. Now, when you get grouped with joe schmoe, he's going to have corrupted gear, and be performing worse, dragging your group down, and he's going to feel bad and eventually quit, and stop funding the game you want to keep playing.

  16. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by Tradu View Post
    Yeah, because it was pretty pointless. It didn't change anything in terms of balance and was purely there for roleplayer reasons, but confused people like you. There's a reason it took an entire expansion for them to do it.
    Use your head instead of repeating bad information you read on the internet. Spike damage was a problem.

    And they did address it during the expansion because the damage penalty was 30% at the beginning. But because the overall design was tied to the Artifact weapon, they couldn't completely walk away from it until after Legion.

  17. #197
    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbro View Post
    No it isnt, corrupted gear gives me the option to customize my corruption amount considering the buffs i wanna keep on top of having another mechanic to deal with if i want to, while titanforging was just plain trash inflated ilvl, theres just no comparison and you are just blind if you cant see that.
    i'm not saying it was the same system, i'm saying both systems are dogshit

  18. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by Clash the DK View Post
    Use your head instead of repeating bad information you read on the internet. Spike damage was a problem.

    And they did address it during the expansion because the damage penalty was 30% at the beginning. But because the overall design was tied to the Artifact weapon, they couldn't completely walk away from it until after Legion.
    How was spike damage a problem? Fury took 20% more damage(10% with talent) but had 20-30% more health thanks to an extra passive, an artifact trait and using 2 2h weapons.
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  19. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by Mashanerz View Post
    I kinda agree with you.

    If a RL tells you not to use your gear because the raid isn't good enough to deal with it....that would be kind of demoralizing for those in the group.
    Maybe you should replace such insecure players then. If your players are oblivious to the fact that they can improve, then they should maybe try HC instead of Mythic.

  20. #200
    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzhands View Post
    Corrupt gear will be fun for the top end. Titanforging was fun for the lower end.

    Guess which end has more people?
    Let me guess,let me guess.I will say Top End!As Blizzard is catering to them.
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