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  1. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    The console itself looks fine, but boy the naming. The people in charge of its name...need a good talking to.
    I've no idea how any sane marketing department greenlights such a boring AND confusing name, unless they really think making random Joes buy an old gen console by accident is going to actually impact the sales of these consoles by a significant degree.
    It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built -Kreia

  2. #482
    They're just doing what Nvidia and Sony are doing (and what Apple has been doing forever). Offering very limited supply so they get headlines and hype about them "selling out in seconds".

    It's seriously not a great idea to buy version 1.0 of these kind of things. There are ALWAYS issues (look at 3080's currently).

    Better to wait a bit, let them sort out the issues. You'll likely even pay less once you get it. I have a feeling AMD is going to take a dump on Nvidia with RDNA2 and force them to lower prices and come out with higher VRAM cards.

    Better to just wait.

  3. #483
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo03 View Post
    They're just doing what Nvidia and Sony are doing (and what Apple has been doing forever). Offering very limited supply so they get headlines and hype about them "selling out in seconds".

    It's seriously not a great idea to buy version 1.0 of these kind of things. There are ALWAYS issues (look at 3080's currently).

    Better to wait a bit, let them sort out the issues. You'll likely even pay less once you get it. I have a feeling AMD is going to take a dump on Nvidia with RDNA2 and force them to lower prices and come out with higher VRAM cards.

    Better to just wait.
    Time is a commodity I hold most esteemed, and I suggest that even in waiting, there is a cost.

  4. #484
    Quote Originally Posted by everydaygamer View Post
    We don't even know how the PS5 performs yet and we won't know until people start getting there hands on it, People are playing around with Series X right now so at least have an idea of how well the final version will run.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    im sorry but do you have comparison loading times you would like to reference as neither are out.
    5.5GB/s (Raw), Typical 8-9GB/s (Compressed) vs 2.4GB/s (Raw), 4.8GB/s (Compressed) https://www.psu.com/news/ps5-ssd-vs-...ich-is-better/

    We don't need to see a damn thing to know the SSD in the PS5 is making the one in the XSX look like a turtle. You can literally look at the stat sheet above.
    Last edited by Tech614; 2020-09-29 at 10:01 AM.

  5. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    5.5GB/s (Raw), Typical 8-9GB/s (Compressed) vs 2.4GB/s (Raw), 4.8GB/s (Compressed) https://www.psu.com/news/ps5-ssd-vs-...ich-is-better/

    We don't need to see a damn thing to know the SSD in the PS5 is making the one in the XSX look like a turtle. You can literally look at the stat sheet above.
    We've yet to see how this actually affects games. Both systems have very fast SSDs. If both systems fully utilize their SSD the PS5 can full load it's ram in 1.5 seconds vs 3.5 with the Series X/S.

    Clearly performance is more than just reading things off disk and into ram so we really actually need to see the ramifications of the custom storage controllers that all of the next gen boxes have.

  6. #486
    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    I've no idea how any sane marketing department greenlights such a boring AND confusing name, unless they really think making random Joes buy an old gen console by accident is going to actually impact the sales of these consoles by a significant degree.
    People who are in any way interested in NextGen know the differences. If Joe random is too stupid to do like 1 minute of google searching deserves to buy the wrong console.
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  7. #487
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Both systems have very fast SSDs.
    False, one has a very fast SSD the other has generic nvme speed. SSDs as fast as the one in PS5 cost about as much as the PS5 does itself, it's incredibly disingenuous to even remotely compare it to what's in series X. There is a reason you're losing 200 GB in space to a shitty hibernation feature to mask load times on Series X.
    Last edited by Tech614; 2020-09-29 at 02:37 PM.

  8. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    False, one has a very fast SSD the other has generic nvme speed. SSDs as fast as the one in PS5 cost about as much as the PS5 does itself, it's incredibly disingenuous to even remotely compare it to what's in series X. There is a reason you're losing 200 GB in space to a shitty hibernation feature to mask load times on Series X.
    False.

    Both the new consoles are using custom firmware and storage controllers for newer games. We haven't seen load times for next gen games for EITHER console. The PS5 SSD is better, but its not the be all end all. Both devices are going to vastly outperform what we can do on PC right now due to the storage optimizations we're only starting to get.

    Also if you think you're going to the full 825 GB of space on the PS5, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

  9. #489
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    False.

    Both the new consoles are using custom firmware and storage controllers for newer games. We haven't seen load times for next gen games for EITHER console. The PS5 SSD is better, but its not the be all end all. Both devices are going to vastly outperform what we can do on PC right now due to the storage optimizations we're only starting to get.

    Also if you think you're going to the full 825 GB of space on the PS5, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
    The difference in ssd speeds that the above are jacking off over are going to result in such a small difference in loading times between the two. Both of PCIE gen 4. Both have alot more going on behind the scene than raw throughput.

    https://kotaku.com/today-s-xbox-seri...new-1845207650

    as for storage options the amount of time it takes to transfer a game from a usb 3.0 external to the internal is less time than it takes for me to take a shit, some games its 3 minutes others its 7. FFS jacking off over the internal size should have ended years ago when external high capacity solutions became commonplace. Yes games are big, you want 4k then thats 4k textures, HD audio, dolby atmos ect takes alot of space. Some devs are better than others at compressing it.

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