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  • Conservative

    35 37.63%
  • Labour

    35 37.63%
  • SNP

    5 5.38%
  • Liberal Democrat

    7 7.53%
  • DUP

    0 0%
  • Sinn Fein

    1 1.08%
  • Plaid Cymru

    1 1.08%
  • Green

    1 1.08%
  • Independent

    1 1.08%
  • Spoil vote

    2 2.15%
  • Abstain

    2 2.15%
  • Other

    3 3.23%
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  1. #441
    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    You're not going to get your dream of Uk labour going back to the blairites.
    It doesn't have to be a Blairite just literally anyone else, another commie if you want.

    Its that or more years of tory rule

    Your problem is that you’re more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    It doesn't have to be a Blairite just literally anyone else, another commie if you want.

    Its that or more years of tory rule

    lol they will just the exact same smears against any other left-wing labour leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fsertyuiop View Post
    Everyone keeps saying that like exactly the same thing didn't happen last time. Or that polls have been consistently wrong everywhere going back to 2010.

    Let's wait for the election result.
    The poll he posted does even show what party people will be voting for, its not as far apart as the one he posted seems to suggest.
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  4. #444
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluttershy View Post
    So let me get this straight.

    Boris will fuck the economy a bit more, make the rich even richer and destroy the NHS.

    Corbyn wants to burn all my tax money for... free broadband... and so underaged turds get unlimited train access, so that all the unemployed druggies in the streets who make a living out of professional begging get free housing, so more single moms get free housing, so people on benefits get more benefits.

    Seems like were fucked either way.
    This entire post screams of the British equivalent of "But Hillary!!!" bullshit equivalence that is nothing even close to equivalent. Honestly, this post is the first I've heard the words "Corbyn" and "Free Broadband" in the same sentence. Most are focusing on what he's doing opposing what BoJo is doing, particularly in regards to the destruction of the NHS, than anything you're implying.

    Learn our lesson, England - no matter what you think of Corbyn, any bad that he does can be undone and is significantly less than the alternative. Our so-called "Non-Sheep" in America here lined up on the internet like herds of sheep to show us how much they weren't sheep who lined up in herds - and our entire democracy is in risk of falling apart due to that gullible mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluttershy View Post
    Corbyn wants to burn all my tax money for... free broadband... and so underaged turds get unlimited train access, so that all the unemployed druggies in the streets who make a living out of professional begging get free housing, so more single moms get free housing, so people on benefits get more benefits.
    Unless you're a millionaire then any tax increase you may see will be less than your current broadband bill, so the rest is pretty mute really.

    I can understand people complaining "The government wanna give other people free stuff and make ME pay for it!" but you're essentially complaining that "The government wanna give ME free stuff and make other people pay for it!" :P

  6. #446
    Andrew Neil challenges BoJo to an interview.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50679252

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  7. #447
    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    The big question is with who?

    The Labor party is balancing quite dangerously on a knife's edge since they depend on both London, the strongest pro-Remain place in the United Kingdom, and on Northern England and Wales, some of which are quite pro-Leave.

    Corbyn has tried to balance the situation between the two sides so to speak, would anyone else do better? I don't see a candidate being able to easily replace him.

    Which realistically means that unless good ol' Boris royally fucks up he'll be Prime Minister for quite a few years from now.
    Labour needs for Brexit to be over so they can actually compete on the issues instead of on Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    Andrew Neil challenges BoJo to an interview.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50679252
    Why should he do it? Boris is the current champion with nothing to prove. It is for the underling contenders to attempt to dethrone him.

    If I were Boris, miles ahead in the polls and watching all these wannabe PM's make a fool of themselves in front of Andrew Neil, I'd stay well clear. This election is already in the bag for the Tories, nothing to gain and everything to lose by being interviewed.

    Winners like Boris don't need to demean themselves by eating at the same table as the losers.

