Where has the saved development time gone?

[huth]

These two statements seem to contradict each other. Blizzard is a company, its sole purpose is to make money. EVERYTHING they do is done in order to make money. Get real.

Yet you fail to understand that this doesn't mean that the goal of each individual action is making money. Making money is the net goal of the company as a whole, not of each individual department or service offered. There is no contradiction.

Tokens are, from a corporate PoV, primarily a cost saving and CS load reduction measure. Earning money on them is secondary.

It really is surprising the level of ignorance [...] the players have

Content patches weren't a BfA invention, you know. Spoonman is bullshitting rather heavily.

[crusadernero]

You say this like there is nothing in the game to work for. There's a LOT of things in game to work for, and the Tmog from the Shadowlands special ed is not given freely---you have to actually work for it.

But first you gotta pay for it. Its clearly a small step towards selling tmog gear in the shop. A nice test on how the playerbase would react, and it seems most people didnt care so its coming.

And the mounts in the shop is really unique and cool, while ALOT(most) mounts in the game is reskins and rather boring ones. Weird.

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All of which are still cosmetic and very much a matter of opinion. Most don't seem to think the shop transmogs to be all that awesome.

True. But its not like we are getting cool tmog/mounts in the shop AND top notch gear/mounts in the game. The high quality & unique mounts are put on the shop. Soon enough you can get tmog gear in the shop to. Meaning time they spendt making tmog gear for shop is lost for gear in game.

[Lolites]

Orly? And here I was thinking that you can buy Mythic level gear from the AH with just a swipe of your credit card, aka tokens.

like you couldnt do that before... just instead of blizzard you bought the gold from someone else...

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True. But its not like we are getting cool tmog/mounts in the shop AND top notch gear/mounts in the game. The high quality & unique mounts are put on the shop. Soon enough you can get tmog gear in the shop to. Meaning time they spendt making tmog gear for shop is lost for gear in game.

yeah, i wish they put it behind real CONTENT... like the frog mounts that you literaly just buy... or the recolor of direhorn, thats actualy more expensive than cash shop mounts despite being recolor

as for the look of mounts, dunno, i think shop mounts we get in BFA are extremely ugly, while crab from nazjatar or mounts from mechagon are so cool, but thats a matter of preference...

[crusadernero]

like you couldnt do that before... just instead of blizzard you bought the gold from someone else...

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yeah, i wish they put it behind real CONTENT... like the frog mounts that you literaly just buy... or the recolor of direhorn, thats actualy more expensive than cash shop mounts despite being recolor

as for the look of mounts, dunno, i think shop mounts we get in BFA are extremely ugly, while crab from nazjatar or mounts from mechagon are so cool, but thats a matter of preference...

I think the mounts hidden behind high gold cost also sucks. Its clearly set up like that so people buy tokens.

Im talking about putting mounts behind played content. Sure there is a place for high cost mounts(In gold), but those that are now in game are clearly set up for the token.

[Lolites]

I think the mounts hidden behind high gold cost also sucks. Its clearly set up like that so people buy tokens.

Im talking about putting mounts behind played content. Sure there is a place for high cost mounts(In gold), but those that are now in game are clearly set up for the token.

the thing is, mount on store wouldnt somehow be ingame behind some content that miraculously appears, they most likely wouldnt be ingame at all, and if, then only at vendor for gold or whatnot...

the reason the shop mounts are higher "quality" is bcs they are MADE to be on shop, they put more resources into them bcs they create more money, without shop the quality of mounts reachable ingame wouldnt be better at all... people treat is as if by making shop mounts people are loosing something that would befor achi or what not but thats just not true...

[Soon-TM]

like you couldnt do that before... just instead of blizzard you bought the gold from someone else.

What you described was called "unfair advantage" (cheating, in other words) by early devs, thus you risked to have your account suspended/banned. And rightfully so, I might add.

"Outside resources don't play into it - no gold buying, etc. We take a hard line stance against it"

[Lolites]

What you described was called "unfair advantage" (cheating, in other words) by early devs, thus you risked to have your account suspended/banned. And rightfully so, I might add.

yet so many people did it the developers decided to introduce token rather than give ban to so many players...

anyhow, my point is you could buy the gear back then, and in past that gear was actualy HARD to get...

[Soon-TM]

yet so many people did it the developers decided to introduce token rather than give ban to so many players...

anyhow, my point is you could buy the gear back then, and in past that gear was actualy HARD to get...

There is a big difference between that being considered a cheat and Blizzard actively endorsing it. It's like saying that the government should sell cocaine because people will buy it illegally anyway.

[Lolites]

There is a big difference between that being considered a cheat and Blizzard actively endorsing it. It's like saying that the government should sell cocaine because people will buy it illegally anyway.

well, that is kinda true legalisation of drugs usualy lead to increase in quality (as its regulated), which makes it safer for consuments, and actualy decrease in demand

but you are pulling away from topic, you COULD always buy gear, it didnt came to existence with introduction of token, and even though it was considered "cheating" to buy gold, some people (you for example in previous coment) STILL frown upon it, so literaly only thing that changed is who people buy gold from (and tbh thats not completely true either, as crapload of people still buy/sell gold)...

[KrayZ33]

There is a big difference between that being considered a cheat and Blizzard actively endorsing it. It's like saying that the government should sell cocaine because people will buy it illegally anyway.

That would imply Blizzard introduces gold (cocaine) to the system, which they do not.

What is so difficult to understand about the fact that when you buy your 1m gold mount with tokens, you basically buy gold from other players via the auction house, and not from Blizzard?

Blizzard provided a marketplace for these transactions that is secure and safe for everyone involved.
While Gold-Sellers used gold from hacked accounts and guildbanks, the gold you get from the token is most likely from a normal player who didn't do such a thing etc.

I also love that people think that the transmogs and mounts from the shop (not the Gold-mounts) are somehow related to the token... like... you buy a token with real money, so you can sell the token, then buy another token with the gold you just got from it to not redeem it for game time, but bnet-balance?
Why exactly would you do *that* instead of buying it directly?
How retarded can people get. Hilarious

The shop mounts and pets are basically in-game achievements that say "earn/own XYZ amount of gold - Reward: Lil'KT (or choose 1)" but you lose all your progress if you claim your reward.
And before people get confused again - you can't "earn" that gold from buying tokens with RL-money - or you can, but you would simply pay like 50% on top.

[huth]

There is a big difference between that being considered a cheat and Blizzard actively endorsing it. It's like saying that the government should sell cocaine because people will buy it illegally anyway.

Well, yes, it should. Or rather, regulate and tax it rather than just ban it. The science behind that is pretty clear.

[Gnasnimadan]

Into Kotick's pocket

[erifwodahs]

There is a big difference between that being considered a cheat and Blizzard actively endorsing it. It's like saying that the government should sell cocaine because people will buy it illegally anyway.

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