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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Jalatiphra View Post
    seems like you asked for advice and already have made up your mind.
    buying a cheap PSU will cost you money in the long run.
    and no
    there are NEVER good PSUs for less than 70 bucks.
    I did not ask for advice lol, thats the problem with forums like this...

    Read my OP, its about deals and how likely it is to find a better psu for cheaper on black friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    I did not ask for advice lol,
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    Do i pull trigger on this PSU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    How likely is it to find a better deal on black friday ya think?
    Literally asking for advice.

    Read my OP, its about deals and how likely it is to find a better psu for cheaper on black friday.
    Is also asking for advice, and we've advised you that it's a shit PSU that you shouldn't buy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
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    Literally asking for advice.


    Is also asking for advice, and we've advised you that it's a shit PSU that you shouldn't buy
    That's fair, but then the thread continued on to talk about things i didnt ask about one iota lol.

    I asked about deals and black friday, not if the PSU in question was of sufficient quality for the sort of build im putting together.

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    Ummm side note, the arc 650 AND 750 just went on sale for 39.99.

    I dont need anywhere near a 62amp 12v rail but this is a deal i am NOT missing lol. I suggest you all do the same, its a 3 year warranty 750w, full black cables and nearing gold efficiency (88%) for under 40 bucks, no mail in rebate garbage. I seriously doubt we will see better on black friday or cyber monday given recent psu pricing.

    Best thing about overbuying wattage on systems=always silent or near silent even under full loads. Glad i waited

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    Hmmm one more rosewill unit just went on sale too, the lepton:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0784B7ZWR...kCode=ogi&th=1

    Only 500w but semi modular and gold certified for 44.99. Ugh wish we had more info on whats actually coming black friday.
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  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    That's fair, but then the thread continued on to talk about things i didnt ask about one iota lol.

    I asked about deals and black friday, not if the PSU in question was of sufficient quality for the sort of build im putting together.

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    Ummm side note, the arc 650 AND 750 just went on sale for 39.99.

    I dont need anywhere near a 62amp 12v rail but this is a deal i am NOT missing lol. I suggest you all do the same, its a 3 year warranty 750w, full black cables and nearing gold efficiency (88%) for under 40 bucks, no mail in rebate garbage. I seriously doubt we will see better on black friday or cyber monday given recent psu pricing.

    Best thing about overbuying wattage on systems=always silent or near silent even under full loads. Glad i waited

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    Hmmm one more rosewill unit just went on sale too, the lepton:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0784B7ZWR...kCode=ogi&th=1

    Only 500w but semi modular and gold certified for 44.99. Ugh wish we had more info on whats actually coming black friday.
    You asked if you should buy a PSU on sale. The answer is no. It doesnt matter how cheap it is and what the wattage is. It's not worth it if you value the other components in your PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderball View Post
    You asked if you should buy a PSU on sale. The answer is no. It doesnt matter how cheap it is and what the wattage is. It's not worth it if you value the other components in your PC.
    The 750w version is based on another platform. The 450-650 are based on the ATNG ATM-B platform, which is fucking dogshit and should be thrown out. The 750W is based on the ATNG ATA-B platform which also isn't good, but it's not awful.

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    lol you guys are gonna love this, i decided to go ultra cheap:
    https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E1681114...-317-_-Product

    Cant buy this case without the PSU and i really like the layout so i pulled the trigger. Now the question is how much GPU can it handle with a 28amp (or is it 29a, hard to read the picture) 12v rail? Id like to go rx 570 but id drop down to a gtx 1650 super or 1060 if i had to, just that rx cards are so cheap on ebay.

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    Hmm interesting:
    https://www.rosewill.com/product/fbm...-power-supply/

    According to that page this PSU is supposed to be 30a 12 rail and 80+ white certified, the one on the newegg pic shows different. If i get it and it has the lesser supply im gonna phone them up and see if they will send me out one of those RD 400 z's.

  7. #67
    dont hate on rosewill. i've had rosewill capstone power supplies that live up to the score that jonnyguru gave them. all comes down to the oem. some of them going on 8 years, working great.

    anyways, wouldnt worry too terribly about quality (keep it in the back of your mind though) at the lower spectrum of power. it's more important at higher powers since ripple and regulation can get magnified when pushing closer to the rated limit of the psu under actual high load scenarios

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    doubtful they would send you a new psu for free like that

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    No one ever seems to care about the quality of the part that literally CONVERTS ELECTRICITY for your ENTIRE computer.
    If the PSU dies, the WHOLE COMPUTER could very well go with it. When my motherboard died earlier this year... that's the only part that died. I have not been able to test the CPU, but it probably still works, but it's an i7-5820K from over 5 years ago, so I am not too worried about it.

    Imagine your drives, your GPU, your motherboard, CPU, RAM... all of that going.

    Don't buy cheap unless you don't give a damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    No one ever seems to care about the quality of the part that literally CONVERTS ELECTRICITY for your ENTIRE computer.
    If the PSU dies, the WHOLE COMPUTER could very well go with it. When my motherboard died earlier this year... that's the only part that died. I have not been able to test the CPU, but it probably still works, but it's an i7-5820K from over 5 years ago, so I am not too worried about it.

    Imagine your drives, your GPU, your motherboard, CPU, RAM... all of that going.

