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    [TV] Disney+ Star Wars: Cassian Andor



    There's very little information about this show besides it involves the main character Cassian Andor and his side-kick K-2SO, it's set before Rogue One, about Cassian joining the rebellion. It's also described as a spy story.

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    I think this will be the grittiest of the star wars disney+ shows, Cassian will have little remorse against his enemies, K-2SO is well pretty brutal droid but his humor is great.

    I think a good idea is to bring in the character Saw Gerrera who doesn't care about 'colleteral damage' who will eventually turn Cassian away from that path but will remain a deadly weapon when needs be.

    So, with Saw Gerrera representing the darker side of the rebellion, well, it can't be a show about "the soul of the rebellion" because that is tacky n lame, but what is politically convinient. Cassian could still do plenty of missions with Saw, un-official ofc.

    I don't know what else this show could do, random assassinations?

    Well, Darth Vader leading the empire to take out a rebel base maybe. But no, we have done that before, maybe he can do some war-crimes??

    Bring in Thrawn? I have struggled where to fit in Thrawn (since no star wars rebels live action has been announced, and nothing about the Thrawn trilogy books..

    This, should be R-rated, there's no cute baby Yoda, there's no reason to hold back





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    Disney Plus Cassian Andor Star Wars spin-off: Release date, plot and cast.

    By Danny Paez 4 days ago

    Lucasfilm and Disney will continue to expand on the Star Wars universe with a second live-action series. This one is inspired by the 2016 spinoff film Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. The yet-to-be-named show will be available only on the Disney Plus streaming service, joining The Mandalorian as Disney's subscription service continues to ramp up its exclusive content.

    The upcoming series will take place before the events of Rogue One, and follow the adventures of Cassian Andor – a rebel spy who was a pivotal character in the movie. Lucasfilm first announced this deep dive into Cassian’s backstory in a November 2018 statement, describing it as a “rousing spy thriller” that would fill the gaps in the rebel captain’s shadowed past.

    While details about the new program remain under wraps, Disney has consistently teased fans with production updates and a couple of returning cast members. Here’s everything we know about the untitled Cassian Andor series coming to Disney Plus, including a release date, early cast list and all of the information that has surfaced online so far.

    Cassian Andor series release date

    The Cassian Andor series doesn’t have a premiere date yet, but diehards might have to wait until 2021 for it to air.

    During Disney’s D23 Expo 2019 on August 23, Lucasfilm executive producer Kathleen Kennedy confirmed that the Cassian series is currently in pre-production, and will go into production in 2020.

    While Cassian Andor's release date is still up in the air, by using the production timeline for The Mandalorian, we can get an idea of how long we might have to wait.

    The Mandalorian took five months to shoot: Filming began in the first week of October 2018, and wrapped in late February 2019. The show debuted on November 12, which means a total of 14 months passed between the show's first day of production and its release date.

    The Cassian series could take roughly the same amount of time, barring any major issues. That means a tentative debut sometime in 2021, depending on when Lucasfilm begins shooting.

    Cassian Andor series trailer

    There’s no trailer for the Cassian Andor series just yet. Since the show is still in pre-production, there aren’t any set photos floating around online to satiate hungry Star Wars fans, either. However, Disney has confirmed that two actors from Rogue One will return for the Disney Plus exclusive.

    Cassian Andor series cast

    Diego Luna, who played Cassian in the film, will reprise his role as the rebel spy in the Disney Plus series. The 39-year-old Mexican actor grew up watching the original Star Wars trilogy, and jumped at the opportunity to continue playing the character.

    “It’s a universe I grew up with. It’s very important in my life and love for cinema, because it’s been present since I was young,” he told Inverse. “It’s beautiful news to me. It means a lot more time to tell the story of a character, to explore many things I wanted to, and didn’t know I was able to, because we all know the ending of Rogue One.”

    Alan Tudyk will also return to voice the wisecracking K-2SO, a reprogrammed Imperial droid who accompanied Cassian on his adventures in Rogue One. Back in April, Disney announced that the 48-year-old American actor would join the cast. Lucasfilm’s Kennedy also brought both Tudyk and Luna on stage briefly to tease the show during the D23 Expo 2019.

