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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Highelf View Post
    What people have been asking for, for over a decade.
    What people? I find posts like this hillarious.

    YOU have been asking for this for a decade.

    YOU dont represent even a tiny fraction of the player base.

    Neither do I, so we're clear.

    By even posting on a forum, you're already an outlier.

  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagthul View Post
    What people? I find posts like this hillarious.

    YOU have been asking for this for a decade.

    YOU dont represent even a tiny fraction of the player base.

    Neither do I, so we're clear.

    By even posting on a forum, you're already an outlier.
    So according to you, the almighty knower of everyone's opinions and doesn't even bother to do any research, it can't be a thing because you don't want it too. Got it. Posts like this make me laugh, just type HE and see how many people get triggered by it. Spew your hate and your all knowing knowledge over on the HE, whoops, h..e..forum.
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  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by otaXephon View Post
    There's always this:

    That’s more like 4-bit Atari graphics.
    8 bit would have 256 colors

  4. #144
    Premature. Come back in 12-18 months. They'll either have to do classic+ with new content (like RSC) or TBC servers.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Kagthul View Post
    What people? I find posts like this hillarious.

    YOU have been asking for this for a decade.

    YOU dont represent even a tiny fraction of the player base.

    Neither do I, so we're clear.

    By even posting on a forum, you're already an outlier.
    I take it you know Highelf on a personal basis, because you seem to know exactly what they've been personally asking for.
    Oh wait, you're just another of those clowns who comes here and blanket states 'You'. I see it all the time. "You asked for no changes. You asked for Classic, etc" when in reality different people asked for different things, or not at all.

  6. #146
    Blizzard should do what daybreak did for everquest and let us play through each expansion, timed releases

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Naraga View Post
    The only ppl I can imagine wanting classic+ are people who play retail right now.

    Just think about it. What makes anyone trust current Blizzard with expanding upon classic unless they really enjoy BFA and Shadowlands? If Blizzard was a competent, trustworthy company we wouldn't be having classic wow in the first place. Instead we would have an actually playable and good experience in retail WoW. Which we don't.

    TBC is the only way to go, and wotlk after that. And then, it's time to shut it all down and move on from WoW.
    Sums it up nicely. The current Blizzard leadership has proven itself incapable of matching the team that made WoW a great game for 6 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagthul View Post
    What people? I find posts like this hillarious.

    YOU have been asking for this for a decade.

    YOU dont represent even a tiny fraction of the player base.

    Neither do I, so we're clear.

    By even posting on a forum, you're already an outlier.
    We don't need none of that fact, logic and reason 'round these parts!

    To be clear I completely agree with you

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorp View Post
    In Warcraft 3, most of the high elves left the alliance though, and became the blood elves. So they are already playable in WoW horde side.
    In Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne, yes high elves became blood elves, but they were playable and were in the human race/faction which also included dwarves. They were not part of or playable with undead faction or orc/troll/tauren faction

    Blizzard did a severe retcon for WOW to make them horde. When blizzard was asked. They said horde needed a pretty race. When asked why draenai were changed, they said alliance could not handle a ugly race

    Retconning against lore is common, if you know lore on worgen they should have been horde, blizzard said alliance need a beastly race. As for goblins, they did not want another small race on alliance
    Last edited by pinkz; 2019-12-02 at 02:27 PM.

  10. #150
    "Classic+" is such an unrealistic thing I don't understand how people can even think about it.

  11. #151
    no forever to classic+, you want that play live. stop with this nonsense already. you'll probably get TB and WoTLK eventually and thats it. NO NEW CONTENT EVER!

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Doffen View Post
    Classic +, no!

    TBC, sure.
    For sure. TBC has always been regarded as the ACTUAL Classic+ since 2007. It's a much more "polished" Classic/Vanilla, better dungeons and raids, arenas for those that like it, better looking armor (subjective), gorgeous zones and many more specs that are now viable when compared to Vanilla.

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    Yes, so that the cycle can repeat itself in a couple of years when players realize they don't like what changes came with Classic+, at which point they'll start screeching for Classic #NoChanges again...

    How about no. TBC and WOLTK servers, if they see that Classic remains profitable, thanks. Classic+ already happened once in history.
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  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurluas View Post
    Classic+ was called The Burning Crusade...

    Although I admit an independent Classic+ going in an entirely different direction lorewise and gamewise would be nice.
    Perhaps adding High elves to the Alliance at last, staying true to the Warcraft 3 lore, etc.

    Then again, I don't have faith in the modern Blizzard to carry on the spirit of Vanilla wow.
    Noice meme post altho the only thing I agree with is +=tbc.

    You are basically summing up the burning crusade, where indeed the high elves now known as blood elves joined the horde through sylvanas.

