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  1. #561
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    I'm rooting for the SNP to gain seats in Scotland.

    The only serious people in Westminster need their own independent state.

    The United Kingdom is over.
    The majority of Scotland disagree with you.

  2. #562
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    I'm rooting for the SNP to gain seats in Scotland.

    The only serious people in Westminster need their own independent state.

    The United Kingdom is over.
    I was up there last weekend and I did give one good argument against Scottish independance no snp voter could deny.

    If Scotland goes independant, then the only effective opposition party would leave Westminster, and Scotland would be flooded with English refugees within a month haha.

  3. #563
    Quote Originally Posted by HugsForFree View Post
    The majority of Scotland disagree with you.
    Citation needed.
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  4. #564
    Quote Originally Posted by HugsForFree View Post
    The majority of Scotland disagree with you.
    Not if Brexit goes through according to the polls.

    Which it probably will.

  5. #565
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Not if Brexit goes through according to the polls.

    Which it probably will.
    I've resigned my self to brexit happening at some point. My focus is shifting on begging the eu to rejoin whilst collecting tined meat to start a black market when rationing comes in.

    To the thread:
    You brexit bitches and complicit corbynistas won't be talking so much shit when you need me for the good stuff for the next Christmas's meal!

  6. #566
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    I was up there last weekend and I did give one good argument against Scottish independance no snp voter could deny.

    If Scotland goes independant, then the only effective opposition party would leave Westminster, and Scotland would be flooded with English refugees within a month haha.
    They should build a wall and get the Romans to pay for it.

    But seriously, watching Westminister debates on Brexit the past 18 months have shown to me, a foreigner who really has no dog in this, the enormous disrespect that the Tories, and even Labour, regards the SNP... and Scotland as a whole. They language, sarcasm and tones they use... it's clear as can be, they all regard Scotland and the Scottish people as property. A thing they own. It's just more English imperialism. It never went away. It just shrunk.

    Scotland's economic case for independence is highly dubious (though much stronger post-Brexit). It's case on the basis of their own dignity and rights is far, far, far stronger.

    Part of me hopes for an indecisive outcome so Brexit dies a slow death. But part of me hopes for a decisive outcome for the Tory's, just so we see Scottish independence and an final end to the United Kingdom in the next 20 years. They made their bed. They get to lie in it.

  7. #567
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Not if Brexit goes through according to the polls.

    Which it probably will.
    As of the most recent polling it's basically 50\50 on the eve of the election. The irony would be truly off the scale to watch the SNP repeat the farce of Westminster by trying to force through a referendum without a clear majority on Scotland's most divisive issue.

    But sure let's keep repeating these shitty mistakes.

  8. #568
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Not if Brexit goes through according to the polls.

    Which it probably will.
    We'll see. Im not against indyref2, i voted yes in the last indyref, but there is still very strong opposition to an independant scotland. And im not so sure we want to suffer another divisive referendum any time soon.

  9. #569
    BBC are biased to the Tories folk... have you seen this:

    https://twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/1204887244152221697

    I lol'd.

    Freudian slip or genuine bias?

  10. #570
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    BBC are biased to the Tories folk... have you seen this:

    https://twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/1204887244152221697

    I lol'd.

    Freudian slip or genuine bias?
    These accidents do keep piling up....

  11. #571
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    BBC are biased to the Tories folk... have you seen this:

    https://twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/1204887244152221697

    I lol'd.

    Freudian slip or genuine bias?
    What the actual fuck. Public owned media needs to be completely neutral in political questions, considering it's the population, and obviously people who vote for any party, that pays to it.

    She should honestly be fired on the spot, what a disgrace.

  12. #572
    Quote Originally Posted by HugsForFree View Post
    We'll see. Im not against indyref2, i voted yes in the last indyref, but there is still very strong opposition to an independant scotland. And im not so sure we want to suffer another divisive referendum any time soon.
    You folks do you. I'm just saying, if I were a Scot and Englishmen ever talked about the SNP, Scotland and Scots the way the Tories did and Labour sometimes does, I'd start rioting. It's worse than political differences. It's dehumanizing disrespect and sheer disregard for the rights and dignity of Scotland / Scots.

    Really, Ian Blackford would have been entirely order to tell Boris, May and Corbyn to go fuck themselves, in those words, on many occasions.

  13. #573
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    They should build a wall and get the Romans to pay for it.

    But seriously, watching Westminister debates on Brexit the past 18 months have shown to me, a foreigner who really has no dog in this, the enormous disrespect that the Tories, and even Labour, regards the SNP... and Scotland as a whole. They language, sarcasm and tones they use... it's clear as can be, they all regard Scotland and the Scottish people as property. A thing they own. It's just more English imperialism. It never went away. It just shrunk.