  9. #449
    You know what is amusing, you got all these pretty cool celebrities and well-beloved companies urging people to vote Labour. It comes across as if they're desperately trying to save their country from evil:




  10. #450
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Labour needs for Brexit to be over so they can actually compete on the issues instead of on Brexit.
    If that is the case then Labor has to lose this current election so that Brexit is done.

    Personally I doubt it. Taking aside the time it would take to withdraw once Johnson's deal is passed in parliament I think the first thing you'd see is a push, a strong one, to get back in the European Union since leaving it is such a massive step back to the global vision for humanity the idea that many people with significant power to accept defeat is unimaginable in that situation.

    So buckle up. Brexit itself may come to pass, but the debate and political divide Labor has to deal with is not going anywhere.
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  11. #451
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Why should he do it?
    For the entertainment value. There are few things funnier than watching Andrew Neil savage senior politicians. And boris, being the blithering clown that he is, would just utterly collapse into a pile of his own bullshit . He has already won the election and doomed us all to another few decades of austerity, the least he can do is give us all a good laugh before he fucks us.

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    This election looks like a mess either way, it sucks I gotta go against my usual and vote Labour for the first time in my 20 years of voting only to out that fucking twat Borris. Funny by not throwing my vote away it feels like I am throwing my vote away :S

    I feel so dirty.

  13. #453
    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    This election looks like a mess either way, it sucks I gotta go against my usual and vote Labour for the first time in my 20 years of voting only to out that fucking twat Borris. Funny by not throwing my vote away it feels like I am throwing my vote away :S

    I feel so dirty.
    Voting for the lesser evil is still evil

    Just saying. Vote how you want
    Your problem is that you’re more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.

  14. #454
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    You know what is amusing, you got all these pretty cool celebrities and well-beloved companies urging people to vote Labour. It comes across as if they're desperately trying to save their country from evil:

    [IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/027496ecdd064dd30dfb1f1c1b47b67d.png[IMG]

    [IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/1d36da95c62c739f6779299f6ce2046b.png[IMG]
    This one really caught me by surprise, although I guess it's not too strange for artists to lean left. Apparently the grime4corbyn group isn't as enthusiastic this time around, although Stormzy did come out in support again like last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Voting for the lesser evil is still evil

    Just saying. Vote how you want
    This is not Clinton vs Trump.


    Oh wait, nvm, you consider anything left of Pinochet to be 'evil'.
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  16. #456
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Voting for the lesser evil is still evil

    Just saying. Vote how you want
    That doesn't really work when you're under FPTP.

    It's a poor tactic to vote for your most preferred candidate over the one most likely to keep the seat from those you like the least.

  17. #457
    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    This is not Clinton vs Trump.


    Oh wait, nvm, you consider anything left of Pinochet to be 'evil'.
    I literally just told him he should vote for whoever he agrees the most and not just vote AGAINST someone.

    Not sure what Pinochet has to do with this
    Your problem is that you’re more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Voting for the lesser evil is still evil

    Just saying. Vote how you want
    this is true, but for this election only I am voting to help keep Borris out. Had the stakes not been so high I would have kept voting for my usual party. Maybe if Labour get in and next election comes around I'll go back to voting as usual.

  19. #459
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    I literally just told him he should vote for whoever he agrees the most and not just vote AGAINST someone.

    Not sure what Pinochet has to do with this
    It's FPTP, you vote against not for in this type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Labour needs for Brexit to be over so they can actually compete on the issues instead of on Brexit.
    Not a chance, why do you think the right is drawing this out so much? It benefits them.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Left wing parties are still anti-EU, but not for the same reasons the right wing is. Which is why everybody who is left-wing and is even the slighest amount of pragmatic will realize that even considering leaving the EU will only be worthwhile with a strong. eu skeptic, left-wing majority. Even then, it would be better to reform the EU.
    Ah yes, we all know how Marx was a big supporter of reforming capitalist institutions! Amazing.. Just amazing..

    A lot of EU rules can be ignored if a country really does not want to follow it anyway..
    The problem is that as long as the rules are there you will always end up with a centrist or right-wing government that decides to follow those rules again.

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