    Cassian Andor series writers

    The Hollywood Reporter confirmed last November that Stephen Schiff would be the Cassian Andor's showrunner. Schiff was not involved with Rogue One, but received two Emmy nominations for his work on FX's The Americans.

    Tony Gilroy, who co-wrote the Rogue One screenplay with Chris Weitz, will return to work on the TV series. Variety reported that Gilroy will write the pilot for the series, and direct multiple episodes. Weitz wrote the screenplays for the first four Jason Bourne films.

    What to expect in the Cassian Andor series

    The series will take place before the events of Rogue One, which itself falls between Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope.

    The 2016 film follows the story of a ragtag team of freedom fighters from the Rebel Alliance. They embark on a mission to steal the construction plans for the Death Star, the Galactic Empire’s planet-obliterating superweapon. Cassian is a covert-operations specialist who plays a central role in the plan, and who has been a member of the rebel group for decades.

    Rogue One reveals that Cassian has been fighting as a rebel since he was six years old' he mentions that he’s lost people close to him due to the Empire’s oppressive regime. The Disney Plus show could include flashbacks of a young Cassian suffering terrible losses at the hands of the Empire, and reveal how it shaped him into the expert spy we saw in Rogue One.

    The program will also almost certainly include K-2SO's origin story, and explain how he was reprogrammed to assist the Rebel Alliance. There was no mention in Rogue One of how the rebels turned the droid from an Imperial pawn into a quick-witted sidekick. But it’s likely that Cassian had a lot to do with that process.

    Rogue One was proof that Star Wars fans want a deeper look at the inner workings of the franchise’s universe. The film grossed $1 billion worldwide, making it the third-highest-grossing entry in the series. The Cassian Andor show will expand on a story that clearly struck a chord with audiences, and may attract more users to Disney Plus.





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    Andor | Teaser Trailer | Disney+

    Star Wars
    May 26, 2022



    The “Andor” series will explore a new perspective from the Star Wars galaxy, focusing on Cassian Andor’s journey to discover the difference he can make. The series brings forward the tale of the burgeoning rebellion against the Empire and how people and planets became involved. It’s an era filled with danger, deception and intrigue where Cassian will embark on the path that is destined to turn him into a rebel hero.

    Diego Luna returns as Cassian Andor and is joined by cast members Genevieve O’Reilly, Stellan Skarsgård, Adria Arjona, Denise Gough and Kyle Soller. The executive producers are Kathleen Kennedy, Sanne Wohlenberg, Diego Luna and Michelle Rejwan. Tony Gilroy is the creator and showrunner.



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    Andor | Official Trailer | Disney+

    Star Wars
    Aug 1, 2022



    Watch the new trailer for #Andor, a Star Wars original series, streaming only on Disney+. Experience the three-episode premiere September 21.
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    I think they should make a movie from the imperial perspective as well instead of all this rebel stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    I think they should make a movie from the imperial perspective as well instead of all this rebel stuff.
    i would absolutely love that and have been wanting that for years. i would even take it in a video game. thats how battlefront 2's campaign was pitched, but spoiler thats not wtf it ends up as lol.

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    I think Disney will do great things with Star Wars, and I hope they turn it into as big of a phenomenom as the MCU because after playing Swtor, I think the universe has a ton of potential.
    now that the main story line is over Disney isn't contained to just finishing a story. they can create new things. here's to a decade of fresh Star Wars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargulf the Happy Husky View Post
    i would absolutely love that and have been wanting that for years. i would even take it in a video game. thats how battlefront 2's campaign was pitched, but spoiler thats not wtf it ends up as lol.
    Ever play TIE Fighter....old but defintely amazing and has imperial POV

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    Here’s the issue, narratively, that I foresee. And it’s the exact same problem that Solo faced.

    1) We know what Andor’s fate is. He gets incinerated by the Death Star. More to that point, we know whatever trials and tribulations he faces will not result in him dying in the series. This is the same thing we saw with Han and Chewie. We knew they were gonna make it out of Solo just fine. Contrast this with Mando; we don’t know his ultimate fate. Will he finally be able to be at peace? Will he die defending baby yoda? Who knows. There’s inherently more intrigue there.

