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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Hehe, this is so funny.
    I like how everyone responded to my question back in the day what version of vanilla = true vanilla with "1.12". Guess they got what they wanted
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow.

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by netherflame View Post
    Welcome to playing a game that people have already learned to optimize, the problem is AV needs to do things to actually force you to destroy the towers and people have been saying that for years but Blizz didn't listen.
    It's not about people learning to optimize. It's about AV being nerfed. The only reason you needed to destroy towers was the fact that you couldnt kill Drek/Van with marshals/warmasters present with the gear the people have now. In 1.12 AV you can easily do that.
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  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    I honestly just don't get it.

    Its like skipping to the end of a book or movie.

    Or playing against your self in cards.

    Like.... If you find a game how it's intended so much bother you want to change it be removing or skipping or speeding up content, why bother playing it at all when there's millions of other things you can do with your free time
    You are literally forcing someone to play the way you want.

    Newsflash, not everyone plays the same way.

    As you cant force the shit player to get better or he unsubs, you cant force the person that wants to find the fastest way possible to achieve something to stop.

    Not everyone has some tiny little goal or whatever excuse you tell yourself so you can lie to yourself about your skill level/choices in the game.

    Especially when its a "book" or a "movie" you have done 3000 times before.

    They want to grind to be superior, thats all WoW Classic is, who grinds the most to get to 1 shotting the rest first.

    But yeah, unicorn farts and rainbows for the average low skilled player that believes leveling is content.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitros14 View Post
    Isn't it exactly what Alterac Valley was in 1.12? If so the players are ruining it not blizzard.
    Yes. I don't remember the patch, but AV became a rush fest with games easily ending after 5-10 minutes.

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Zendhal The Black View Post
    You think you do, but you don't...

    You wanted NoChanges Vanilla AV from 1.12 patch (that private servers all run on) and you got it

    Now you don't want it so you want the other AV...

    what's next? You'll want beta Karazhan or alpha troll models?
    No one wanted 1.12 patch AV. Go to the WoW forums and one of the most upvoted posts ever is the one requesting 1.5 AV instead of 1.12 BACK IN MARCH when blizzard announced they would use the 1.12 version. It is honestly pathetic that Blizzard was so lazy that they used this version.
    Last edited by GreenJesus; 2019-12-11 at 06:16 PM.

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by david0925 View Post
    You can't expect people to "un-figure out" AV and just have a brawl in the middle just so you can relive your childhood. If you have a lot of people in there just to honor farm and the best way to honor farm is zerging, win or lose, it is what you're going to get.
    and that the bigges problem of both classic and retail.

    to many to loud people who want time machine to go back 15 years in past . and throw a tantrum when wow doesnt offer that

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    As you cant force the shit player to get better or he unsubs, you cant force the person that wants to find the fastest way possible to achieve something to stop.
    You can. Vanilla did it just fine. You had to learn or else.
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  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderball View Post
    You can. Vanilla did it just fine. You had to learn or else.
    Or else you still cleared the content up until 50% of Naxx, I know.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderball View Post
    You can. Vanilla did it just fine. You had to learn or else.
    Learn or else what?

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    WOOO! someone tossed the word salad a little too long. Just remember, it is THEIR free time, not yours. How arrogant do you have to be to think you get to say what people should or shouldn't do with their spare time, and even HOW they should be playing certain games.
    not very. id say the same thing if i saw some one hitting there head against the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    You are literally forcing someone to play the way you want.

    Newsflash, not everyone plays the same way.

    As you cant force the shit player to get better or he unsubs, you cant force the person that wants to find the fastest way possible to achieve something to stop.

    Not everyone has some tiny little goal or whatever excuse you tell yourself so you can lie to yourself about your skill level/choices in the game.

    Especially when its a "book" or a "movie" you have done 3000 times before.

    They want to grind to be superior, thats all WoW Classic is, who grinds the most to get to 1 shotting the rest first.