    I dont think we need a seperate option for that, unless burning crusade becomes another option like classic is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor210 View Post
    For sure. TBC has always been regarded as the ACTUAL Classic+ since 2007. It's a much more "polished" Classic/Vanilla, better dungeons and raids, arenas for those that like it, better looking armor (subjective), gorgeous zones and many more specs that are now viable when compared to Vanilla.
    Burning crusade was the clown armor area, so it is idd subjective


    I noted some one said blood elves were playable in the human faction, altho true its not realy fair if you compare it to wow, since tbc didnt come straight afther warcraft 3.
    They just werent playable and joining the horde was a obvious go to with the events of the frozen throne. The pretty asian race thing is a thing I know, but still isnt enough to just leave the alliance, but the frozen throne perfectly explained it already, people just didnt want to see it.
    Last edited by Alanar; 2019-12-02 at 03:22 PM.

  15. #155
    We'll see if it happens. TBC and WotLK will most likely release in the mean-time, and after awhile Classic will have less of a population as more and more people will play their desired expansions, and burn themselves out after time has passed. I don't believe Blizzard, especially modern Blizzard will leave it alone. They're already releasing content faster on purpose so that it becomes feature complete, and ready to be put on life support - and release the next old expansion for people to play.
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  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    Yes, so that the cycle can repeat itself in a couple of years when players realize they don't like what changes came with Classic+, at which point they'll start screeching for Classic #NoChanges again...

    How about no. TBC and WOLTK servers, if they see that Classic remains profitable, thanks. Classic+ already happened once in history.
    Classic+ never existed. Because the entirety of the older zones were abandoned for a new sandbox in Draenor. Every expansion ignored the previous content except for Cataclysm which instead of allowing for a "phasing" possibility removed all of the old with a new. I wouldn't consider that Classic+ if you destroy the entire house and rebuild a new one on top of the foundation. Classic+ would be improving on what you have already rather than abandoning it for a new pasture.

    1. PvP - Make actual World PvP objectives that players would actively commit to actually doing. BGs were a bandaid to the World PvP system being broken for numerous servers that were imbalanced. They weren't willing to make hard decisions to force a balance. Their only attempt in history for fixing imbalanced World PvP would be Wintergrasp (I don't think anything happened to Tol Barad) which made characters super soldiers but, they were CC'd to death.
    A) The current EPL Towers which will come out in Phase6 are a joke. Make actual conflict zones similar to the new system but, make it actually in the world rather than an instance that people AFK for rewards.
    B) Keep encouraging people to server transfer from imbalanced servers for FREE. Give bonuses to these people willing to transfer over.
    C) Fix the Honor System to reward ability, commitment, and strategy. The current system is no more than a time sink with rewards that are comparable MC/BWL content but, are later outdated by future content. Reward people for being good players rather than 24/7 account sharing neckbeards or AFKing losers who stealth in locations to get maximum honor for zero effort. An internal ranking system based upon their ability for their CLASS AND SPEC should be reflected. Instead we see the easiest class/specs just as we see in retail at the top of the brackets raking in all the rewards.


    This is just an example they could do to make Classic a Classic+ experience. We all know the mistakes made and the imbalances. Why not correct them? Content won't be removed like we saw in Cataclysm it will simply be improved upon.

    TLDR: Do not abandon old content(Azeroth Classic) for new content(Draenor BC) as it only continued the bad trend we see currently in retail. Fix existing content to make a Classic+ experience. Cataclysm & BC aren't Classic+ because they ignore or remove old content entirely.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Steelangel View Post
    That’s more like 4-bit Atari graphics.
    8 bit would have 256 colors
    Nono, SNES was true 16-BIT and could display 256 colors at the same time on screen.But yeah Atari is not..8-bit.
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  18. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roelath View Post
    Classic+ never existed. *snip*.
    It did for a fact, can still be played today.

    "We all know the mistakes made" = No, we don't. First of all, forum posters are a minority. Second of all, between 100 different people you can get 100 different opinions on where the game went wrong, what MADE it go wrong etc etc. The only thing that seems to be universal among Classic fans is that "teh game went to shit past Vanilla"... Yet now all of a sudden, Classic's not enough...?

    Classic+ would only repeat the cycle. If the current team, according to Classic fans, can't be trusted with the game that's literally Classic+ 13 years of iterations, then they sure as hell can't be trusted with managing a separate Classic+.

    So, I maintain: No. Classic existing as is to satisfy the fans of it = great. Then, if it's profitable in another year, they can release TBC and maybe WOTLK Legacy servers. Or, at some point, perhaps Classic fans need to realize that Vanilla wasn't the ever-lasting source of renewable content that they pretended for so many years, and that they're ready to just move on from WoW. Pandering to every person wishing to recapture the feels they had for the game in the past is a surefire way to stretch everything too thin.
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  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by vitor210 View Post
    For sure. TBC has always been regarded as the ACTUAL Classic+ since 2007. It's a much more "polished" Classic/Vanilla, better dungeons and raids, arenas for those that like it, better looking armor (subjective), gorgeous zones and many more specs that are now viable when compared to Vanilla.
    Not to mention a much better honor system.

  20. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicIsTerrible View Post
    Just admit Classic is terrible and not as good as you remembered.
    Its amazing but the content lockig makes it quite... Its just not much to do besides that one raid a week and lvling alts

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