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    TOP 10 dangerous fighters-strikers in MMA history.

    It's my top:

    1. Anthony "Rumble" Johnson



    2. Fedor "The last Emperor" Emelianenko



    3. Francis "The Predator" Ngannou



    4. Vitor "The Phenom" Belfort



    5. Alistair "The Demolition Man" Overeem



    6. Junior "Cigano" Dos Santos



    7. Mark "Super Samoan" Hunt



    8. Mirko "CroCop" Filipovic



    9. Anderson "The Spider" Silva



    10. Dan "Hendo" Henderson

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    Pretty solid list TBH, dunno if I would rank it exactly like that, I think Ngannou is scarier than Johnson, in different ways. Slower but longer and arguably more power, and maybe more precise as a boxer, Rumble was always kind of a slugger.
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    You have a lot of people on this list that although they have 1 punch KO power they aren't necessarily the best strikers. I would have Cormier and Stipe on the before I would put Ngannou and Dos Santos. Plus Diaz brothers can put on a striking clinic on just about anyone. Diaz brothers may not be one punch artists but their output is phenomenal. Hunt and Hendo are questionable. Dangerous one punch artists but if they didn't land that one punch then they were done. Jon Jones, Cowboy Cerrone, Conor McGregor, Aldo and Shogun so many others. With so many weight classes it's hard to make a top 10 list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianwei23 View Post
    You have a lot of people on this list that although they have 1 punch KO power they aren't necessarily the best strikers. I would have Cormier and Stipe on the before I would put Ngannou and Dos Santos. Plus Diaz brothers can put on a striking clinic on just about anyone. Diaz brothers may not be one punch artists but their output is phenomenal. Hunt and Hendo are questionable. Dangerous one punch artists but if they didn't land that one punch then they were done. Jon Jones, Cowboy Cerrone, Conor McGregor, Aldo and Shogun so many others. With so many weight classes it's hard to make a top 10 list.
    He made the list for Dangerous strikers, not best boxers, certainly not "best output with zero KO power". Everyone in that list proved they can turn someone's light off out of freaking nowhere, I think that's what he's aiming for, not necessarily technical strikers or people who will outpoint to a decision win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrawlFromThePit View Post
    Pretty solid list TBH, dunno if I would rank it exactly like that, I think Ngannou is scarier than Johnson, in different ways. Slower but longer and arguably more power, and maybe more precise as a boxer, Rumble was always kind of a slugger.
    We don’t know how good Ngannou is against fresh fighters like Rozenstruik (not veterans Orlovskiy,Velazquez and Cygano). We know that Ramble has in his arsenal the powerful left highkick aKa CroCop ( knocked out Burns and Brenneman), powerful overhand which he almost knocked Cormier out of octagon and nearly killed Manuwa, an uppercut capable of knocking out teeth (knocked out Teixeira). In addition, Ramble fought with light heavyweight tops when most of them were at the peak of their careers (Gusstafson, Bader who knocked out Fedor, Manuwa, Cormier, Glover, Phil Davis), while Ngannou won fighters already lost their peak condition - Overeem, Dos Santos,
    Velasquez.
    Rumble is more diverse in the rack compared to Ngannou, which has just good boxing, which is not fact that it is better than Anthony Johnson's boxing. Besides good boxing work with hands, Ngannu nothing more to show in the rack against Rumble.

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    Shogun and Wanderlei Silva should be on this list. Solid list otherwise.
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    where chuck liddel and bas at?

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    1. Brock Lesnar
    2. "The World's Most Dangerous Man" Ken Shamrock
    3. Matt Riddle
    4. Bobby Lashley
    5. Jake Hager
    6. Ronda Rousey
    7. New Jack w/ a gun when referee isn't looking
    8. Kurt Angle
    9. Shayna Baszler
    10. CM Punk

    Honorable mention: Cain Valesquez (sp?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Shogun and Wanderlei Silva should be on this list. Solid list otherwise.
    Shogun and Wanderlei lost to Henderson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    1. Brock Lesnar
    2. "The World's Most Dangerous Man" Ken Shamrock
    3. Matt Riddle
    4. Bobby Lashley
    5. Jake Hager
    6. Ronda Rousey
    7. New Jack w/ a gun when referee isn't looking
    8. Kurt Angle
    9. Shayna Baszler
    10. CM Punk

    Honorable mention: Cain Valesquez (sp?)
    As I understand it, it's just the top favorite fighters, as Rosie and Lesnar are mediocre strickers.

