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    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    They.. Already weren't allowed to enter.
    Well I kind of assumed this wouldn't be a big deal, if it wasn't new stuff. Like, denying military tourists or shore leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    I think it is supposed to mean that members of the US military won't be allowed to travel there, as private citizens.
    Yeah, this.

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    Let them work out their own issues. Not our country.
    I can think of almost every Rep, almost every Senator, and Trump who signed a bill into law saying they disagree with you.

    No-one is above the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganzoman View Post
    Little China. Their military is old and out of date with a small budget, their economy is only at 11.7 Trillion GDP, they have no military bases anywhere, they don't control the financial system and their currency isn't a worlds reserve currency.

    China is a completely useless country. Then again communists on this website love them.
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    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganzoman View Post
    Little China. Their military is old and out of date with a small budget, their economy is only at 11.7 Trillion GDP, they have no military bases anywhere, they don't control the financial system and their currency isn't a worlds reserve currency.

    China is a completely useless country. Then again communists on this website love them.
    China does not want military bases everywhere they just want to reclaim tiawan and then make themself so thorny that nobody would dare to try to push back on them. This is basically why they are doing the airstrip islands in the south china sea those are basically their "aircraft carriers" for the area they want to influence.

    Their main objective is get a strong enough military so that they can take taiwan and make it costly enough for the US that we won't try to intercede. If you look at their military balance they have mostly been focusing on midrange missiles the reason for this is their intent is if there is a shooting conflict with the US to swamp our carrier groups with missiles from outside the carriers range to respond. How well this will work out in practice is hard to say but there is a good chance all our fancy carriers are sitting ducks in modern warfare situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Ah yes, the US military.. Famous for bringing human rights, free speech and democracy...
    We can talk about our policy ideas and criticisms without being silenced and jailed. That's the important distinction between China and the West. I'm not saying we're perfect, but being able to freely talk about the issues is a right everyone should have.

    It's a good thing they are banned.
    China has been too passive, they need to go on the offensive against the US.
    Peacefully or violently?
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    Uummh ok.

    This is basically a propaganda move so whatever
    Your problem is that you’re more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    You think you are going to deploy troops to Chinese territory?
    whose going to stop us exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    whose going to stop us exactly?
    I will Ooh, and the two million soldiers they have.

    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    We can talk about our policy ideas and criticisms without being silenced and jailed. That's the important distinction between China and the West. I'm not saying we're perfect, but being able to freely talk about the issues is a right everyone should have.
    Really?
    Because countries like Columbia and Venezuela decided they wanted another kind of policy, and if you look further back Chile wanted that too.
    The US supported violent coups in all of those places and have enforced international sanctions that have killed thousands of people.

    So no.
    The moment people decide they disagree with the US, people will die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Ah yes, the US military.. Famous for bringing human rights, free speech and democracy...

    It's a good thing they are banned.
    China has been too passive, they need to go on the offensive against the US.
    What exactly does destabilizing the US and moving China into the indisputable world power do for you except satisfying your huge hate boner for America?

    I can assure you nothing good will happen where ever you are from. Because China will come for you sooner or later.

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    Trump makes token gesture by signing something he was forced to sign (while praising Xi)

    China responds by saying US military is banned from area it really technically was banned from anyway.

    There we have it. The token tit for tat by leaders trying to look strong for their home base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    whose going to stop us exactly?
    Sane people hopefully. You are coming off as bad as Kangodo so... congratulations, I guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    whose going to stop us exactly?
    Do you suffer hubris? There is no possibility you'll ever win that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    You couldn't beat North Vietnam, what makes you think beating China is even remotely possible?
    Another one who doesnt understand how war works or how that specific war was even fought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    I will Ooh, and the two million soldiers they have.
    And another one. Best one was one of your kind saying that China could get 100 million soldiers and have them invade USA. Because logistics and actual capability is not a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Another one who doesnt understand how war works or how that specific war was even fought.



    And another one. Best one was one of your kind saying that China could get 100 million soldiers and have them invade USA. Because logistics and actual capability is not a thing.
    Good luck projecting your power further than 100 miles inland in China - especially with 500 million Chinese you need to control inside that area and another billion facing you in the area outside that 100 mile radius. Just like the vastness of Russia devoured Germany (and Napoleonic France), the vastness of China devours USA (and like it did for Japan).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    What exactly does destabilizing the US and moving China into the indisputable world power do for you except satisfying your huge hate boner for America?

    I can assure you nothing good will happen where ever you are from. Because China will come for you sooner or later.
    Why does it have to be one or another? Why can't US cooperate with other countries for a change instead of trying to put everyone down?