    But yeah, unicorn farts and rainbows for the average low skilled player that believes leveling is content.
    no but i can tell some one who keeps giving feedback like "i like AVs that involve running straight to the boss and ending in 3 mins" to sit down or fuck off, because that makes the game for the most of us worse.

    wow is an MMO, that means its a shared space, that means GIVE as well as take, if you don't like people passing comment then play a single player game, if not, then tuff tits mate, because the comments will still come in.

  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    not very. id say the same thing if i saw some one hitting there head against the wall.

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    no but i can tell some one who keeps giving feedback like "i like AVs that involve running straight to the boss and ending in 3 mins" to sit down of fuck off, because that makes the game for the most of us worse.

    wow is an mmo, that means its a shared space, that means GIVE as well as take, if you dont like people passing comment then play a single player game, if not then tuff tits mate because the comments will still come in.
    "Most of us". Got a source that it's most of the ppl who dont want those quick games? Cause "most" ppl I know want to get in, get the kill for rep, get out, repeat until exalted and get their epic.

  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by ellieg View Post
    "Most of us". Got a source that it's most of the ppl who dont want those quick games? Cause "most" ppl I know want to get in, get the kill for rep, get out, repeat until exalted and get their epic.
    I'm one of those people who wanted long AVs back but at least I was under no illusion how classic would play out
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow.

  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    not very. id say the same thing if i saw some one hitting there head against the wall.

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    no but i can tell some one who keeps giving feedback like "i like AVs that involve running straight to the boss and ending in 3 mins" to sit down or fuck off, because that makes the game for the most of us worse.

    wow is an MMO, that means its a shared space, that means GIVE as well as take, if you don't like people passing comment then play a single player game, if not, then tuff tits mate, because the comments will still come in.
    But, you are the problem, not the other person, the other person is playing the game correctly, maximizing honor/rep gain over time, you are just an entitled snowflake that expects that everyone will forget everything and play in the middle while mouth drooling like they did in 2005.

  14. #174
    Played few games and kinda regretted it... it's not FUN at all.

  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderball View Post
    You're trolling. Noone refined anything. They completely changed AV in the middle of TBC again.


    Nothing about what I'm saying should fall into the category of trolling. Are you telling me that there were 0 improvements to strats used in classic. If so lol ok have a nice day
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  16. #176
    Back in Vanilla players (the Horde) on my server managed to pull off up to 30 consecutive wins on one afternoon - made mocking forum posts about it back then. This is not a big difference. It's not the oldschool AV. And even that on retail can be done in ~12-15 minutes with 4 bunkers/towers down.

  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightstalker View Post
    Back in Vanilla players (the Horde) on my server managed to pull off up to 30 consecutive wins on one afternoon - made mocking forum posts about it back then. This is not a big difference. It's not the oldschool AV. And even that on retail can be done in ~12-15 minutes with 4 bunkers/towers down.
    yeah we used to do ~15 min AVs, the difference was we HAD to take EVERY tower, EVERY bunker to kill the boss. in the mean time, we also took both mines and all the relevant GYs(and all other side objectives). the only thing they have to do, again, to make it like it was in vanilla, it make the warmasters unkillable death machines who cant be kited.

  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Hubbl3 View Post
    I like how everyone responded to my question back in the day what version of vanilla = true vanilla with "1.12". Guess they got what they wanted
    Yeap.
    Then again, whatever version Blizzard would have picked here it would have upset someone.

  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Yeap.
    Then again, whatever version Blizzard would have picked here it would have upset someone.
    Which is why they should have gone through vanilla with all the patches - or at least the major ones. Yeah, that includes some of the most imbalanced stuff this game has ever seen, but so was it back in the day.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow.

  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Felrane View Post
    Yep it was the worst version for the last few months of Vanilla. Korrak's revenge on Retail is almost the same AV people remember. Blizzard should just copy and paste it into Classic. They can cave in the side paths with the gnolls and trolls/Korrak but keep the rest imo.
    Source please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphrel View Post
    The players will play in wichever way give the most honor/hour.

    Im slightly surprised thou that they arent capping the towers. Doesn't they give alot of honor each?
    Wrong.

    Players are playing for rep. In two weeks once the better players are exalted you will see a change in tactics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

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