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    Interesting list.

    Anthony Johnson never really beat anyone good in their prime, outside of that, he was fun to watch.

    Fedor in his prime, not sure we've seen anyone better.

    Nganu is still too early to tell. He's lost to a couple of chumps, with his kinda power, that's unacceptable.

    With the juice, Overeem was barely a B level fighter. While he was on it, my gosh. Now? Well, he's just a gatekeeper for new guys.

    The rest of the list is okay I guess. It's missing Chuck Liddell though. That's a pretty big miss. Even Chris Leben should be on this list above a few guys.

    Wanderlei and Vitor in their heyday were by far the scariest strikers I've seen in MMA. Even to this day. The speed and power of that berzerker rush style were great. Shogun had a little bit of that, but never quite like those guys. But again, while in Japan, they were fully juiced to the gills, so it made them seem better than they really were. As we saw when they were in the UFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    where chuck liddel and bas at?
    I took the fighters regardless of the weight category, despite the fact that he defeated Belfort by a decision, I decided that Belfort was more dangerous in the rack because he won 18 wins by knockouts, and “Iceman” only 13. Information from Sherdog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    where chuck liddel and bas at?
    Great post fuckwit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    Interesting list.

    Anthony Johnson never really beat anyone good in their prime, outside of that, he was fun to watch.

    Fedor in his prime, not sure we've seen anyone better.

    Nganu is still too early to tell. He's lost to a couple of chumps, with his kinda power, that's unacceptable.

    With the juice, Overeem was barely a B level fighter. While he was on it, my gosh. Now? Well, he's just a gatekeeper for new guys.

    The rest of the list is okay I guess. It's missing Chuck Liddell though. That's a pretty big miss. Even Chris Leben should be on this list above a few guys.

    Wanderlei and Vitor in their heyday were by far the scariest strikers I've seen in MMA. Even to this day. The speed and power of that berzerker rush style were great. Shogun had a little bit of that, but never quite like those guys. But again, while in Japan, they were fully juiced to the gills, so it made them seem better than they really were. As we saw when they were in the UFC.
    In the strike technique, few were better than Fedor at the peak. Yes, but still there were.
    Fedor was primarily a hardy warrior who suffered blows. But a couple of times he was almost knocked out at Pride, unfortunately this is a fact.

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    I'm taking as a criterion the probable victory of fighter by knockout, dimensions of fighter, variety in percussion technique, the number of knockouts in the career and my general impression of a fighter + the opinion of various sources ( media and themselves fighters) about who is more dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funcik View Post
    In the strike technique, few were better than Fedor at the peak. Yes, but still there were.
    Fedor was primarily a hardy warrior who suffered blows. But a couple of times he was almost knocked out at Pride, unfortunately this is a fact.

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    I'm taking as a criterion the probable victory of fighter by knockout, dimensions of fighter, variety in percussion technique, the number of knockouts in the career and my general impression of a fighter + the opinion of various sources ( media and themselves fighters) about who is more dangerous.
    That's fair, then Liddell should be on your list for sure. Has more KOs than a few folks, and sometimes total lights out KOs. Not only that, if Nganu is on there, and Overeem, and Mark hunt, but not the dude that KO'd hunt? Melvin Manhoef, is/was a fucking KO monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    Interesting list.

    Anthony Johnson never really beat anyone good in their prime, outside of that, he was fun to watch.

    Fedor in his prime, not sure we've seen anyone better.

    Nganu is still too early to tell. He's lost to a couple of chumps, with his kinda power, that's unacceptable.

    With the juice, Overeem was barely a B level fighter. While he was on it, my gosh. Now? Well, he's just a gatekeeper for new guys.

    The rest of the list is okay I guess. It's missing Chuck Liddell though. That's a pretty big miss. Even Chris Leben should be on this list above a few guys.

