Should they remove void form?

[Pregnant Orc]

Let me just take a famous George Lucas quote and rework it just a little from

Jar Jar's the key to all this, if we get Jar Jar working. 'Cause he's a funnier character than we've ever had in the movies...

to

Void Form the key to all this, if we get Void Form working. 'Cause it's a funnier ability than we've ever had in the spec...

and we'll have the state of Shadow. Only we are going into the third prequel film and Jar Jar was reworked to have Anakins role from the start. Meesa no likey sand

[ThrashMetalFtw]

I know that the ability has problems. But that's not a reason to remove it. Imo unique gameplay is more important than perfectly balanced gameplay and shadow right now is unique. It would be a shame if VF was removed and the spec turned into just another "generate and spend" rotation.

Shadow from TBC to WoD was more unique. And more importantly, it was a functional spec with mechanics that made sense and had some sort of synergy between eachother.

Oh, and give us back the old Shadowform visual while they are at it.

[Spicymemer]

If people want shadow orbs.

Please fk off back to Affliction or Arcane, you're not wanted.

[kail]

If people want shadow orbs.

Please fk off back to Affliction or Arcane, you're not wanted.

Hmmm, no.

Also, Affliction was ruined with it's UA being a spender as well. Blizz shifted spriest to affliction and demonology into spriest. While I like the current demonology style, the other two felt far worse than previous iterations.

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...ges/490697/116

These new changes are exciting. Especially since we're in beta!

[Skylarking]

I hope they do some shit in shadowlands where they remove voidform because old gods have been yeeted but demon hunters still exist so that doesn't give me much hope. If they choose to keep it then just make it some passive talent or something and keep it far away as possible from being viable so it does not affect gameplay.

Thank fuck they listened, i somewhat got my wish and im happy with that. Can't wait to get into spriest in SL.

[sourlol]

Oh, and give us back the old Shadowform visual while they are at it.

Give us old mind flay too!

[bloodmoth13]

Id rather they make shadow a holy dps spec and make a new shadow based class.

Maybe Shadow ranged dps spec, Shadow ranged dps with gun/bow/xbow, shadow healing spec. So something like WoD Shadow Priest for the ranged dps spec, a dark ranger ranger spec, and a healing spec using void magic. Mail or cloth armor, but I feel mail would work better as it would fill the gap in the mail slot.

would step on too many toes and piss off too many people, we also have too many dark specs as is, though i agree that we could use a holy mage more than shadow priest.

I think the best option would be to break up classes and let players pick and choose up to 3 specs based on what they want their character to be, then introduce some specs to fill in the gaps that were left like holy mage (inquisitor?) dark ranger or necromancer, which would all be great with just 1 good spec.

[Chickat]

I'd love that, but seems more like a WoW 2 thing. It was awesome in Rift.

[eScar95]

I honestly just want Shadowform gone, Voidform to be made a cool down, and void bolt to be a seperate ability. They also need to clean up their spell book because at this point it just looks like a mess on the PTR.

[BobAwesome]

I'd love that, but seems more like a WoW 2 thing. It was awesome in Rift.

Rift has the coolest class/talent trees and combos.

[Spicymemer]

People really seem to like shadow right now.
But those people dont raid / havent raided.
Its not going to be fun anymore.
The priest community discord really dropped the ball on this one.

[Alanar]

People really seem to like shadow right now.
But those people dont raid / havent raided.
Its not going to be fun anymore.
The priest community discord really dropped the ball on this one.

There is more then raiding..
What is not going to be fun anymore?

Shadow feels better then it ever was.

[Laqweeta]

Rift has the coolest class/talent trees and combos.

omg that game is still alive? XD

[schwank05]

As a Former Resto Druid main that has not been able to take it seriously since them removing Tree Form and making it a CD. I think everyone should take a strong look and decide if this is really what you want.
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[Sorshen]

As a Former Resto Druid main that has not been able to take it seriously since them removing Tree Form and making it a CD. I think everyone should take a strong look and decide if this is really what you want.
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Apples and oranges.

