suramar - atlantis

[Proskill]

Has anyone thought of suramar as an atlantis? Its pretty similar in concept

[arkanon]

Has anyone thought of suramar as an atlantis? Its pretty similar in concept

Have you ever thought of feet as leg hands?

[Soon-TM]

Has anyone thought of suramar as an atlantis? Its pretty similar in concept

I thought that WoW's Atlantis was Nazjatar. Suramar never sank beneath the sea iirc.

[Shaqur]

I thought that WoW's Atlantis was Nazjatar. Suramar never sank beneath the sea iirc.

Its still unknown if Atlantis actually sunk.
There is good indication that "Richat Structure" aka "Eye of Africa" is Atlantis.
It went dry from sea level dropping.


Also, not to mention, it fits Atlantis description and its "rings" perfectly.

[Lolites]

I thought that WoW's Atlantis was Nazjatar. Suramar never sank beneath the sea iirc.

wait, what? didnt Guldan raise broken isles from the sea? or he raised just the broken shore? im a bit confused now

[Corroc]

wait, what? didnt Guldan raise broken isles from the sea? or he raised just the broken shore? im a bit confused now

Broken isles have always been there.

[Razion]

Would be kind of weird, as that would kind of imply that the Moon Guard would outclass Azshara in city-saving feats, which is all kinds of inconsistent with what we know of Illidan's power being greater than the Moon Guard and how much Illidan feared and respected Azshara during the War of the Ancients.

[Lolites]

Broken isles have always been there.

well, in frozen throne it was said they were lifted from the seafloor
so maybe it was retconed to just broken shore

[Razion]

wait, what? didnt Guldan raise broken isles from the sea? or he raised just the broken shore? im a bit confused now

Citations by Dave Kossak on Twitter and Alex Afrasiabi via Wowpedia on the Broken Shore say Gul'dan only raised the Broken Shore (Thal'dranath) AKA the Tomb of Sargeras - not the entire set of islands.

[Khaza-R]

wait, what? didnt Guldan raise broken isles from the sea? or he raised just the broken shore? im a bit confused now

I believe they retconned it to be that he just raised the Broken Shore and the Tomb of Sargeras. That way they could say the Vykrul and Highmountain tribe were always there.

I guess we will see in Reforged because its suppose to "fix" the continuity between WC3 and modern WoW

[Nathanyel]

Would be kind of weird, as that would kind of imply that the Moon Guard would outclass Azshara in city-saving feats, which is all kinds of inconsistent with what we know of Illidan's power being greater than the Moon Guard and how much Illidan feared and respected Azshara during the War of the Ancients.

Suramar was shielded by a large group of mages drawing on the Nightwell's power, of course that's more powerful than a panicking Azshara, running through the streets after her plan fell apart spectacularly.

[Lolites]

I believe they retconned it to be that he just raised the Broken Shore and the Tomb of Sargeras. That way they could say the Vykrul and Highmountain tribe were always there.

I guess we will see in Reforged because its suppose to "fix" the continuity between WC3 and modern WoW

afaik the "fix" in reforged was canceled, someone mentioned it in reforged post, but i dunno, hopefuly they will fix it a bit

but yeah, already read it on gamepedia, they retconed it, fuck that

[Starfals]

I thought that WoW's Atlantis was Nazjatar. Suramar never sank beneath the sea iirc.

In warcraft 3, Maiev said that.. the ruins around the tomb of Sargeras were part of Suramar and how the kingdom sank in the bottom of the sea... or something. There are even libraries and other buildings far away from the tomb. In WoW lore, they said just the tomb sank and the city didn't.

I still like the Warcraft 3 version of the lore a bit more lol, but I guess they really wanted us to see Suramar in game.

[Razion]

Suramar was shielded by a large group of mages drawing on the Font of Night's power, of course that's more powerful than a panicking Azshara, running through the streets after her plan fell apart spectacularly.

Putting aside which is more powerful (Azshara having clout with Sargeras, N'zoth, and Kil'jaeden besides), Wowpedia cites Chronicle as stating that much of Suramar survived. It was only partial Suramar, Azshara's portion, that was directly assaulted by the Sundering. The forces that the Nightborne shielded then, were residual or consequential forces.

[zlygork]

I believe they retconned it to be that he just raised the Broken Shore and the Tomb of Sargeras. That way they could say the Vykrul and Highmountain tribe were always there.

I guess we will see in Reforged because its suppose to "fix" the continuity between WC3 and modern WoW

not anymore, reforged is just wc3 with weird graphics now, because they were too afraid of fan backlash if fans discovered that they paid money for any sort of new content on top of the new graphics.

[Khaza-R]

not anymore, reforged is just wc3 with weird graphics now, because they were too afraid of fan backlash if fans discovered that they paid money for any sort of new content on top of the new graphics.

Really? That's such a weird decision to make so late in development.

I had looked forward to a few of the things getting updated like seeing Dath'remar, but whatever.

[Soon-TM]

I still like the Warcraft 3 version of the lore a bit more lol, but I guess they really wanted us to see Suramar in game.

Indeed. As much as I loved Suramar in Legion, it was still one hell of a retcon, since Suramar in WC3 was supposed to be just ruins. I mean... How could possibly Maiev have NOT seen such a huge city on her trip to the Broken Shore.

[Alvito]

Has anyone thought of suramar as an atlantis? Its pretty similar in concept

Similar to the Stargate version since it had a shield. Other than that you are reaching pretty hard.

[Kyphael]

It's more like Venice with all the gondolas. Nazjatar was supposed to be like Atlantis but Blizzard FUCKED that up.

[Nero Duskwind]

Have you ever thought of feet as leg hands?

I've thought of hands as arm feet.