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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Biochem92 View Post
    Ya man ur way off the corruption system isnt perfect but its better than what we got now.
    Ye no. good vs bad corruption roll will be way more massive dps wise compared to extra 5-10-15 ilvls 100%.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    BfA was announced 3 November 2017... released 14 August 2018... What specifically makes you believe that the next expansion's development is going to take 4+ additional months of development?
    The fact that Blizzard stated a "2020 release" rather than a "Summer 2020 release" makes me believe that Shadowlands is coming in the Q4. If I have to guess I would say October

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by ReVnX View Post
    The fact that Blizzard stated a "2020 release" rather than a "Summer 2020 release" makes me believe that Shadowlands is coming in the Q4. If I have to guess I would say October
    1 month before blizzcon not sure.

    I feel like

    Pre-expansion after Blizzcon 2020 release Dec/Jan 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReVnX View Post
    The fact that Blizzard stated a "2020 release" rather than a "Summer 2020 release" makes me believe that Shadowlands is coming in the Q4. If I have to guess I would say October
    You might be right... but I am of the opinion that those that have convinced themselves of a 2021 release aren't thinking for themselves and only parroting what some idiot told them to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exhuman View Post
    1 month before blizzcon not sure.

    I feel like

    Pre-expansion after Blizzcon 2020 release Dec/Jan 2021

    Really? why not?... Blizzcon 2014 was 7-8 Nov 2014... WOD was released the following Thursday... It appears you are desperate to believe what you were told to believe instead of you know, actually thinking for yourself and looking at the facts. Why is this?

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  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    BfA was announced 3 November 2017... released 14 August 2018... What specifically makes you believe that the next expansion's development is going to take 4+ additional months of development?
    What specifically? Oh, a few things.

    BfA had the shortest testing cycle of any expansion ever and it shows. It was a horribly rushed, unfinished mess.
    Shadowlands feature trailer was one of the most empty and lacklustre of any expansion reveal.
    They had almost nothing to show at Blizzcon. Almost every answer to questions was - "We don't know yet". "We haven't got that far".

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by scarecrowz View Post
    What specifically? Oh, a few things.

    BfA had the shortest testing cycle of any expansion ever and it shows. It was a horribly rushed, unfinished mess.
    Shadowlands feature trailer was one of the most empty and lacklustre of any expansion reveal.
    They had almost nothing to show at Blizzcon. Almost every answer to questions was - "We don't know yet". "We haven't got that far".

    No wonder BfA was the most bugged expansion ever released. With over +120 hotfixes in a week.

    Cant wait for the wipe fest and rage in raids with corruption gear wiping the whole group.
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  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
    I think you need to rewatch and then watch the post interview discussions by preach and the others like Talieson.

    They all said the devs said they’ve barely started and most of the features aren’t even filled out yet.

    We are talking late 2020 at best according to them
    Yep according to the people who conducted the interviews and not the devs they "suspect around December"

    Another thing that was pointed out by preach was that azerite gear was implimented 3 days before release

    That means that it is likely blizz is ok with testing systems last

    We already have an in game cutscene in bastion

    Alpha February
    Beta March
    Pre-patch August
    Release September

    Based on the fact that blizzard doesn't even want to release a patch in December I highly doubt that they would release an expansion

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReVnX View Post
    The fact that Blizzard stated a "2020 release" rather than a "Summer 2020 release" makes me believe that Shadowlands is coming in the Q4. If I have to guess I would say October
    Can't do October
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  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Exhuman View Post
    They pretend to keep people entertained with this till 2021 until Shadowlands?

    They also confirmed the Heart of Azeroth Azerite farm to be endless in 8.3

    Yikes
    Do you mean the comfirmation from NK? she didn't comfirm that. :P
    So...you really think shadowlands is coming in 2021 and not 2020? boy you crazy.
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  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    and 9.0 after this is suppsed to be "alt friendly"

    ye sure .

    i wonder who is naive enough to belive this.
    The last few expansions have been extremely alt friendly. No, your alt will never be given all the progress of your main, it is absurd to even think that should be a thing. But I guess self entitlement beats out rational thinking for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarecrowz View Post
    What specifically? Oh, a few things.

    BfA had the shortest testing cycle of any expansion ever and it shows. It was a horribly rushed, unfinished mess.
    Shadowlands feature trailer was one of the most empty and lacklustre of any expansion reveal.
    They had almost nothing to show at Blizzcon. Almost every answer to questions was - "We don't know yet". "We haven't got that far".
    Tell you what, bookmark this... and if it is in fact released in 2021 then I'll say I was wrong... till then I'm gonna accept that it will be released sometime in 2020...

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  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    Tell you what, bookmark this... and if it is in fact released in 2021 then I'll say I was wrong... till then I'm gonna accept that it will be released sometime in 2020...
    That's fine dude. I'm not having a go at you for believing that.

    All I'm saying is - the whole thing is a catch 22.

    If they release before December 2020(earliest). I believe the expansion will be another rushed mess full of shoddy, half thought out ideas. I believe this because it doesn't look like they're even remotely ready for Alpha/Beta. They showed almost nothing at Blizzcon and answered most questions with "we don't know". Which to me means that half their ideas are just that - ideas.

    If they don't release in 2020 then we're stuck with 8.3 for 12+ months which let's be fucking honest - has almost no content in it. It has a raid and a Chromie/Withered Scenario, the latter using recycled assets. I'm not even going to count the 3rd time we're getting shitty WQ invasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casperite View Post
    The last few expansions have been extremely alt friendly. No, your alt will never be given all the progress of your main, it is absurd to even think that should be a thing. But I guess self entitlement beats out rational thinking for some.
    There is absolutely nothing alt friendly about Legion or BfA.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcleaver View Post
    Ye no. good vs bad corruption roll will be way more massive dps wise compared to extra 5-10-15 ilvls 100%.
    Its the end of the expac for one thing, of course someone is going to be up there if they got lucky on rolls. the Good thing now is that we got less ppl with 440 ilevel pulling 20k dps in my M+ due to less of an inflate on ilevel.

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Biochem92 View Post
    the Good thing now is that we got less ppl with 440 ilevel pulling 20k dps in my M+ due to less of an inflate on ilevel.
    1. double on-use-trinkets
    2. essence*azerite multipliers
    3. huge disparity between burst specs and non-burst specs

    The ilvl alone is meaningless because of this reasons.

    M+ balance is just a shitshow. Burst specs are able to do a factor of x4 and more on short ST fights and its even more in AoE. If you stack them, it gets even worse.

    With corruption you get just another hidden multiplier, so the difference in your M+ groups will be even bigger in 8.3.
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  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Biochem92 View Post
    Its the end of the expac for one thing, of course someone is going to be up there if they got lucky on rolls. the Good thing now is that we got less ppl with 440 ilevel pulling 20k dps in my M+ due to less of an inflate on ilevel.
    If you take people to your mythic+ group only based on ilvl you have no right to complain about their dps.

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