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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Feanoro View Post
    Yeah, consistency be damned! Whatever they do, no matter how contradictory to previous material, is Right and Proper. Do not question Blizzard's divine will.
    It's not possible to have 100% consistency in a fantasy world this big with new content having to be added for the foreseeable future.

    Like, literally impossible. It would be stupid of them to pretend otherwise.

  2. #202
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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Well the problem is that is not what these books were meant to be and the whole style shows it, these books are all written from an omnipresent viewpoint, it simply can't be from the titans perspective.
    Well that certainly tells us a lot about how the Titans see themselves and their perspective hahaha. But seriously codifying indisputable truth with a capital T in your work is going to be very unrelatable because we don’t have that in real life.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    "There is another person on the other end of the chat screen. They're our friends; they're our brothers and sisters; they're our sons and daughters. Let's take a stand to reject hate and harassment, and let's redouble our efforts to be kind and respectful to one another, and let's remind the world what the gaming community is really all about."

    Mike Morhaime CEO of Blizzard Entertainment, Blizzcon 2014 (view)

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    That’s fairly common practice in any huge IP to always tell your story from certain points of view so that they can be questioned and flawed. Elder Scrolls books in game are written by bias characters covering the same topics with conflicting points of view. The Game of Thrones books are all POV with many of the supplementary written by Maesters. I’ve always found it immersing.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator
    Except the Chronicle isn't an in-game book. From the very trailer of Chronicle v1. the Chronicles were supposed to be "a series that attempts to codify, tighten up and clarify the history of Warcraft.". Essentially an encyclopedia of Warcraft lore.
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    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Slant is an extremist, willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone to keep his wet dream of the EU alive.
    You shouldn't support people like him, it's like supporting ISIS.

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    I don't know what to say. What the hell...
    Well I know what I will do, mocking their story for the trash it is XD

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    "Good news, everyone! We released three lore bibles that cover the lion's share of the overarching story to smooth out and clarify the official position on lore matters that have been subject to retcons, and you can reliably use this as a reference point going forward!"

    "Good news, everyone! Turns out we're full of shit, so our hack writers are cowering behind the excuse that Chronicle is not, in fact, a Doylist lore bible but is instead a Watsonian narration from the Titans' point of view, making it all overpriced, underperforming toilet paper as our hands are once again untied to retcon and rewrite whatever we please in order to push whatever hot takes our latest mediocre hack writers have grunted out in the company outhouse!"
    Be seeing you guys on Bloodsail Buccaneers NA!



  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Funny, since they used that flawed cosmic chart to explain the next xpack, they sure have style don't they? ;P
    They are basically undermining themselves in real time now. Could it be? Have they found a new low?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Slant is an extremist, willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone to keep his wet dream of the EU alive.
    You shouldn't support people like him, it's like supporting ISIS.

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    Well that certainly tells us a lot about how the Titans see themselves and their perspective hahaha. But seriously codifying indisputable truth with a capital T in your work is going to be very unrelatable because we don’t have that in real life.
    There is stuff in these books that predate the titans by millions of years, they could have easily worked with the chronicle, cosmic things in there were vague as hell in some cases, but this way out is just pathetic.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by tristannarutofan View Post
    its not a mistake.
    Chronicles was written 3 years ago as the definitive lore explanation for anything in it, that was its explicit purpose. Blizzard accepted peoples money for it and then walked back from that position. that's massively different from expanding on a snippet of lore from a decade previous
    I think that's a shit thing to do.

    Secondly, the cope in your post is palpable given you replied seriously to my facetious meme post with one of the joke arguments in my post

  9. #209
    What did they retcon?