    2) the character’s arc, as it were, was already concluded in Rogue One. Andor goes from a merciless rebel agent to one willing to give an air of clemency. So any arc he has is either going to have to carry him into being that merciless agent... meaning, again, we know his character arc, or will have him arc into a character that’s disjointed from where he is in rogue one. Again, we saw this same issue with solo. Han steps up to do the right thing in Solo, proving that he’s in it for more than the bounty. But at the beginning of A New Hope... he literally says he’s in it for the money. And Han was way more charismatic than Andor got to be.

    3) we’ve seen “rebels fighting the empire...” a lot, man. So much. Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Rogue One. Episodes 7, 8 and 9 are basically just a rehash of the “rebels vs empire” note as well. And you might say that the mandalorian also has the empire as an antagonist, but their dynamic as a fallen splinter cell is quite different. Mando is fighting them not for the “rebel cause,” but for a much more personal reason; a reason with actual intrigue as it drives the audience to wonder what the remnants of the empire want with baby yoda, and is doing so rom the perspective of a bounty hunter; a narrative we’ve not seen told cinematically in the Star Wars universe.

    So suffice to say... not tremendously interested. I wish Star Wars storytelling would go waaaaay back, where there’s ample space to develop new characters and plots, rather than trying to eek out narrative intrigue in the space between lines between episodes. Hell, the Obi Wan show would be taking place at around roughly the same time, and that sounds way more interesting.
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    I hope they can give us more of what we got with Mandalorian, but my fear is that the show was more of a gateway to their platform than presentation of their standards. At least if their movie productions are anything to go by.

    What comes to the premise of this show.. I really don't care about another rebel storyline, we've seen it so many times already in movies and TV. But then again if they can go deeper into lore am interested. So if am subbed to D+ at the time it releases I'll watch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    I think they should make a movie from the imperial perspective as well instead of all this rebel stuff.
    From the perspective of Thrawn? Yes, plz.


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    Thrawn on a big screen would over shadow all things star wars lol.

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    Well, K.K. says it's a SPY SERIES so could add more such suspense, and k2s0 being imp. droid could be very helful, and unlike other droids he's useful in a fight

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    Thrawn on a big screen would over shadow all things star wars lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    That is very controversial, especially right now, when people are experiencing a star wars movie worse than the prequels.
    So far, disney+ has had people not from K.K. team that made the movies, instead a different crew, guys like dave filoni from the animated shows, jon favreau from the mcu, had she had jar-jar-abrams, rian johnson or any other of her morons, the Mandalorian would have been a disaster..

    ..now it all hinges on what director/-s they get, they got a good writer I suppose, the team is forming n much is in pre-production under wraps, starts to film next year. Comes out in 2021, which is the same year K.K. contract runs out and hopefully we never have to deal with that incompetent wrecking machine ever again..
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    oh, a shadow upon the horizon, rian johnson said he hopes he gets chance to direct an episode or two for the mandalorian in season two...I hope nothing comes out of that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    That is very controversial, especially right now, when people are experiencing a star wars movie worse than the prequels.
    Ehh...

    I thought they did a great job with R1 and Mando. The Trilogy still did well for them financially but seems pretty DoA for most fans, that's entirely on their poor planning and an overall lack of quality control.

    Still I have faith they can make good products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Here’s the issue, narratively, that I foresee. And it’s the exact same problem that Solo faced.

    1) We know what Andor’s fate is. He gets incinerated by the Death Star. More to that point, we know whatever trials and tribulations he faces will not result in him dying in the series. This is the same thing we saw with Han and Chewie. We knew they were gonna make it out of Solo just fine. Contrast this with Mando; we don’t know his ultimate fate. Will he finally be able to be at peace? Will he die defending baby yoda? Who knows. There’s inherently more intrigue there.
    I don't see how this could be a problem. Cassian Andor is this show's protagonist. Of course he won't die! In most TV shows or movies, the hero is not expected to die. That's why it's always a surprise when he does. But Cassian Andor will be surrounded by other characters who or may not die. There will still be suspense. Hell, even in Star Wars we watched three movies and a whole TV show in which we knew that the protagonist will fall to the Dark Side of the Force and die in the redeeming act of saving his son.