    Don't buy cheap unless you don't give a damn.
    Don’t try to tell Fascinate anything, he knows all and is only looking for people to affirm his choices.
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    100:1 odds that he wont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssateneth View Post
    dont hate on rosewill. i've had rosewill capstone power supplies that live up to the score that jonnyguru gave them. all comes down to the oem. some of them going on 8 years, working great.

    anyways, wouldnt worry too terribly about quality (keep it in the back of your mind though) at the lower spectrum of power. it's more important at higher powers since ripple and regulation can get magnified when pushing closer to the rated limit of the psu under actual high load scenarios

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    doubtful they would send you a new psu for free like that
    But considering the specs arent listed anywhere the best i have to go off of is the actual rosewill page that lists the model number of the PSU. Its close either way, id just rather have the one with 30A of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Don’t try to tell Fascinate anything, he knows all and is only looking for people to affirm his choices.
    Well the reason this thread reached 4 pages is that i never asked for advice on how good of a PSU i needed for a sub 300 dollar PC, i was asking about deals initially then found myself defending the fact that lower end PSU's exist for a reason. I have a 130 dollar PSU in my main system (which i decided to sell, dont need this much power for a WoW rig) but for a system like this i think its perfectly fine to cheap out on a PSU, especially with the tariffs hitting PSU's more than any other PC component.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Don’t try to tell Fascinate anything, he knows all and is only looking for people to affirm his choices.
    Yeah after I posted I saw who started the thread and shook my head.

    Damn it. I remember when he first showed up years back. >_<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Well the reason this thread reached 4 pages is that i never asked for advice on how good of a PSU i needed for a sub 300 dollar PC, i was asking about deals initially then found myself defending the fact that lower end PSU's exist for a reason. I have a 130 dollar PSU in my main system (which i decided to sell, dont need this much power for a WoW rig) but for a system like this i think its perfectly fine to cheap out on a PSU, especially with the tariffs hitting PSU's more than any other PC component.
    You literally asked for advice as to whether or not it was smart to buy the PSU you were originally looking at. Sorry that the answer was that even at that price it's trash and not worth it. I get you only want people to validate your opinions, but c'mon.
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    100:1 odds that he wont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    You literally asked for advice as to whether or not it was smart to buy the PSU you were originally looking at. Sorry that the answer was that even at that price it's trash and not worth it. I get you only want people to validate your opinions, but c'mon.
    How about finding him a better psu at that price point because that`s the point of his thread. It's not surprising how this thread evolved, this is always how hardware recommendations end in this forum. A bunch of pointless grandstanding.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    How about finding him a better psu at that price point because that`s the point of his thread. It's not surprising how this thread evolved, this is always how hardware recommendations end in this forum. A bunch of pointless grandstanding.
    I did, he laughed and went even cheaper...
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    Go for it brother, I have bought quite a few rosewell PSUs in some of my cheaper builds and they're more then adequate at that level of computing. I swear some people are just these die hard enthusiasts that can't accept the fact that most people aren't running i9 9900KS with a 2080ti. Just look up some reviews on it before you pull the trigger as some of those rosewells can be hit or miss.

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    There isn't a single review, test, discussion or even a forum post about that particular PSU. It's a completely unknown low budget PSU. I'd be less worried about what components it can handle and more worried about it burning down the house. I wouldn't touch it even if I got it for free.

    But you do whatever the hell you want to do, I'm not interested in giving advice to people who have no intention of listening to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakadam View Post
    There isn't a single review, test, discussion or even a forum post about that particular PSU. It's a completely unknown low budget PSU. I'd be less worried about what components it can handle and more worried about it burning down the house. I wouldn't touch it even if I got it for free.

    But you do whatever the hell you want to do, I'm not interested in giving advice to people who have no intention of listening to it.
    I'd probably use it in like a 3000g build if I got it for free (With a decent warranty that'll replace parts if it blows). If I had to pay for it though? Nah

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    The case usually sells for 34.99 with free ship, so i effectively paid 8.99 for the PSU lol.

    I ran the numbers and i wont even be close to its limits with an overclocked ryzen 3 1200 and rx 570.

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    Here is final build list (as long as the ebay seller accepts my offer on the rx 570):
    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($35.00)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($40.00)
    Memory: Patriot Viper Elite 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($32.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($34.99)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 4 GB AORUS 4G Video Card ($80.00)
    Case: Rosewill FBM-X2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($47.22)
    Power Supply: Rosewill RD-Z 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($0.00)
    Monitor: LG 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($30.00) (bought last year from adorama, pricing error lol)
    Total: $300.20
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-02 16:44 EST-0500


    Good price for all this ya think? Shame there were no real black friday or cyber monday deals tho.

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    Im just hoping my eyes dont deceive me and im not seeing a 8pin pci-e connector on that PSU, i know i see two 8 pins just hoping one is pci-e otherwise ill have to scrounge the closet for adapters from molex lol.

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    BTW reason i went with this memory is one it was the cheapest decent kit of 8gb's and its the same stuff they sell in the 3200 cas 16 range so it should easily be overclockable to that point, but beyond that buying 2666 ram for ryzen 1 platforms is nice because you know the xmp values will work at 1.2v. Was one of the annoyances with my first ryzen build, i just like set and forget nature of xmp but i will test at 2933 and 3200 to see any differences, but i doubt i will see much in the games i play.
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