Originally Posted by
asil
For the record, aff is completely viable in 10s and 11s and 12s and 13s and 14s and probably even higher. I don't pug that much, but I did pug once like a month ago and played aff after convincing some noobs to take me and completely stomped them on overall damage. I did like 46k overall or something, which isn't amazing in a real group, but in small/slow pulling pugs is completely fine.
The reality is aff is fine for lower end keys, it's just trash in higher level keys but the player base tends to be stupid and not understand how much of a joke lower keys are, so they think only meta classes can do them.
The whole thing becomes more hilarious when you realize these people refusing to take off meta specs to +10s are doing like 25k overall dps playing havoc/outlaw.
To put it into perspective how easy low keys are, when we did alt keys last weekend and didn't have a healer. I went holy with no traits and 415 ilevel and we were 2 chesting 12s and 13s. Our DPS comp consisted of a 420 aff warlock, a 410 ilevel spriest, and a god damn BM hunter.
The point is, pugging in this game is awful and people have no idea what they're talking about or doing. Do you want m+ help OP? Join a decent guild.