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    They get massive tax breaks, then Republicans whine that raising the minimum wage will put them out of business. Just... roflmao.

    If you get massive tax breaks which were SUPPOSED to stimulate the economy and give people better wages, then your business can't survive paying your workers a tiny bit more, you were a failing business anyway.
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    I don't care if he committed tax fraud. Scoring political victories and crushing the aspirations of your political opponents is more important than adhering to moral principles.
    Knadra finally just admitting Trumpkins care more about political victories than morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    They get massive tax breaks, then Republicans whine that raising the minimum wage will put them out of business. Just... roflmao.

    If you get massive tax breaks which were SUPPOSED to stimulate the economy and give people better wages, then your business can't survive paying your workers a tiny bit more, you were a failing business anyway.
    Right now people are leaving certain states because of high taxes. Particularly New Jersey and California as well as the tri-state area. Even a $15 minimum wage won't fix this. Everyone was predicting 2020 is when the economy crashes and it looks to be coming true. Just a matter of time before the stock market crashes as well. $15 is too little too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash The Stampede View Post
    Right now people are leaving certain states because of high taxes. Particularly New Jersey and California as well as the tri-state area. Even a $15 minimum wage won't fix this. Everyone was predicting 2020 is when the economy crashes and it looks to be coming true. Just a matter of time before the stock market crashes as well. $15 is too little too late.
    The people that are leaving CA are not the ones affected by the tax. High income and highly educated people, the ones most affected by the state's high income tax, are still moving in droves to CA. This interstate migration pattern—gaining large numbers of college graduates while losing large numbers of less educated adults—doesn’t happen anywhere else in the US. Over the past five years, California has attracted 162,000 more college graduates (adults with at least a bachelor’s degree) from other states than it has lost. Over the same period, the University of California (UC) awarded about 300,000 bachelor’s degrees at its nine undergraduate campuses. In other words, interstate migration provides California with half as many college graduates as the entire UC system.



    There are approximately 618,000 “millennial millionaires” — those with a net worth of over $1 million — in the United States. Almost half, 44%, of the millennial millionaires are concentrated in California. The state also has the highest percentage of millennial business owners in the US (23%). Per Coldwell Banker Global Luxury and Wealth Engine 2019 Report.


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    I suspect that this was posted earlier; American Consumers, Not China, Are Paying for Trump's Tariffs

    American businesses and consumers, not China, are bearing the financial brunt of President Trump’s trade war, new data shows, undermining the president’s assertion that the United States is “taxing the hell out of China.”

    “U.S. tariffs continue to be almost entirely borne by U.S. firms and consumers,” Mary Amiti, an economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, wrote in a National Bureau of Economic Research working paper. The other authors of the paper were David E. Weinstein of Columbia University and Stephen J. Redding of Princeton.

    Examining the fallout of tariffs in data through October 2019, the authors found that Americans had continued paying for the levies — which increased substantially over the course of the year. Their paper, which is an update on previous research, found that “approximately 100 percent” of import taxes fell on American buyers.
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    Yup, the evil libs are cutting the heart out of America one 2.99 an hour job at a time. Its a shame the owner couldn't sustain the normal house, the lake house, and the beach house over having to pay them a wage that at least allowed the employees to get a bus pass to get to work. It shows the owner had America in mind when he only could have 2 of those homes and rage quit over it.

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    Oh no, not my below-subsistence job! Whatever will I do?

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    hmm...Taco Bell will try paying some managers $100,000 a year — but In-N-Out Burger already pays managers $160,000

    The home of Doritos Locos Tacos says it’s going to test paying managers $100,000 a year at some company-owned locations in the Northeast and Midwest starting later this year. Taco YUM, -1.23% announced the plan Thursday and also said that as of Jan. 1, 2020, all of its company employees “can become eligible to receive” at least 24 hours of paid sick time per calendar year.

    Demos concluded that the wide pay disparity was a risk to the sector, in part because it could taint consumers’ perception of the industry, but also because low wages opened the sector up to legal risks such as class-action lawsuits filed by employees alleging wage theft. A separate 2013 study by University of California Berkeley economists found the fast-food industry has the largest share of workers who rely on public benefits, with 45% using government assistance.
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    all of its company employees “can become eligible to receive” at least 24 hours of paid sick time per calendar year.
    Should I cry? Or should I laugh?
    I can't describe the ridiculousness of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash The Stampede View Post
    Right now people are leaving certain states because of high taxes. Particularly New Jersey and California as well as the tri-state area. Even a $15 minimum wage won't fix this. Everyone was predicting 2020 is when the economy crashes and it looks to be coming true. Just a matter of time before the stock market crashes as well. $15 is too little too late.
    I mean I'm not going anywhere due to taxes, only place I'd go is Canada if anything.

    Culture is far more important to me than taxes.

    Like the post responding to you points out, the people moving probably aren't high income college educated earners. Taxes do not bother me, I lead a decent life, can afford most things I actually want (which isn't much my last big purchase was a bracelet I got essentially at cost and that was like 2 years ago, I could actually sell it for about 2x my cost) , and my taxes aren't too terribly high since quite a bit of it is capital gains right now, and my lifestyle is exceedingly cheap (relative to usual).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    I mean I'm not going anywhere due to taxes, only place I'd go is Canada if anything.

