@dribbles
I’ve fixed the graph for you in anticipation of the electorate’s response to BJ refusing to look at a photo on a journalist's phone of a 5 year old with pneumonia lying on a bed of pillows because there were no beds in available. He then nicked the journo's phone. Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
I jest, of course. This is the problem, the electorate don’t give a fuck do they? I’m alright, Jack. My child’s not got pneumonia, so I’ll vote for a reduction in NI.
Selfish right wing cunts.
Now… if I’m infracted for the above, could someone continue to point the mods in the direction of the now nearly three day old post above that has yet to be meaningfully “moderated”?
Alleged undiagnosed pneumonia though, didn't it turn out to just be a case of the sniffles? Miraculous recovery wouldn't you say from something so serious and so quickly too? The boy is home, all well tonight.
I tell you what, let me know when Corbyn next visits a hospital will you? He hasn't yet in this GE campaign because he doesn't care about the NHS, whilst Boris has been to a dozen. Corbyn and his istas probably too busy with other Labour core priorities and planning his broadband giveaway. Someone has their priorities right and its's not Corbyn.
But if Corbyn does go visit, I know plenty of five year olds who will lie on a coat on the floor of a hospital, all for the price of a Lego Batman or some such, and snuffle for the cameras, it's not going to help Labour now. They are a lost cause.
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13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
So that's going to be your defence? That the kid was pretending to be sick, that actually there were plenty of beds. That it's all a Left Wing conspiracy to make Boris look bad?
Yet more nonsense from dumb right wing cunts. Which is still acceptable posting for this forum, as per the 3 day old post (reported multiple times) that hasn't been infracted yet.
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In case you didn't know voting is a purely selfish action, it was designed like that. So guess what, the vast majority of people who vote do so for purely selfish personal reasons.
Expecting people to vote because they care for their fellow man, that's not how it works.
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It's balanced out by uni students being back home (usual in strong Conservative areas) so not concentrated in the uni city's (usualy Labour holds) this could cause a huge upset for Labour in some places that counted on the concentration of young voters to win.
Edit: probly not balanced out. Its very likely a bad position of Labour to be in. Though tbh I've always been on the fence about students voting in what is there temporary place of recidance. On one hand they do live there for at least 3 years of a term, but on the other it adds to the feeling locals get of students taking over and also suppresses the views of the perminant residents of the area.
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Ex pats lose the right to vote after 15 years, many country's remove there right to vote immediately once there become residents of another country and there's a good argument for expats not being bale to vote. UK expats also cannot vote in Welsh, NI or Scottish assembly elections and can't vote in local elections.
The Super rich are such a tiny demographic that unlike students they have no affect on election outcomes from there voting demographic, even if they got concentrated into one area.
Also it would be grossly draconian to go back to basing voting rights on property wealth,
Also also. I'm not talking about removing voting rights only where the vote should apply for what seat. So your making straw men any way.
Then at the very least we could hope they temper their worst aspects. I'm not sure I expect a full coalition, but the cost of any agreement should be a referendum. That is if they don't revert to their duplicitous type.
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15 years is a very long time. And their numbers are sufficient to make a dent in election outcomes. You can't start denying Students their rights to vote in places where they spend most of their time, and furthermore, anyone with two places of residence in any case; of which there's also a huge non-student demographic as well.
Betfair has the odds at
Most seats:
Cons 1/33
Lab 14/1
Lib dem 300/1
BXP 500/1
Green 500/1
Overall majority:
Cons 1/3
No maj 11/4
Lab 25/1
Gover after election
Con maj 1/3
Lab min 7/1
Lab snp coalition 12/1
As far as betting concerned they think its a foregone conclusion and it hardly worth betting on the Conservatives unless your fine with small returns.
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They don't spend most of there time there. Most spend 3 years of there life there. But the perminant residents often spend multiple decades or generations in that area.
Like I said I'm on the fence over it. I understand that students should have a say in where they are temporarily living for there period at Uni, but St the same time I can fully understand the growing anger and frustration local residents are feeling towards students as there voice is often getting drowned out. Not so long ago in my own town police had to protect students from residents anger due to some uni planned development in the town. And I remember when I went to that uni local skinheads comming in and smashing up the student bar over some upset due to parking in the area.
It's part of a wider problem of growing anamosity towards university's and students from local residents of towns that needs saving befor it get worse and it will get worse for as long as local residents feel there being dictated to by transient students.
Let's face it Brexiteers are Trumpistas of the UK. It doesn't matter what facts you throw in their face, they will still believe 2+2 = 58662398672. Bojo could shoot someone in the middle of Oxford Street, march to Harrods and open fire there and not lose any votes. It's a damn cult of idiots who offer no benefits and only unicorns and are immune to actual facts.
He had a cold, not an accident or emergency or pneumonia and was sent home. A&E is not a place for someone a dose of Calpol will fix. From a nurse working there at the time:-
Her account: 'Every member of staff' there at the time knows that 1.Yes it was busy. 2. No, the child was not treated on the floor. 3.A bed WAS available. 4.The child was 'placed' on the floor for a photo. Will update.
https://twitter.com/Jay_Beecher/stat...78280561152001
If only Labour hadn't signed up to those disastrous PFI deals that starves the NHS of cash hey? Still soon it will have an extra £350 million a week to fix Labours mess...
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
And - talking about debunking - you know what's really funny?
In their utter desperation to switch the media's focus away from the sick child / no bed story the Tories literally invented a piece of fake news, falsely accusing a Labour activist of assaulting an aide to Matt Hancock (who had been despatched their to "smooth things over" after BJ's ridiculous phone-stealing episode) at Leeds Hospital.
A video shared on social media showed a man, who was walking with Mr Hancock, walking into a protester's arm as he was pointing.
Cue hasty retractions from partial journos like Peston and Kuennssburg who had reported on the allegations without checking they had any substance.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status...10491242643457
2 sources suggested it had happened but clear from video that was wrong
In any other times, this would be utterly extraordinary.
With all this focus on the Tory health minister, let's take a quick peak at the Labour one and something that can't be debunked as he spoke today...
Jonathan Ashworth said “I’ve been going round these national places, it’s dire for Labour… it’s dire… it’s awful for them, and it’s the combination of Corbyn and Brexit….outside of the city seats… it’s abysmal out there… they can’t stand Corbyn and they think Labour’s blocked Brexit. I think middle-class graduates – remainy people – Labour’s doing well among… but not in big enough numbers to deny the Tories a majority.”
That's extraordinary and the first time I've heard a Labour man tell the honest truth. Let's face it Labour are fubar. I wonder if he has an opinion of the kid on the hospital floor? No worries it's inconceivable cctv in a busy A&E doesn't exist, the truth will out.
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
I'd take the word of the Chief Medical Officer over some 'journalist' from VoteLeave's unverified twitter story.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9238401.htmlDr Yvette Oade, chief medical officer at Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust, said the hospital was “extremely sorry” that no bed was available in the treatment room. “This falls below our usual high standards, and for this we would like to sincerely apologise to Jack and his family,” she added.
“Our hospitals are extremely busy at the moment and we are very sorry that Jack’s family had a long wait in our emergency department. Our chief executive Julian Hartley has spoken to Jack’s mum and offered a personal apology.
Or hey, what about the woman whose facebook post was the start of this propaganda?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...t-hospital-boy
Although interesting that nothing in your 'source' backs up your accusation that he wasn't actually sick...
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