    Scotland's economic case for independence is highly dubious (though much stronger post-Brexit). It's case on the basis of their own dignity and rights is far, far, far stronger.

    Part of me hopes for an indecisive outcome so Brexit dies a slow death. But part of me hopes for a decisive outcome for the Tory's, just so we see Scottish independence and an final end to the United Kingdom in the next 20 years. They made their bed. They get to lie in it.
    It goes deeper than that, there's a systemic problem with the UK, and it's kit just how England treats the rest of the UK as porpert but how the South treats every where as property. With Wales and Scotland its easy to see as they hae national assembly's and voices now but if you head to the abandoned mining towns and villages in the North, places like Accrington, like blackpool you see that losing the battle of Stamford Bridge and being consumed by England really was the worst thing we ever did. For century's the people of the North of Scotland and Wales and Ireland have been used as cannon fodder in wars, forced into squalid ghettos and used to mine and Mill and smelt for an empire we never saw a penny's profit from, and empire that lined the pockets of Lords. And when we Finaly got the vote in 1918 and we put in Labour we were betrayed time and again by them, nothings ever gotten better for us and that's why the SNP exhist, it's why plyd exhist, it's why there is local party's now in the north calling for our own devolution, Yorkshire has more people than Scotland and could easily it's self leave.

    I don't feel English. I hate the term. I don't feel British I hate the term. I'm a European and I'm lancastrian there the only Labels that have looked after me. Free Yr Hen Ogledd!

  14. #574
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Naah, they did it on an anti-Marxist ticket. Just as you are doing now.
    Your hatred is showing, it's just pathetic at this point.
    You won't be talking crap when you need to buy my corned beef in a few months!

    Also is corbyn Marxist now? Or are you just playing that wierd American game of painting people as extreams to validate your points?

  15. #575
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    So your entire issue with Corbyn is that he's a socialist? How about you fuck off?
    Your time is up.
    His issue is the correlation of them being in power during massive global economic crises, in spite of their policies having absolutely fuck all to do with them. This supposed poor economic management is why he prefer Tory economic policy that hangs on to entirely discredited ideals of trickle down, laffer curves, and austerity to shrink the state. In spite of those being disproven, and responsible for their own domestic economic crises and exacerbation of global problems.

  16. #576
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Is that the best argument you have?
    It's more likely that you boomers need my help when you're on the hospital floor with a heart attack.

    Yes, he is. That's why all those billionaires rush in to support the Tories, they are scared they have to pay their share in our society.
    Really.... You actually belive he's a Marxist. Like honestly? And your evidence is he scares billionaires? Fucking public transport scares billionaires.

    And what do they care any way, there rich enough to leave, its us fucks who have to shoot our way out of "communist eutopias"

    Any way, side from that I'm not a boomer im a Liberal mellenial snowflake thanks. I like hugging immigrants, shouting profanitys at trump, fighting climate change and we own the left corbyns little revival of the intolerant left is comming to an end.

    Those old school leftys who hate immigrants "because it depresses wages" and occasionally say Jew's instead of isreal by "mistake" can happily pack up there shit, gather it together and get the fuck out.

  17. #577
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    His issue is the correlation of them being in power during massive global economic crises, in spite of their policies having absolutely fuck all to do with them. This supposed poor economic management is why he prefer Tory economic policy that hangs on to entirely discredited ideals of trickle down, laffer curves, and austerity to shrink the state. In spite of those being disproven, and responsible for their own domestic economic crises and exacerbation of global problems.
    My issue is us putting labour in power and them never actualy doing anything to help the north. You do realise the reason the SNP control Scotland is because Scotland abandoned Labour for... That.... Exact.... Reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    No, that's not my "evidence".
    But yes. This new leadership of Labour definitely is.


    So you are promoting murder against your political opponents to keep them out of power? Amazing. Consider yourself reported.
    Please. Reported for what. Pointing out how they only way to get out of a communist country once they take control is violence, because they suspend democracy.

    Maybe im not the snowflake here.

  18. #578
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    My issue is us putting labour in power and them never actualy doing anything to help the north. You do realise the reason the SNP control Scotland is because Scotland abandoned Labour for... That.... Exact.... Reason.
    They certainly did a lot more than the Lib Dems and Tories ever managed. The latter put us in a deliberate decline.

  19. #579
    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    BBC are biased to the Tories folk... have you seen this:

    https://twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/1204887244152221697

    I lol'd.

    Freudian slip or genuine bias?
    She obviously meant to say desires, but people are making a big deal out of it. Lots of tinfoil hat wearers out there.

  20. #580
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    They certainly did a lot more than the Lib Dems and Tories ever managed. The latter put us in a deliberate decline.
    Like what?

    Like litteraly what?

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