Do you think Khadgar should come back in Shadowlands?

[tommyhil622]

I don't think Khadgar needs to show up everytime there's a crisis but i think he had his time to shine in WoD and Legion especially. However, it would be a tad more realistic if he had a minor role so that we don't assume he has his legs up on his porch ignoring possibly the greatest threat ever to not only Azeroth but every realm/world connected to the shadowlands and beyond.

[Eurhetemec]

I don't think Khadgar needs to show up everytime there's a crisis but i think he had his time to shine in WoD and Legion especially. However, it would be a tad more realistic if he had a minor role so that we don't assume he has his legs up on his porch ignoring possibly the greatest threat ever to not only Azeroth but every realm/world connected to the shadowlands and beyond.

Yeah it'd be good to avoid the "Elminster problem", that being "The world is doomed, why isn't Elminster helping?". Khadgar hasn't really been shown to have "somewhere else to be" yet, and it seems like he'd get his sticky fingers STRAIGHT into this pie. So some kind of indication that actually he's dealing with some shit or maybe he polymorphed himself into a raven and can't turn back or something would be good. I will accept the latter especially if we get a sarcastic raven pet out of the bargain.

[Nero Duskwind]

Now that the Alliance and Horde have mostly entered into a truce do you think Khadgar should come back as a main character in Shadowlands?

No. For all intents and purposes, Bolvar and the Knights of the Ebon Blade serve the same purpose in SL that Khadgar and the Kirin Tor did in Legion.

[tommyhil622]

Yeah it'd be good to avoid the "Elminster problem", that being "The world is doomed, why isn't Elminster helping?". Khadgar hasn't really been shown to have "somewhere else to be" yet, and it seems like he'd get his sticky fingers STRAIGHT into this pie. So some kind of indication that actually he's dealing with some shit or maybe he polymorphed himself into a raven and can't turn back or something would be good. I will accept the latter especially if we get a sarcastic raven pet out of the bargain.

I don't think he'll show up, he's definitely non-existent in the beta so i doubt he'll show up. But anything is possible in a feature content patch.

[loras]

Every expansion needs more Khadgar, his puns alone can save Azeroth.

[Narwhalosh Whalescream]

Blizzard is probably cycling characters - the ones that "guide us through" expansions - like Lorewalker Cho and now Bolvar. We could definitely expect to see him again once we go into the Light/Void expansion.


I fully expect to see Medivh and his son Med'an in that expansion, so it would make sense to also see Khadgar.

No med'an please.

[Villager720]

I don't think Khadgar needs to show up everytime there's a crisis but i think he had his time to shine in WoD and Legion especially. However, it would be a tad more realistic if he had a minor role so that we don't assume he has his legs up on his porch ignoring possibly the greatest threat ever to not only Azeroth but every realm/world connected to the shadowlands and beyond.

I do believe they datamined a Khadgar npc in SL alpha/beta - I don’t believe it got put to use but the fact that it was in the files implies that Blizzard is certainly considering his return.

If I recall, Wrathion and Thrall did the same (were found in beta/alpha datamining) in early BfA and look how that turned out.

[tommyhil622]

I do believe they datamined a Khadgar npc in SL alpha/beta - I don’t believe it got put to use but the fact that it was in the files implies that Blizzard is certainly considering his return.

If I recall, Wrathion and Thrall did the same (were found in beta/alpha datamining) in early BfA and look how that turned out.

Yea for sure anything is possible. If he does show up it's probably for a minor role but, so far currently in the beta there's no signs pointing to his involvement at all. There's also been many cases where stuff has been left unused despite the existence of files that were datamined. But yea it's possible if those files are still present, not sure if they still are.

[Unholyground]

Currently he is on a search for Medivh in the infinite. Hopefully he finds him.

[tru]

Tired of epic powa neutral npcs that wana bake cakes with both factions. Ill pass

[Eurhetemec]

No med'an please.

I think Blizzard are actually on record as saying he's not canon in WoW. Thank god.

[Aucald]

I think Blizzard are actually on record as saying he's not canon in WoW. Thank god.

Unfortunately not as Med'an is himself canon, but him becoming the Guardian is not. His complete lack of mention in Chronicle Vol. 3 is a good sign, though; as it means that while he may still be canon it's very unlikely he'll ever be featured in WoW.

[Verdugo]

I think Blizzard are actually on record as saying he's not canon in WoW. Thank god.

People keep saying this, but forget that writers are turning their own favourites into same flavour of awful.

[Eurhetemec]

People keep saying this, but forget that writers are turning their own favourites into same flavour of awful.

That's just nonsense though.

It usually comes immediately before people start hurling around epithets like "SJW" or randomly calling pretty bog-standard major NPCs "Mary Sues" (even though nothing about them is any more "Mary Sue" than another NPC standing 6ft away from them).

Med'an is a very specific and extreme flavour of awful. He's a genuine Mary Sue, in that everything revolves around him. He has ridiculous parentage solely to make him special and unique. He is the master of multiple incompatible forms of magic - long before becoming any kind of supernatural being which might justify that. He was retroactively involved in loads of events that he had absolutely nothing to do with, and no reason to be involved with, save to make him more important. All the other major characters think he's amazing and basically kiss his feet, pretty much instantly (one of the truest marks of the Mary Sue), rather than giving him a hard time like they do with people like Wrathion. They all form around him and make him their figurehead. Still without becoming a supernatural being he manages to master yet more incompatible forms of magic (so he's a super-powerful Shaman, a super-powerful Mage, and a super-powerful Light-user). Then he goes on to become the most important person in the universe and everyone thinks this is the best idea they ever heard, because he's such a great guy.

I could go on and on.

There isn't a single "favourite" of the writers who is 10% as bad as Med'an.

All of them get stymied, and lose sometimes, and mess up, and people don't like them sometimes, whilst they may have particularly serious magic, none of it is a case of just ignoring general rules like Jaina doesn't suddenly start using Shadow Priest spells or something.

Unfortunately not as Med'an is himself canon, but him becoming the Guardian is not. His complete lack of mention in Chronicle Vol. 3 is a good sign, though; as it means that while he may still be canon it's very unlikely he'll ever be featured in WoW.

Yes, sorry, that is the correct info.

[kaintk]

Now that the Alliance and Horde have mostly entered into a truce do you think Khadgar should come back as a main character in Shadowlands?

f%$& him !
bring back medivh !! xD

[NorthernDragon]

Unfortunately not as Med'an is himself canon, but him becoming the Guardian is not. His complete lack of mention in Chronicle Vol. 3 is a good sign, though; as it means that while he may still be canon it's very unlikely he'll ever be featured in WoW.

Haven't they explained that orcs and humans cannot procreate?

[Aucald]

Haven't they explained that orcs and humans cannot procreate?

Not really sure, although Med'an is the union of a Half-Orc/Draenei (Garona) and a Human (Medivh), so I don't really know if that applies in this case.