  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by Nephys View Post
    What did they retcon?
    Their lore bible

  11. #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    There is stuff in these books that predate the titans by millions of years, they could have easily worked with the chronicle, cosmic things in there were vague as hell in some cases, but this way out is just pathetic.
    Eh, there’s stuff in my Geology book that predates the author(s) by billions of years, but it’s the best we’ve got so I’m accepting it.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    "There is another person on the other end of the chat screen. They're our friends; they're our brothers and sisters; they're our sons and daughters. Let's take a stand to reject hate and harassment, and let's redouble our efforts to be kind and respectful to one another, and let's remind the world what the gaming community is really all about."

    Mike Morhaime CEO of Blizzard Entertainment, Blizzcon 2014 (view)

  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    Yeah, consistency is such an idiotic concept.
    You can't have the kind of consistency you want in a fantasy world this big that has to keep adding new stuff for the foreseeable future. Doesn't matter how much you want it, it's not possible for any writer/game company.

    I'm sorry but you will never find a fantasy world this big that has the consistency you are demanding.

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Nephys View Post
    What did they retcon?
    now everything they retconn same as before, chronicle shouldnt be written at all then lol

  14. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohtra View Post
    It's not possible to have 100% consistency in a fantasy world this big with new content having to be added for the foreseeable future.

    Like, literally impossible. It would be stupid of them to pretend otherwise.
    Goodness me, I could have sworn those goalposts were right here. No one said any percentage, because their statement means Chronicles just went from The Definitive Version to yet another thing we can ignore on a whim. Errors can be forgiven, mistakes happen. When you announce that past canon doesn't matter, why should I be invested in your current offering?

  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohtra View Post
    It's not possible to have 100% consistency in a fantasy world this big with new content having to be added for the foreseeable future.

    Like, literally impossible. It would be stupid of them to pretend otherwise.
    Not having 100% consistency is a far cry from Blizzard outright undermining the whole premise of the Chronicles just to excuse their sloppiness and not even having to attempt writing a consistent story. I mean, it's not like something magically prevented them from retconning Chronicles before, they already did just that in regards to some things.

    Besides, you didn't talk about how it's impossible to have 100% consistency in your first post. You outright said that it's a good thing that Blizzard has an out to ignore previous lore when writing new material because the opposite would be them being "forced" into "a straight jacket". Which is a bogus notion.


    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    I don't know what to say. What the hell...
    There's only one thing to say. And that's a round of applause for Blizzard and their masterful writing that never retcons anything or suffers from any internal contradictions (at least that's what some posters tell me).
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Slant is an extremist, willing to sacrifice the lives of everyone to keep his wet dream of the EU alive.
    You shouldn't support people like him, it's like supporting ISIS.

  16. #216
    they basically insulted themselves and those who bought them.

    I really wanted to buy them.

    good thing I didn't.

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by roahn the warlock View Post
    It's more like "This Baloon is Red" "Now it's Magenta" "Now it's Maroon"
    those are very different shades!





    ..... 50 shades <.< >.>

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    Eh, there’s stuff in my Geology book that predates the author(s) by billions of years, but it’s the best we’ve got so I’m accepting it.
    There is also stuff in there the titans could not have witnessed, since they got their asses handed to them and were stuck in titan keepers.

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    Not having 100% consistency is a far cry from Blizzard outright undermining the whole premise of the Chronicles just to excuse their sloppiness and not even having to attempt writing a consistent story. I mean, it's not like something magically prevented them from retconning Chronicles before, they already did just that in regards to some things.

    Besides, you didn't talk about how it's impossible to have 100% consistency in your first post. You outright said that it's a good thing that Blizzard has an out to ignore previous lore when writing new material because the old lore and that the opposite would be them being "forced" into "a straight jacket". Which is a bogus notion altogether.
    I'm sorry but you just aren't going to find any writer/developer who can create a world that is not what you would call sloppy. Literally, you will not find it.

    The only mistake Blizzard made was hinting the Chronicles were some end of all lore development. This is fixing that mistake.

    You're just going to have to accept the reality of fantasy world building and move on.

  20. #220
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    I bought chronicles.......

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