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  1. #161
    surprisingly they haven't yet gone after him for colluding with the reptilians that live at Antarctica.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    That's nice... then put me on ignore.

    I am not here for you... I am here for normal people that are reading this, but may not be posting who have not been regicalized yet by people like you or Skroe.
    “Normal” people. You just remind me of my people like my cousin and the “new age” bullshit walking around like they are ascended beings or god like beings stuck in human bodies. As if they truly didn’t have the same physical and mental limits as “normal” people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    As the master of the faith of moral relativism, it's funny how you don't even see yourself as morally or politically radicalized. You may not take the side of Republicans or Democrats, but you in your own way have a very radical opinion. You're not here for anyone else. You're here as the preacher sitting on a soap box on the street corner, screaming the "truths" to those darn radicals. You hold yourself in such high esteem not even realizing you're looking down your nose at people, while you yourself berate people for doing what you perceive as looking down on others, including your numerous speeches about how Democrats view the people of the earth.

    You very unironically preach one thing and then practice the exact opposite sentiment. And I reiterate, you are not here for anyone except your own self righteousness, a concept that you look down upon others for having. Yet you are so radicalized that you can't even see your own actions in the mirror for what they are.\

    You are the very thing you speak out against. Jung's ideas of projection are in full swing. The very flaws you berate others for having, you only berate them because they subconsciously exist within your own psyche.
    It's a particular irony... one of the things that attracted me to conservatism as a teenager was moral absolutism in contrast to the moral relativism of the left, and yet here we are 20 years later (I'm 36) and the Trumphadis have entirely embraced moral relativism and it's Democrats who are standing firmly and declaring "this is wrong".

    A lot of people on the right sold their principles for relevance. A cornerstone of conservatism is that one of the purposes of the state is to manage a society built upon a foundation of explicit and immutable morals. In Trump, we've seen nothing but the decadence and depravity of people who preached that for years or decades, and then when Trump came around, decided he was a latter day Cyrus and started creating exceptions as to why he was, to put it poetically, a "Good Sinner".

    For my part my conviction in the existence of right and wrong, good and evil hasn't fundamentally changed. What's changed a great deal is that some people who ostensibly believed in that have long since abandoned it because they decided they liked money, they liked television and they liked power.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    By normal people I mean people that don't exalt calling others "you people" or "real Americans".

    I am not "New Age"...
    There are no normal people everyone is a weirdo that's the wisdom that comes from age.

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    He gets acquitted in the Senate and now the House is at risk in 2020.

    Dems might be doing the right thing but they've never been good at the optics game.

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    I doubt it.

    Look at some of the farmers who have been badly affected by the tariffs. Many/some are still sticking with him because they think it's their patriotic duty to weather this storm. And if the deal with China is close, the Dems won't even have that to attack him with.
    So, you are saying nothing will stop you Trump supporters from continuing to support him... good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you are saying nothing will stop you Trump supporters from continuing to support him... good to know.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ampaign-Thread
    They defended him backing a pedophile and attacking veterans dead or alive so there's no limit to their depravity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    They defended him backing a pedophile and attacking veterans dead or alive so there's no limit to their depravity.
    Well, we know it wasn't racism, misogyny, national socialism, lies, or peeping in on underage girls.

    Of course, 54% of them said they would have supported Kavanaugh, even if he were proven to be guilty of sexual assault.

    https://www.npr.org/about-npr/651750...rett-kavanaugh

    Now, I'm not sure how many people in my "unaffiliated" party would support sexual assault, but I highly doubt it's 54%.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Or, maybe, just maybe, I am following his example.
    I mean when all your arguments fail, pretend to be running a thought experiment for those you've been arguing with. The perfect way to see everyone else as beneath your superior mental capacities.

    I don't know what I find worse, that you're pretending this is all just your psychology experiment, or your continuously berating people for being and doing the very things you do and are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I don't care if he committed tax fraud. Scoring political victories and crushing the aspirations of your political opponents is more important than adhering to moral principles.
    Knadra finally just admitting Trumpkins care more about political victories than morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    I mean when all your arguments fail, pretend to be running a thought experiment for those you've been arguing with. The perfect way to see everyone else as beneath your superior mental capacities.

    I don't know what I find worse, that you're pretending this is all just your psychology experiment, or your continuously berating people for being and doing the very things you do and are.
    It's rather odd watching people radicalized into alt-righters in real time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

