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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by yoma View Post
    If some people are running a game in higher fidelity than others, including models, spell effects, graphical effects, this one "tiny" oversight will morph into dozens of "tiny" other oversights. Someone running the game in (+) mode or whatever the hell one would call it, might have greater shadow detail (can see movement before someone w/o shadows enabled) or a greater view distance or a larger distance to render objects/models/player characters. Increased graphics = increased perception in the game world. Updated character models are the tip of the (+) iceberg and makes the entire concept ridiculous. If Blizzard ever entertains the idea, it would have to be an entirely different game separate from Classic, and they will not divide that community.




    When will people learn that "next argument" doesn't mean "end of discussion." He admitted that water graphics were a legitimate oversight and moved onto the next argument, as most reasonable people do. I then went into detail on said new argument and now we can continue into the next and so on. That's generally how forums work.
    It only effects people in PvP I would say so they could easily disable the extra detail in BG's, world PvP is a free for all and has no bearing on your PvP progression in meaningful way in Classic, even after the honor system comes in, no one gets to the best rank through world PvP and that is a fact. So there are solutions that are easy enough which would allow for greater detail in PvE.
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  2. #62
    Why are people falling for toffmcsofts shitposts every single time ?, the guy trolls this forum every day and probably gets a huge rise out of everyone responding.

  3. #63
    I expect a schedule for phases (many, myself included need p3 BGs at this point). I hope they give at least WSG at Blizzcon.

    Probably BC dungeon grouper to counter zoomer communauty and give a chance to rare DPS specs to get in dungeons.
    And finally hopefully a long list of bug correction. There are still many groundbreaking bugs out there.

  4. #64
    I want classic+. Badly.

    It’s just adding new quests, new raid(s), and dungeons.

    Basically a 0.5 patch situation.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by gleepot View Post
    havent you already asked this question a billion times
    If tinkers were able to become a class there's no question that Classic+ has a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toffmcsoft View Post
    If tinkers were able to become a class there's no question that Classic+ has a chance.
    Tinkers didn't become a class...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    It only effects people in PvP I would say so they could easily disable the extra detail in BG's, world PvP is a free for all and has no bearing on your PvP progression in meaningful way in Classic, even after the honor system comes in, no one gets to the best rank through world PvP and that is a fact. So there are solutions that are easy enough which would allow for greater detail in PvE.
    Oh, so it only affects ~half the player base. Ok. And prettier graphics have no bearing on PvE, so forget about them too.
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  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by yoma View Post
    Tinkers didn't become a class...

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    Oh, so it only affects ~half the player base. Ok. And prettier graphics have no bearing on PvE, so forget about them too.
    No, world PvP is not competitive so it does not need to be monitored. It will be coming, I sincerely hope they shadow drop it as an option, would you quit playing if they did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    No, world PvP is not competitive so it does not need to be monitored. It will be coming, I sincerely hope they shadow drop it as an option, would you quit playing if they did?
    They aren't going to disable certain graphics in BGs, that's even more of a pipe dream than Classic+ in the first place.

    That also isn't an argument. World pvp isn't competitive in Classic, instanced pvp won't be competitive in Classic, just like pve isn't competitive in Classic. Guilds cleared MC with 25 players in green and blue items. Nothing about Classic is competitive, it's just a ride through a nostalgic museum, which is exactly what it should remain. To change Classic in the ways you want, they would have to launch an entirely new Classic+ platform separate from what we have now, and as I've already said, they will not splinter that player base for such a silly reason.

    And no I won't quit playing, because it will never happen.
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  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by yoma View Post
    They aren't going to disable certain graphics in BGs, that's even more of a pipe dream than Classic+ in the first place.

    That also isn't an argument. World pvp isn't competitive in Classic, instanced pvp won't be competitive in Classic, just like pve isn't competitive in Classic. Guilds cleared MC with 25 players in green and blue items. Nothing about Classic is competitive, it's just a ride through a nostalgic museum, which is exactly what it should remain. To change Classic in the ways you want, they would have to launch an entirely new Classic+ platform separate from what we have now, and as I've already said, they will not splinter that player base for such a silly reason.

    And no I won't quit playing, because it will never happen.
    It will happen, mark my words. Now let us move on to the next subject.
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  10. #70
    Hopefully not.
    There are MAJOR announcements to make about the future of World of Warcraft.
    Last year was Classic's year.
    Not sure what there would even be to announce 3 months into the product other than the release date of phase 2 or whatever.
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    They'll talk about it for sure, but I wouldn't expect any announcements beyond dates for the next phase. BC Classic would be next year's announcement, most likely.

  12. #72
    Are the classic-people looking for a relaunch of all expansions or just TBC and wotlk? When will it end? Next time we get battle for azeroth? Holy shit this player base is confused...

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Are the classic-people looking for a relaunch of all expansions or just TBC and wotlk? When will it end? Next time we get battle for azeroth? Holy shit this player base is confused...
    nah the nostalgiaboiz are lacking entire hemispheres of the brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Are the classic-people looking for a relaunch of all expansions or just TBC and wotlk? When will it end? Next time we get battle for azeroth? Holy shit this player base is confused...
    They can just keep cycling through with new progression servers opening every couple years that start back at Phase 1.

    There isn't a good reason to just leave Classic servers on Naxx indefinitely.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by toffmcsoft View Post
    Any speculations on what we'll hear regarding Classic wow at BlizzCon?

    I'm thinking there will be confirmation that the Blizzard team is looking into:
    - Classic+
    - TBC
    - WoTLK
    Classic+:



    TBC/WotLK: Yes.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by toffmcsoft View Post
    So, most of the players you ask who are logged into Classic love the idea of Classic+ as opposed to TBC.
    Very confident that blizzard will be entertaining the community.
    Let's see those numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toffmcsoft View Post
    If tinkers were able to become a class there's no question that Classic+ has a chance.



    Let's just say "there's a chance"

    Let's also stipulate that "most" of the players want "Classic +"

    Everybody has their own idea of what "Classic +" should look like...so, who's idea is right?

  17. #77
    Classic + will never happen and the TBC expansion is too early to announce it. They will say about the next phase of classic and when will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    It will happen, mark my words. Now let us move on to the next subject.
    I'll just bookmark this thread for posterity's sake.
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    I hope they announce they'll be fixing what they've bugged on Classic and not add it to a "Not bug list"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by toffmcsoft View Post
    Any speculations on what we'll hear regarding Classic wow at BlizzCon?

    I'm thinking there will be confirmation that the Blizzard team is looking into:
    - Classic+
    - TBC
    - WoTLK

    We'll hear details on the success of classic along with an announcement for phase 2 and possibly a timeline for future phases.
    We gave you classic... enjoy it...

    expecting more is probably going to leave you heartshattered.

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