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  1. #421
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    If they want to reuse xbox, maybe they should get some good exclusives again xd

  2. #422
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/it...CAD-01-10abi2f



    So now this generation is just "Xbox".



    But not this one, a different one.

    Seriously, Microsoft's approach to branding is back asswards.
    Imagine if they just called it "Xbox Scarlet" and made it white and red instead of white/black and green? instead of learning nothing from the Wii U.
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  3. #423
    Quote Originally Posted by Thoriangun View Post
    I would say so, the underlying ram should be faster along with the gpu and storage system having better compression and decompression techniques applied to it.

    Also the system should be faster at dealing with throughput of data through out the whole system in comparison, I think only time issues arise is when you get a asset which file size exceeds 8gb in one go, but don't think we have seen that in a game yet.

    There are some games that are the exceptions but they are special exceptions but the only one that comes to mind is the new MS flight simulator but thats a game thats trying to generate well the world.

    The XBone X used polaris which had very little compression on the data applied, Navi 2 is meant to use more compression and variable rate shaders.
    https://www.gamespew.com/2020/09/xbo...soft-confirms/

    This should of been obvious, but no with less memory and a weaker GPU it can not run XOX enhancements in BC mode.

  4. #424
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    https://www.gamespew.com/2020/09/xbo...soft-confirms/

    This should of been obvious, but no with less memory and a weaker GPU it can not run XOX enhancements in BC mode.
    I'm not so sure that gpu is actually weaker.

    the RX 5700 XT alone shows that the TF measurement on that card skews performance compared to Polaris and even to the Vega GPUs.

    The XBX one X may have more CUs but the Navi chip is loads better.

    The comparable GPU in the navi line up that exists on desktop right now is the AMD 5500 XT if you want to use CU to CU count.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FksJ...el=GameGangsta

    This shows the Equivalent gpu with Navi being better and we are seeing a newer generation of GPU inside the series S.

    The hardware is there compared to the XBX one X.

  5. #425
    Quote Originally Posted by Thoriangun View Post
    The hardware is there compared to the XBX one X.
    Clearly not since it won't be running One X enhancements...

  6. #426
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    https://www.gamespew.com/2020/09/xbo...soft-confirms/

    This should of been obvious, but no with less memory and a weaker GPU it can not run XOX enhancements in BC mode.
    That technically makes the Xbox One X better than the Series S even tho it has a better CPU. Adds another reason why MS took it off the market.
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  7. #427
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    That technically makes the Xbox One X better than the Series S even tho it has a better CPU. Adds another reason why MS took it off the market.
    Great news, game lovers can now play hundreds of games belonging to all 4 generations. Simply the fastest console.

  8. #428
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Clearly not since it won't be running One X enhancements...
    Thats not confirming the hardware in the series S is inferior, I literally linked you a benchmark of comparable hardware that exists that should in theory show the Series S actually using a more powerful GPU.

    Navi is more powerful then Polaris GPU used in the XBXone X.

    The link you provided is strange because in another line, it adds;

    “Xbox Series S was designed to be the most affordable next generation console and play next generation games at 1440P at 60fps. To deliver the highest quality backwards compatible experience consistent with the developer’s original intent, the Xbox Series S runs the Xbox One S version of backward compatible games while applying improved texture filtering, higher and more consistent frame rates, faster load times and Auto HDR.”

    Its enhanced in other areas it seems.

  9. #429
    The only thing you're not getting on the Series S is 4k in BC games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erous View Post
    This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you. I'm assuming you can probably attach an xbox compatible SSD through USB similar to how you can do it in today's console which is probably what I'll repurpose mine for.
    Be aware thought that you can't RUN games from external USB drives on the Series machines. You can only use it as local backup storage.
    If you want to expand your usable storage for games in your rotation you have to use those NVMe cards MS is releasing for Series S/X

  10. #430
    Quote Originally Posted by Thoriangun View Post
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    Guy asked if it would run Xbox One X enhancements, you replied saying it's possible yet it isn't because it's not happening.

    Anything else is a massive goal post shift. It can't play games at Xbox One X settings, that is the reality here. It has it's advantages over the One X, but the GPU is just not made to play games above 1440p and most One X games run above that, a lot even reaching native 4k.

  11. #431
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Guy asked if it would run Xbox One X enhancements, you replied saying it's possible yet it isn't because it's not happening.

    Anything else is a massive goal post shift. It can't play games at Xbox One X settings, that is the reality here. It has it's advantages over the One X, but the GPU is just not made to play games above 1440p and most One X games run above that, a lot even reaching native 4k.
    If they decide to not let it run at 4K, then let them, benchmarks with comparable cards show the performance is there, what ever reason they decided is what they decided.

    It is strange for a GPU (polaris) is not a 4K card from the get go as its only 4 CU above the desktop equivalent and that was literally targeted as a 1080p card from AMD to a card (Navi) which on desktop is a 1440P targeted card (esp with a new arch this time round), let you take that as you will.

    Would not surprise me if down the line this changes.

  12. #432
    Quote Originally Posted by Thoriangun View Post
    If they decide to not let it run at 4K, then let them, benchmarks with comparable cards show the performance is there, what ever reason they decided is what they decided.

    It is strange for a GPU (polaris) is not a 4K card from the get go as its only 4 CU above the desktop equivalent and that was literally targeted as a 1080p card from AMD to a card (Navi) which on desktop is a 1440P targeted card (esp with a new arch this time round), let you take that as you will.

    Would not surprise me if down the line this changes.
    Guy doesn't like being wrong so apparently they chose to not do it to sell more One Xs I guess. Oh wait, they discontinued it. Not all flops are equal but we are talking a 2 TF difference here AND a 1 GB VRam disadvantage. In what fantasy world do you think they can click some magic button and ignore this just because it's newer architecture and more efficient? Those are massive differences on the GPU front, and while the CPU and SSD run circles around the One X they can't help with this at all.
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  13. #433
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Guy doesn't like being wrong so apparently they chose to not do it to sell more One Xs I guess. Oh wait, they discontinued it. Not all flops are equal but we are talking a 2 TF difference here AND a 1 GB VRam disadvantage. In what fantasy world do you think they can click some magic button and ignore this just because it's newer architecture and more efficient? Those are massive differences on the GPU front, and while the CPU and SSD run circles around the One X they can't help with this at all.

    You are right that not all TF are equal, heres some data.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-spec...-vega-64.c2871

    The RX Vega 64 will offer a typical boost range of 1546 MHz, a base clock of 1247 MHz, and a board power of 295W. Those figures are good for 12.66 TFLOPS of peak single-precision performance and 25.3 TFLOPS of half-precision throughput.

    For the 5700 XT

    https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-spec...-5700-xt.c3339

    At up to 9.75 TFLOPs and 7.95 TFLOPs of raw computing power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS0J...l=TestingGames

    heres a benchmark between these 2 gpus.

    THE AMD NAVI GPU DESTROYS THE MUCH HIGHER TF AMD VEGA 64.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
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    why do you hate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Zanjin View Post
    why do you hate?
    Why wouldnt i hate scalpers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Why wouldnt i hate scalpers?
    i was unsure of your meaning behind it.
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  18. #438
    Just pre-ordered the $600 one via MS directly.

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    Got one at best buy xd

  20. #440
    So ummm a lot of people are gonna be pissed.

    Sales of the Xbox One X has spiked 431% On Amazon.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/movers-and...language=en_US

    Nice naming MS 10/10.
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