    Wanderlei and Vitor in their heyday were by far the scariest strikers I've seen in MMA. Even to this day. The speed and power of that berzerker rush style were great. Shogun had a little bit of that, but never quite like those guys. But again, while in Japan, they were fully juiced to the gills, so it made them seem better than they really were. As we saw when they were in the UFC.
    Ramble takes the 2nd place in the UFC by the number of knockouts, and in the coming years it can easily become the first fighter in the history of UFC by the number of knockouts. By the way, by the number of knockouts in the first minute of the fight, he is the first in the UFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funcik View Post
    Ramble takes the 2nd place in the UFC by the number of knockouts, and in the coming years it can easily become the first fighter in the history of UFC by the number of knockouts. By the way, by the number of knockouts in the first minute of the fight, he is the first in the UFC.
    I'm not questioning those numbers in regards to him. Dude was a monster once he decided to stop trying to make 170lbs.

    I don't think he ever beats a Fedor Or Anderson Silva in his prime though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    That's fair, then Liddell should be on your list for sure. Has more KOs than a few folks, and sometimes total lights out KOs. Not only that, if Nganu is on there, and Overeem, and Mark hunt, but not the dude that KO'd hunt? Melvin Manhoef, is/was a fucking KO monster.
    The top is called "the most dangerous strikers in mma" which implies danger regardless of the weight category, i.e. those who can seriously ruin the health of other fighters.
    I don’t think Liddell will knock out Henderson or Nganna. He would be 100% in the top 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    That's fair, then Liddell should be on your list for sure. Has more KOs than a few folks, and sometimes total lights out KOs. Not only that, if Nganu is on there, and Overeem, and Mark hunt, but not the dude that KO'd hunt? Melvin Manhoef, is/was a fucking KO monster.
    Melvin Manhoef was not a MMA fighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by funcik View Post
    The top is called "the most dangerous strikers in mma" which implies danger regardless of the weight category, i.e. those who can seriously ruin the health of other fighters.
    I don’t think Liddell will knock out Henderson or Nganna. He would be 100% in the top 20.
    I get ya, and I'm fine with that. But you have to compare them respective to their status in their prime. Old Vitor off the juice beat Johnson in his prime. While sure, he could wreck somebody, if they got caught. If they didn't he was an average fighter. If that is your basis, trash can aficionado MVP should be on this list. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    I'm not questioning those numbers in regards to him. Dude was a monster once he decided to stop trying to make 170lbs.

    I don't think he ever beats a Fedor Or Anderson Silva in his prime though.
    Here the question is different if Silva performed in his prime in the middleweight, and Rumble knocked down absolutely everyone who tried to fight him in a light heavyweight stance. I think that fighting with Weidman is direct evidence that a much larger fighter will defeat someone who neglects defense in style Muhammad Ali.
    As a fighter as a whole-yes,Fedor. But like striker - Rumble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    I get ya, and I'm fine with that. But you have to compare them respective to their status in their prime. Old Vitor off the juice beat Johnson in his prime. While sure, he could wreck somebody, if they got caught. If they didn't he was an average fighter. If that is your basis, trash can aficionado MVP should be on this list. lol
    It was not a knockout, but a submission (strangulation from behind), in a blows by Rumble reached Vitor, that constantly walked away from the Ramble without going with him in exchange for blows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    I get ya, and I'm fine with that. But you have to compare them respective to their status in their prime. Old Vitor off the juice beat Johnson in his prime. While sure, he could wreck somebody, if they got caught. If they didn't he was an average fighter. If that is your basis, trash can aficionado MVP should be on this list. lol
    By the way, it is likely that Anthony Johnson and Predator Ngannou have not reached their maximum in their careers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funcik View Post
    Here the question is different if Silva performed in his prime in the middleweight, and Rumble knocked down absolutely everyone who tried to fight him in a light heavyweight stance. I think that fighting with Weidman is direct evidence that a much larger fighter will defeat someone who neglects defense in style Muhammad Ali.
    As a fighter as a whole-yes,Fedor. But like striker - Rumble.

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    It was not a knockout, but a submission (strangulation from behind), in a blows by Rumble reached Vitor, that constantly walked away from the Ramble without going with him in exchange for blows.

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    By the way, it is likely that Anthony Johnson and Predator Ngannou have not reached their maximum in their careers.
    Rumble is talking about coming back. This time at heavyweight.

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