  10. #170
    my biggest worry is what if trump wins re election, and regains the house, there will be no fetters on what he can do, he might actually try to amend the 22nd amendment. I was a big supporter of impeachment but even i see the democrats botched it, they are actually better if they let the investigation go multiple months and wait for court to enforce subpeonas, and gather evidence, i think its obvious trump did do what hes accused of but we dont have the evidence we need because its still going through the courts in regards to subpeonas, i dont know what nancys game plan is, i understand her argument that if she dosent impeach trump will feel like there is no punishment for his abuse of power, but i think an investigation was enough, and leaving it ongoing like the mueller probe was through 2018 is actually more beneficial, i guess this proves she isnt playing politics, because i cant see the political gain of rushing it to the senate, or maybe shes doing 6d chess i dont understand
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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    my biggest worry is what if trump wins re election, and regains the house, there will be no fetters on what he can do, he might actually try to amend the 22nd amendment. I was a big supporter of impeachment but even i see the democrats botched it, they are actually better if they let the investigation go multiple months and wait for court to enforce subpeonas, and gather evidence, i think its obvious trump did do what hes accused of but we dont have the evidence we need because its still going through the courts in regards to subpeonas, i dont know what nancys game plan is, i understand her argument that if she dosent impeach trump will feel like there is no punishment for his abuse of power, but i think an investigation was enough, and leaving it ongoing like the mueller probe was through 2018 is actually more beneficial, i guess this proves she isnt playing politics, because i cant see the political gain of rushing it to the senate, or maybe shes doing 6d chess i dont understand
    We don't have evidence? THEY FUCKING ADMITTED TO IT ON LIVE TV NOT ONCE BUT TWICE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    my biggest worry is what if trump wins re election, and regains the house, there will be no fetters on what he can do, he might actually try to amend the 22nd amendment. I was a big supporter of impeachment but even i see the democrats botched it, they are actually better if they let the investigation go multiple months and wait for court to enforce subpeonas, and gather evidence, i think its obvious trump did do what hes accused of but we dont have the evidence we need because its still going through the courts in regards to subpeonas, i dont know what nancys game plan is, i understand her argument that if she dosent impeach trump will feel like there is no punishment for his abuse of power, but i think an investigation was enough, and leaving it ongoing like the mueller probe was through 2018 is actually more beneficial, i guess this proves she isnt playing politics, because i cant see the political gain of rushing it to the senate, or maybe shes doing 6d chess i dont understand
    Says the poster who hasn't been paying attention at all for the past six months.
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  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    But this is your perspective... to Trump supporters he is the most honest president they can remember... and has done a lot of what he promised to do...

    Trump could be the most honest president in modern history
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ede_story.html
    He is so honest that he has a Wikipedia article dedicated to fact-checking him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    I mean, lots of otherwise well meaning people got caught up in his propaganda after 2016.

    There, I didn't tell you.
    To be frank, I kinda sympathized with Peterson when I first heard of him; all I saw was a guy trying to tell his story and getting shouted down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    You can be an "honest" person; or a person that lies through the teeth and be honest about who he/she is... a lier...

    Sometimes people appreciate that there is no pretense. That, to people that say he is honest, is what they usually mean... they know he is a lier, exaggerator, etc, etc... he makes it obvious.
    Ignorance is bliss until it drags everyone else down with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    It's not ignorance...

    Hillary, from the perspective of a lot of people both on the left and right, was an "honest" person... With Trump you know exactly who you are getting....
    You don’t know that.

    You don’t know exactly what trump supporters think of trump unless you study and get honest responses from a majority of his supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I see you did not get to the end of Jung's books or what he said would happen.
    I have. You're not really following too well even if you believe you are. This circles back to the part where you look down your nose at people and think you know more than they do.

    Again, if you don't like it, put me on ignore, but you seem to get off on it, so something must be working for you...
    I don't tend to ignore anyone ever. I ignore most of the bad faith posting by simply not responding, or address them with a single post. I just enjoy watching you try to squirm with everyone around you rebuking you, as you pretend to be far more righteous than you really are. Honestly, I miss the days of watching you and Theo screaming your heads off about Hillary, with your Clinton Derangement pushing conspiracies about child sex rings in pizza parlor basements. But I imagine we'll get to see a nice show from you two when the Democrat nominee for the election is finally picked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I don't care if he committed tax fraud. Scoring political victories and crushing the aspirations of your political opponents is more important than adhering to moral principles.
    Knadra finally just admitting Trumpkins care more about political victories than morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    It's not ignorance...

    Hillary, from the perspective of a lot of people both on the left and right, was an "honest" person... With Trump you know exactly who you are getting....
    Yea we know nothing he says has any merit and should be discarded

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    Well to answer the question after republicans put party, power, and greed over country. Trump will go into full campaign mode (not like he ever left it) throwing all kinds of lies, that 35% of the voting population will gulp down like good cult members. After Trump (hopefully) loses the election, and assuming he doesn't start a civil war to be removed from power, he will spend (likely) the rest of his life going from court room to court room with trips of jail time inbetween.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    They say it often in interviews and in person. You can listen to that or just assume the people that like him are all "deplorables".
    If someone collects the responses of all the interviews and compiles them in order by date and check if opinions have changed over time.

    Then that would be “ok” evidence for what trump supports think of trump.

    To bad I don’t have the time or would get paid to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordsphinx View Post
    The problem is that none of it is being covered by the media. I'm curious what the actual plans are for the upcoming year. Will this whole collusion / impeachment / orange-man-bad culture in the media die off, or are they going to find another dead horse to beat?
    You Trumpsters keep saying this like it's ironic. You know why we don't like Trump? Because he's objectively a bad person. Not because he's Republican, rich, or conservative, but be cause he's a self centered narcissistic asshole with an IQ in the single digits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Lock 'em up! Lock 'em all up! /s

    Our country is so fucking screwed.
    Yeah, because people like you let assholes like Trump in power.

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