    You are under illusion that stopping US from attacking other countries means China will take over that function. What China wants is for foreigners to stop meddling in their affairs. It just happens that Americans are so far up their own arses that they can't comprehend that someone wants to live differently, thinking of US as superior and thinking they have right to tell others how to live.

    There won't be need to destabilise US if US could let go of its imperial ambitions and superiority complex. Treat others as equals, not as subjects for a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    Do you suffer hubris? There is no possibility you'll ever win that.
    It's flag-waving over something that isn't even the topic at hand.

    If the US was actually trying to invade China with a military force, it's hard to predict exactly what would happen. But a full scale invasion of China is so far from being on the table that discussing it is absurd, and it has nothing to do with what is going on. This is about US military ships using the port, shore leave, and private citizen visitors from the military. Not an actual military deployment. And China absolutely CAN stop that kind of thing, rather easily as a matter of fact. It's not like the US is going to come in, full guns blazing, because some army private got turned away at the airport customs check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie N View Post
    Do you suffer hubris? There is no possibility you'll ever win that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynarii View Post
    It's flag-waving over something that isn't even the topic at hand.

    If the US was actually trying to invade China with a military force, it's hard to predict exactly what would happen. But a full scale invasion of China is so far from being on the table that discussing it is absurd, and it has nothing to do with what is going on. This is about US military ships using the port, shore leave, and private citizen visitors from the military. Not an actual military deployment. And China absolutely CAN stop that kind of thing, rather easily as a matter of fact. It's not like the US is going to come in, full guns blazing, because some army private got turned away at the airport customs check.
    Its not really about whether we'd win or not but about how much is lost from fighting. Do you know what a Pyrrhic victory is (slightly rhetorical)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Its not really about whether we'd win or not but about how much is lost from fighting. Do you know what a Pyrrhic victory is?
    For me to consider something a win requires achieving a goal. If the goal is to save Hong Kong, having a war in the streets that destroys the city and kills the people living there isn't a victory, even if the battle itself goes in our favor. Even in a pyrrhic victory, the goal of the battle is generally achieved, it's just that the cost of doing so is greater than the value of the goal. A war in Hong Kong wouldn't even be a pyrrhic victory, it'd be a clear loss for everyone involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilinger View Post
    Stick to cutting down wood. You Fins are known for nothing else. Communist faggots.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    What exactly does destabilizing the US and moving China into the indisputable world power do for you except satisfying your huge hate boner for America?
    Really?

    First of all: My friends wouldn't be sent off to fight the US' wars in the Middle East. I like my friends alive, thank you very much.
    Second I would love if all the lovely people I met from South America wouldn't have to fear their lives because there are fascist militia's running around because the US armed and funded them.
    I've also worked with a lot of kids from Africa. Whereas China is investing heavily in countries and stabilizing them, the US is - once again - funding chaos and warlords. I have taken care of kids that had to fled wars that wouldn't be happening if the US just stayed within their borders.

    And perhaps the BIGGEST argument of all: If the US stopped promoting far right propaganda all over the world perhaps I wouldn't have received tons of threats just for dating Jewish and Muslim girls and just for being a socialist.

    But that is not all:
    We have far right swarming all over my country.
    We have groups blindly parroting PragerU.
    We have groups copy-pasting the replacement-conspiracies.
    Fucking hell, even Steve Bannon came to Europe to create an alt-right bootcamp.
    Or just check this thread: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ainstream-quot
    Cohen is right. Social media made those things mainstream; guess where they come from?
    The US is even kidnapping European citizens as we've found out a few years ago.

    The US caused unrest in Ukraine, and now the country is in civil war with neo-Nazi's fighting on the side of the government.
    It caused unrest in Venezuela and now people are starving under sanctions.
    They supported the coup in Bolivia and now someone that nobody voted for is banning political parties and changing internal and foreign policies.
    Iran has protests as a result from the US putting sanctions on everyone they don't like.
    Israel is about to eradicate the Palestinians because Trump gave them the thumbs up.
    Do I even need to begin about Afghanistan, Iraq and all the consequences from those wars? People are DYING in Europe because the mess created in Iraq resulted in ISIS.

    People that I knew have DIED because of US foreign policy.
    So yeah, every day that I have to wait for someone else to take over is one day too long.

    To end the post: Check my signature. That's why.
    The world would be a better place with a communist party leading the most powerful and influential nation.


    And no Thwart, this isn't nation bashing. All of these are facts which bring me to the conclusion that I'd be better off if another nation took the lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Another one who doesnt understand how war works or how that specific war was even fought.



    And another one. Best one was one of your kind saying that China could get 100 million soldiers and have them invade USA. Because logistics and actual capability is not a thing.
    China has plenty of villages to massacre for the Americans soldiers to get distracted and forget about winning the war.
    But will you be joining the military when the US invades?
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