    My problem is not that we know Cassian Andor dies, but that he dies before A New Hope, at the beginning of the Galactic Civil War. I would have liked to see what happened between A New Hope and Return of the Jedi, when the conflict was at its fullest.

    2) the character’s arc, as it were, was already concluded in Rogue One. Andor goes from a merciless rebel agent to one willing to give an air of clemency. So any arc he has is either going to have to carry him into being that merciless agent... meaning, again, we know his character arc, or will have him arc into a character that’s disjointed from where he is in rogue one. Again, we saw this same issue with solo. Han steps up to do the right thing in Solo, proving that he’s in it for more than the bounty. But at the beginning of A New Hope... he literally says he’s in it for the money. And Han was way more charismatic than Andor got to be.
    That could be a problem, but his character arc will show how he became the character we meet in Rogue One. Also, he will be surrounded by several other characters who could have interesting story arcs too.

    3) we’ve seen “rebels fighting the empire...” a lot, man. So much. Episodes 4, 5, and 6. Rogue One. Episodes 7, 8 and 9 are basically just a rehash of the “rebels vs empire” note as well. And you might say that the mandalorian also has the empire as an antagonist, but their dynamic as a fallen splinter cell is quite different. Mando is fighting them not for the “rebel cause,” but for a much more personal reason; a reason with actual intrigue as it drives the audience to wonder what the remnants of the empire want with baby yoda, and is doing so rom the perspective of a bounty hunter; a narrative we’ve not seen told cinematically in the Star Wars universe.

    So suffice to say... not tremendously interested. I wish Star Wars storytelling would go waaaaay back, where there’s ample space to develop new characters and plots, rather than trying to eek out narrative intrigue in the space between lines between episodes. Hell, the Obi Wan show would be taking place at around roughly the same time, and that sounds way more interesting.
    I agree that they could do much more with the Star Wars universe, go way back in the past, or way ahead in the future. However, Rebel/Republic vs Empire, Good vs Evil is what this franchise is known for, and you see it even in TOR. Besides, we have not seen a lot of the Alliance. Episodes 4 to 6 were centered around the personal stories of the main characters, with the Rebellion in the background (except in RotJ). We don't know much about the Alliance, its structures, how they fought the Empire. That's what I liked about Rogue One. For once we were seeing how it was going for the rank and file, without any Jedi theme.
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    I imagine this will be like Firefly. I mean they have Alan Tudyk after all. Maybe his spy character will transport people / cargo as a cover to make him more like Malcolm Reynolds.
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    If they can do it right, it should be interesting. One of the best storylines in Swtor was the Agent which was basically a Spy story in the Star Wars universe.

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    Yeah its hard to care when you know the main character's fate is to die in a different installment.

    Also out of all the things to make, why this? Who wanted this? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFromHR View Post
    I'm gonna say something controversial here:

    I think Disney will do great things with Star Wars, and I hope they turn it into as big of a phenomenom as the MCU because after playing Swtor, I think the universe has a ton of potential.
    I’d say Disney is already doing great things with it just none of those things are the main movies. Pretty much every comic series they have put out has been great, the mandalorian is great And the cartoons have done some cool stuff. Disney might have botched the main line movies but they are hittting it out of the park with extended material.

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    You do know that Disney is committed to no rated-R content on D+ right?

    Which isn't a bad thing from their perspective since it allows them to put any R-Rated touchstone movies onto Hulu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshingo View Post
    Also out of all the things to make, why this? Who wanted this? lol
    It was either this or a Boba Fett show, which is completely pointless now with the Mandalorian.

    They are still going forward with the obi-wan kenobi show.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shelly View Post
    You do know that Disney is committed to no rated-R content on D+ right?

    Which isn't a bad thing from their perspective since it allows them to put any R-Rated touchstone movies onto Hulu.
    oh...

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    People actually want a show about him? I've never heard anyone cite him as their favorite Star Wars character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    People actually want a show about him? I've never heard anyone cite him as their favorite Star Wars character.
    It's more that he shows a side of star wars behind the light sabers n stuff, we got a glimpse in Rogue One, some with Saw Gerrera in clone wars n rebels.

    ..but then again nobody asked for the Mandalorian either..

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