    Culture is far more important to me than taxes.
    I'm paying $10k a year in taxes, so I'll adapt to whatever culture other states have. Not that I'm moving but the thought has crossed my mind. The downside of other cheaper states is the distance between stores and other homes is rather large compared to some parts of NJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash The Stampede View Post
    I'm paying $10k a year in taxes, so I'll adapt to whatever culture other states have. Not that I'm moving but the thought has crossed my mind. The downside of other cheaper states is the distance between stores and other homes is rather large compared to some parts of NJ.
    I can't imagine anywhere I'd really want to move to in America other than California, which isn't very high on my list. There are things I would like to have.

    Diverse area, plenty of Latinos, but not purely Mexican that's not exactly diverse. Although I guess that means I can get a great variety of really good cemitas.

    I do not want to live in an area that's mostly just Americans with no ties to immigrants within 2 generations on either side. I've been in such places, and finding the most basic things proves difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Should I cry? Or should I laugh?
    I can't describe the ridiculousness of this.
    3 days is more than most people in America get.
    I have a fan. Seems he was permabanned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    3 days is more than most people in America get.
    So should I laugh or cry even more, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    3 days is more than most people in America get.
    HR must be the biggest department in any American company smh.

    Just to point out why this sounds so ridiculous in European ears: here in Germany we get 6 weeks paid leave when sick and up to 72 additional weeks at about 70% from health insurance. Despite that German economy isn't exactly poor.

    Personally I am average 2 days sick per year over my entire 30 years working now but I really like the thought of not having to look for another job and/or going bankrupt should I fall ill in any serious way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Should I cry? Or should I laugh?
    I can't describe the ridiculousness of this.
    as of 2020 our company doesn't give anyone below full time ANY pto off. you just get about one week of sick days and one-two weeks of uto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    as of 2020 our company doesn't give anyone below full time ANY pto off. you just get about one week of sick days and one-two weeks of uto.
    I know I am random internet anonimus, but I am truly sorry for you.
    Yes, I obviously am from Europe, we just don't really understand this :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I know I am random internet anonimus, but I am truly sorry for you.
    Yes, I obviously am from Europe, we just don't really understand this :/
    Since i moved to Australia i would never give up the generous time off i have gotten. This is one of the reasons why i looked to leave in the first place ( while keeping the door open should something happen here ). The American worker is firstly stupid beyond belief and they think they themselves will be wealthy the following week which allows them to cope? deal with the entire stupidity they deal with. I am also speaking in general not every American worker wants to be a slave to their corporation / business but the vast majority voted in favor of right to work legislation etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeezusisacasual View Post
    Since i moved to Australia i would never give up the generous time off i have gotten. This is one of the reasons why i looked to leave in the first place ( while keeping the door open should something happen here ). The American worker is firstly stupid beyond belief and they think they themselves will be wealthy the following week which allows them to cope? deal with the entire stupidity they deal with. I am also speaking in general not every American worker wants to be a slave to their corporation / business but the vast majority voted in favor of right to work legislation etc.
    I want to build a little on this. Most American Workers honestly believe the nonsense they've been fed since forever. That if they work hard, and don't take time off that they'll succeed. Many of them are convinced that $15/hour is some great wage that requires a college degree or the apprenticeship in a trade to achieve. They also believe that healthcare is something they should negotiate with their employer in lieu of hourly wages. In America people accumulate their sick time and are often punished for using it. Up until my wife unionized she was given 4 sick days per year but every time she used one she got an attendance occurrence. These occurrences accumulated with tardies and after three occurrences within the year would result in discipline. Yes given 4 sick days but would written up for attendance if three were used.

    However if you bring up any of this in a conversation with people who defend these practices they'll immediately claim that the person wanting higher wages or healthcare for the general population is somehow lazy and trying to exploit their respective companies. Because apparently being successful and wanting other people to at least have a decent wage and the ability to go to a doctor without having to be in an either or situation seems to be mutually exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    I want to build a little on this. Most American Workers honestly believe the nonsense they've been fed since forever. That if they work hard, and don't take time off that they'll succeed. Many of them are convinced that $15/hour is some great wage that requires a college degree or the apprenticeship in a trade to achieve. They also believe that healthcare is something they should negotiate with their employer in lieu of hourly wages. In America people accumulate their sick time and are often punished for using it. Up until my wife unionized she was given 4 sick days per year but every time she used one she got an attendance occurrence. These occurrences accumulated with tardies and after three occurrences within the year would result in discipline. Yes given 4 sick days but would written up for attendance if three were used.

    However if you bring up any of this in a conversation with people who defend these practices they'll immediately claim that the person wanting higher wages or healthcare for the general population is somehow lazy and trying to exploit their respective companies. Because apparently being successful and wanting other people to at least have a decent wage and the ability to go to a doctor without having to be in an either or situation seems to be mutually exclusive.
    People have a defeatist attitude in the states once they get facts. They say welp nothing can change lets switch this mode of conversation before i feel like a bigger moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeezusisacasual View Post
    Since i moved to Australia i would never give up the generous time off i have gotten. This is one of the reasons why i looked to leave in the first place ( while keeping the door open should something happen here ). The American worker is firstly stupid beyond belief and they think they themselves will be wealthy the following week which allows them to cope? deal with the entire stupidity they deal with. I am also speaking in general not every American worker wants to be a slave to their corporation / business but the vast majority voted in favor of right to work legislation etc.
    honestly if i could leave the u.s. at this point i probably would just so i could afford to go back to school and get a job that actually gives back to it's employees instead of the shitshow we have here. we have worker's rights even worse than some south american countries ffs. sorry south america. even community college is getting too expensive here. always wanted to be a accountant.
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