[Mosha]

As a Former Resto Druid main that has not been able to take it seriously since them removing Tree Form and making it a CD. I think everyone should take a strong look and decide if this is really what you want.
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Explain to me how this is comparable. Tree form just gave you better stats, slower move speed, no access to any other spells, and less mana costs.

Void form was a terrible, temporary form that you constantly had to build up a resource in order to spend get into your form then spam abilities hoping something didn’t interfere with your rotation that knocked you out of the form or else your damage would suffer tremendously.

Shadow priests turned into void form. That was basically it. If you weren’t in void form, you were working to get into void form, and when you were in void form you were working to stay in void form. It wasn’t fun. Especially in pvp. It felt terrible.

[Recovery]

Explain to me how this is comparable. Tree form just gave you better stats, slower move speed, no access to any other spells, and less mana costs.

Void form was a terrible, temporary form that you constantly had to build up a resource in order to spend get into your form then spam abilities hoping something didn’t interfere with your rotation that knocked you out of the form or else your damage would suffer tremendously.

Shadow priests turned into void form. That was basically it. If you weren’t in void form, you were working to get into void form, and when you were in void form you were working to stay in void form. It wasn’t fun. Especially in pvp. It felt terrible.

SOmeone had mentioned taking shadow form away completely and only having void form cooldown. Thats what he was comparing to Druid tree form. Read between the lines, bud. You can do it. I believe in you.


as for my "2 cents"...

Priest playstyle was bonkers pre shadowlands changes. It wasnt fun. It wasnt fun whatsoever. It was kinda like socialism.. Good concept on paper, bad in practice.

Post shadowlands changes are much more fluid. The class actually make sense..

[Mosha]

SOmeone had mentioned taking shadow form away completely and only having void form cooldown. Thats what he was comparing to Druid tree form. Read between the lines, bud. You can do it. I believe in you.


as for my "2 cents"...

Priest playstyle was bonkers pre shadowlands changes. It wasnt fun. It wasnt fun whatsoever. It was kinda like socialism.. Good concept on paper, bad in practice.

Post shadowlands changes are much more fluid. The class actually make sense..

Oh one of these guys...

So the post I'm commenting on doesn't have a quote, so one can assume he is commenting on the OP correct? If there was context he was directly replying to then one can assume you should be using this cool quote feature in order to show others what you're talking about. Right? Does this make sense to you honey?

This isn't 'reading between the lines' this guy straight up didn't put any context in his post if this is truly what he is commenting on.

Let me explain this to you in case you don't understand.

If I come in here, not quoting anything and put "What a dumb idea", you would probably assume I'm talking about the OP? Wouldn't you? Well...if you don't you should. But if I am specifically talking about a post such as

As a Former Resto Druid main that has not been able to take it seriously since them removing Tree Form and making it a CD. I think everyone should take a strong look and decide if this is really what you want.

Then I should probably quote that post and then say 'what a dumb idea'.

You get how that works? Or should I explain it more for you.

Also, whose to say he isn't responding to the OP? What makes you say he is responding to that post specifically? Can you read his mind?

[Recovery]

Oh one of these guys...

So the post I'm commenting on doesn't have a quote, so one can assume he is commenting on the OP correct? If there was context he was directly replying to then one can assume you should be using this cool quote feature in order to show others what you're talking about. Right? Does this make sense to you honey?

This isn't 'reading between the lines' this guy straight up didn't put any context in his post if this is truly what he is commenting on.

Let me explain this to you in case you don't understand.

If I come in here, not quoting anything and put "What a dumb idea", you would probably assume I'm talking about the OP? Wouldn't you? Well...if you don't you should. But if I am specifically talking about a post such as



Then I should probably quote that post and then say 'what a dumb idea'.

You get how that works? Or should I explain it more for you.

Also, whose to say he isn't responding to the OP? What makes you say he is responding to that post specifically? Can you read his mind?

There is this cool little thing that is a part of language and reading comprehension that people call context clues.

With his analogy, youd have to assume that hes talking about taking something that is permanent (Void form isnt) and making it a cool down. Therefore, its quite simple to deduce that he is talking about shadowform rather than void form, seeing as how void form isnt a permanent state.